Episode thumbs don't appear in season folder

[GrimReaper 3308]

Missed that one, thanks. 

Actually this:

On 9/11/2022 at 9:10 PM, Happy2Play said:

Yes it looks like they go to /metadata/library as landscape images.  But same question what is a thumb/landscape at episode level?

C:\Users\Media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\programdata\metadata\library\aa\aab6cc0af721e0e99e7481b48742c448\landscape.jpg

 

We need that to be supported externally, i.e. 

50 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

implementing support for <episodefilename>-landscape.ext in addition to existing <episodefilename>-thumb.ext for episodes, but which would be assigned as thumb

 

[GrimReaper 3308]

*Merged topics*

[GrimReaper 3308]

Back on subject: those images are already tracked internally as such (landscapes) if added manually; just add support for importing them if available locally. 

[GrimReaper 3308]

Another solution would be to copy series thumb image as episode landscape (thumb-type image) by default by server itself at the time of import/artwork fetching/adding manually; that way noone would be the wiser, CW continuity would be preserved as same image (series thumb) would be presented, there'll be no apparent change for users not needing episode landscapes nor any additional options would be required. Episode thumb-type image is currently blank/unused, if user wants to assign image it needs to be added manually, makes no difference whether there's already an image there or there's none, as it is presently. 

[GrimReaper 3308]

After PM with H2P, it has become apparent that desired outcome (CW/NU rows improvement) might not be properly/understandably/clearly conveyed due to my limited proficiency in English; here's hoping that some visuals would. 

 

First, as there are several image types discussed here, some rules for image terminology should be established:

- Series thumb: thumb.ext/landscape.ext image, series thumb-type image

- Episode thumb: <episodefilename>-thumb.ext, episode primary-type image

- Episode landscape: no naming convention, episode thumb-type image 

 

Second, setup:

Series images

 

Episode thumbs (primary images):

 

Episode 1 images (landscape added manually, copy of series thumb) 

 

Episode 2 has primary image only. 

 

Third, example:

(Episode 2 - no episode landscape, default/current Emby behavior) 

vs. 

(Episode 1 - episode landscape (thumb-type image) available). 

 

Fourth, summary

So, same image (series thumb) with/sans treatment. If series thumb was copied as episode landscape, noone would see any difference - except CA users; there will be absolutely no change for average user compared to current presentation except making use of CoverArt overlays/treatment for Premiere users that opt for it. Not to mention sating that consistency urge and scratching that OCD itch. 

[crusher11 854]

If you set episode fanart, that gets used in CW/NU. 

[GrimReaper 3308]

I'm not observing same behavior, just changed episode backdrop, my CW/NU rows still present series thumb. Even if it were, fanarts are not CA overlayed/treated, so not sure how does it relate to the desired outcome described above? 

[crusher11 854]

8 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

I'm not observing same behavior, just changed episode backdrop, my CW/NU rows still present series thumb. Even if it were, fanarts are not CA overlayed/treated, so not sure how does it relate to the desired outcome described above? 

I don't have any CoverArt treatments for TV so had never noticed whether it worked for that or not, but I have custom thumb/fanart images for my sports content and I see game-specific images in CW/NU. 

[GrimReaper 3308]

Guess I'll have to do it visually again:

22 hours ago, crusher11 said:

If you set episode fanart, that gets used in CW/NU. 

 

18 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

I'm not observing same behavior, just changed episode backdrop, my CW/NU rows still present series thumb.

If I assign fanart image to an episode (deliberately added other TV show image for distinction), all I get is changed episode backdrop, as expected - CW row retains true series thumb. 

 

If I add same image as episode landscape, CW row uses that image - and that's what I'm after. 

 

Edit: Maybe we don't have all of the same image types present on both series and episode levels (just as it is falling back to series fanart if no series thumb by default), so your installation is falling back to episode fanart. But with full sets of images concerned available on both levels, for me it is not doing so. 

For reference, this is original series fanart:

This is same episode with inherited series fanart, before adding custom image:

And this is series artwork:

Edited April 15, 2023 by GrimReaper
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[crusher11 854]

I don't have series thumbs, does that make the difference? 

[GrimReaper 3308]

It does. After testing all combinations of images at series/episode levels, CW/NU rows get episode image in following fallback order:

1. Episode landscape

2. Series thumb

3. Episode fanart

4. Series fanart

5. Episode thumb (primary-type image) 

6. Series poster 

As 1. and 3. are never present by default - upon import/identify/image fetching, unless assigned manually - basically default behavior is 2->4->5->6, which are scraped automatically (if available). Lack of any of those (or addition of other types) causes behavior to be adjusted accordingly. 

[Riddler84 38]

On 4/13/2023 at 5:48 AM, Luke said:

You're saying you prefer to see the episode images in continue watching? What about an option for that?

I'd say an option would be pretty nice and strongly needed. I'd much prefer episode thumbs instead of the generic series thumb.

[GrimReaper 3308]

@LukeHow about supporting import/exposing episode landscapes as they're already tracked as such in the db?

On 4/13/2023 at 7:15 AM, GrimReaper said:

Actually this:

On 9/12/2022 at 2:10 AM, Happy2Play said:

Yes it looks like they go to /metadata/library as landscape images.  But same question what is a thumb/landscape at episode level?

C:\Users\Media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\programdata\metadata\library\aa\aab6cc0af721e0e99e7481b48742c448\landscape.jpg

 

We need that to be supported externally, i.e. 

On 4/13/2023 at 6:24 AM, GrimReaper said:

implementing support for <episodefilename>-landscape.ext in addition to existing <episodefilename>-thumb.ext for episodes, but which would be assigned as thumb

 

On 4/13/2023 at 7:27 AM, GrimReaper said:

Back on subject: those images are already tracked internally as such (landscapes) if added manually; just add support for importing them if available locally. 

Or an option to copy series thumb as episode landscape? 

 

Edited May 18, 2023 by GrimReaper

[Luke 37097]

It's certainly possible, yes.

[gbrock 2]

On 4/14/2023 at 12:15 AM, crusher11 said:

If you set episode fanart, that gets used in CW/NU. 

This works. Thank you sir!