Cinema Intros: Block multiple trailers from the same movie.

[Bigmack3000 96]

I briefly mentioned this in a feature request, but it seems more like a glitch.

Can a block be added so that multiple trailers of the same movie don't play before a movie? 

Edited May 4, 2022 by GrimReaper
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[GrimReaper 4141]

You'll need to be more specific, playing through what? Cinema Intros? Vantage Point? How does your setup look like? 

[Happy2Play 9441]

Yes method is needed.  But clicking the Trailer button will play all urls received from TMDB.

[Bigmack3000 96]

Sorry, yes the Cinema Intros plugin.  I don't use online trailers only local ones.  

[GrimReaper 4141]

*Moved*

[Cheesegeezer 3102]

On 05/05/2022 at 00:29, GrimReaper said:

*Moved*

Where?

[GrimReaper 4141]

8 minutes ago, Cheesegeezer said:

Where?

To Plugins forum subsection, from General/Windows, once clarified what does OP refer to. 

[Bigmack3000 96]

Was anyone able to look into this?

[Luke 40079]

Can you please go over an example? Thanks.

[Bigmack3000 96]

6 minutes ago, Luke said:

Can you please go over an example? Thanks.

I'm attaching logs here.

There's two main issues.  I don't know how, but a film seems to attach itself to certain trailers, and then every time that movie is played the same trailers play with it.  The second is that often two trailers from the same film will play.  

You'll see in the logs, this is how I knew to immediately play "Mamma Mia", and show that two trailers from "scott pilgrim" would play before it.  Something is a bit off with the randomizer.

[Luke 40079]

Do you have multiple trailers for scott pilgrim?

[Bigmack3000 96]

Yea, I have multiple trailers for a lot of films.  Whatever comes with the blurays/dvds.

[Bigmack3000 96]

On 7/4/2022 at 3:52 PM, Luke said:

Do you have multiple trailers for scott pilgrim?

Attaching another instance of this happening. Played "Out of the Blue" and two trailers for "Out of the Blue" played before the movie.  

A block against a trailer for the same film playing before that film would be so nice.

embyserver (1).txt

[Luke 40079]

OK yes I see a change we can make to address this. Thanks.

[Bigmack3000 96]

On 10/10/2022 at 2:54 PM, Luke said:

OK yes I see a change we can make to address this. Thanks.

Any update on when this will be fixed?  it's been awhile.

[Luke 40079]

3 hours ago, Bigmack3000 said:

Any update on when this will be fixed?  it's been awhile.

It should already be. Can we please look at a specific example? thanks.

[Bigmack3000 96]

3 hours ago, Luke said:

It should already be. Can we please look at a specific example? thanks.

Hey, I attached logs here.  The one to look for is from yesterday. When playing "Dune", two trailers for the same film, "Superman Returns", played back to back.  

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[Luke 40079]

On 2/29/2024 at 8:34 PM, Bigmack3000 said:

Hey, I attached logs here.  The one to look for is from yesterday. When playing "Dune", two trailers for the same film, "Superman Returns", played back to back.  

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Do you know what time that was? The log has over 300 mentions of dune and 170 mentions of superman. This is due to the library scanning. Or can you restart the server and reproduce the problem again? Thanks.

[Bigmack3000 96]

9 hours ago, Luke said:

Do you know what time that was? The log has over 300 mentions of dune and 170 mentions of superman. This is due to the library scanning. Or can you restart the server and reproduce the problem again? Thanks.

Just went back and checked.  February 28th at 9:15 pm.

[Luke 40079]

Were these your own local trailer files?

[Bigmack3000 96]

4 hours ago, Luke said:

Were these your own local trailer files?

Yea, all the trailers I use are local.

But they're all properly organized within each film.

 

 

Edited March 8, 2024 by Bigmack3000

[Luke 40079]

Can you reproduce this with a brand new movie?

[Bigmack3000 96]

7 minutes ago, Luke said:

Can you reproduce this with a brand new movie?

I'll post again when it happens, but I've posted multiple examples over the years.  Is there anything specific you're looking for?

[Bigmack3000 96]

51 minutes ago, Luke said:

Can you reproduce this with a brand new movie?

Ok, found it again.  Logs attached. 

Played Avatar 2. Two trailers for the Abyss played.  Stopped. played Avatar 2 again.  Two trailers for the Abyss played again.

Overall, trailers just do not appear to be remotely randomized enough.  And, there looks to be far too many restrictions on what trailers will player before a film.  

If you watch a Spiderman film, two Spiderman film trailers will play.  If you watch an X-Men film, two X-Men trailers will play, etc.  

Even with other genres, it tries to match too many similarities with the film you are currently watching.  The randomizer needs room to breathe.  It would be fine if a trailer for The Godfather came up before watching a documentary.

 

embyserver (1).txt

[Bigmack3000 96]

I feel like after the first trailer plays it should go something like:

1. Do Not play trailer from same film.

2. Find trailer from same genre.

if not found,

3. Find trailer from same decade.

if not found,

4. Find trailer with same rating. (PG, R, etc)

if not found,

5. Find trailer not rated higher than current film. (ex. if film is rated PG-13.  find a trailer rated PG or PG-13, not R)

if still not found,

6. skip additional trailers.

 

That way if emby always wants there to be a running theme with trailers, the option is there.  But, if a theme can't be found, the pool for other trailers keeps widening.  That's part of the fun of trailers.  To find something you weren't expecting to watch.

Edited March 11, 2024 by Bigmack3000