Music NFO & Artwork

[koopa8840 24]

Emby version 4.6.4.0

Emby is not saving nfo files within the audio file folder nor is it reading nfo files. It works for video files, but not audio. The library is set as Music.

Add: It is also not saving images in the file's folder.

Edited July 13, 2021 by koopa8840

[Luke 42079]

Hi, please see this:

 

[koopa8840 24]

3 hours ago, Luke said:

Hi, please see this:

 

I deleted the library and re-added it. The nfo files are being created, however the artwork is not being saved within the media folder. Also, Emby is not reading any manual edits to the nfo files; open in notepad and edit.  It is, also, not reading existing nfo files; move folder, with nfo file, into library folder and rescan/refresh nothing is updated.

[Happy2Play 9781]

That is the grey area as albums are create via embedded tags so album.nfo is currently not read only written.  What are you changing in the nfo?  As it should be changed on the tracks.  This is only relavent to Music and probably Audiobook libraries.

[koopa8840 24]

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

That is the grey area as albums are create via embedded tags so album.nfo is currently not read only written.  What are you changing in the nfo?  As it should be changed on the tracks.  This is only relavent to Music and probably Audiobook libraries.

I have music albums, provided by an online service, with direct linking. The service provides downloadable playlists, in varies formats, that provides the links for each track. Emby doesn't support these type of m3u playlists. I created a script to break the m3u into individual strm files for the tracks; (artist\(year) album]\track## - title.strm). Since these files contain no tags, I have to edit all the information through the metadata manager and it is very time consuming. I made a script that creates a nfo file with the info I want, but Emby is not importing the nfo info.

As far as the artwork, I found an old post that mentioned the option was stopped. So why is the option to "save artwork into media folders" still available? Since the artwork is being saved in artist_name-mb_id, why is there an option to "hide artwork" when the images are the only files in the folder? Shouldn't it just be "save metadata as hidden file", since it is saved in the media folder?

[Happy2Play 9781]

1 minute ago, koopa8840 said:

So why is the option to "save artwork into media folders" still available?

Works just fine for me with the perfect folder structure and option set to perfect artist/album/track.  So I get artist info in Artist level folder and Album in that level.

But manually editing album.nfo is a different story.

 

[koopa8840 24]

1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

Works just fine for me with the perfect folder structure and option set to perfect artist/album/track.  So I get artist info in Artist level folder and Album in that level.

But manually editing album.nfo is a different story.

 

Artwork seems to be saved in the media folder after I deleted all the Music-related folder in the metadata folder. Hopefully, in the near future, Emby will read nfo files.

[koopa8840 24]

I found the error in "saving images to media folders". Any artist starting with "The", such as "The Offspring", and it's folder is named "Offspring, The", the images are not being saved in the media folder but in the Emby\programdata\metadata\musicartists folder.

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by koopa8840

[Happy2Play 9781]

@Lukewill have to comment as all my folder and embedded naming match.

[Luke 42079]

35 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

I found the error in "saving images to media folders". Any artist starting with "The", such as "The Offspring", and it's folder is named "Offspring, The", the images are not being saved in the media folder but in the Emby\programdata\metadata\musicartists folder.

 

The name of the folder has to match the name of the artist in the embedded metadata of the audio file. Otherwise, there's no way for Emby to know that the folder belongs to that artist.

[koopa8840 24]

This setting should state that folder and metadata must match. My folder structure is perfectly organized, since proper organization "The" is not used when organizing by Artist names.

[Happy2Play 9781]

5 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

since proper organization "The" is not used when organizing by Artist names.

Do to Emby having sort word removal, otherwise everything with The would be in "T".  So this coding allows that specific sorting.

  <SortRemoveWords>
    <string>the</string>
    <string>a</string>
    <string>an</string>
  </SortRemoveWords>

But sorting has nothing to do with with folder name and Artist matching.

Edited July 14, 2021 by Happy2Play

[nmkaufman 50]

22 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

album.nfo is currently not read only written

Is there actually any reason to save album.nfo externally, then?

I've been doing it, assuming it served some purpose, but I'd rather not have the clutter TBH.

Edited July 14, 2021 by nmkaufman

[koopa8840 24]

24 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Do to Emby having sort word removal, otherwise everything with The would be in "T".  So this coding allows that specific sorting.

  <SortRemoveWords>
    <string>the</string>
    <string>a</string>
    <string>an</string>
  </SortRemoveWords>

But sorting has nothing to do with with folder name and Artist matching.

It needs to be stated clearer that only the artwork is not saved in the media folder unless the metadata, Artist, matches the folder name. Using the wording, "perfectly organized" is misleading, since Offspring, The\Album, is perfect, whereas The Offspring\Album is not. Emby should not automatically be sort removing any words, unless the user choose so, since there are some that should not be altered; such as Dexter Freebish's A Life of Saturdays or the band A Day to Remember. That's all. 

[Happy2Play 9781]

17 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

since Offspring, The\Album, is perfect, whereas The Offspring\Album is not.

Is that not subjective as I can not stand changing proper naming as to the me these will never be the same.

[Happy2Play 9781]

1 hour ago, nmkaufman said:

Is there actually any reason to save album.nfo externally, then?

I've been doing it, assuming it served some purpose, but I'd rather not have the clutter TBH.

Luke has mentioned bring back reading as there are features that only exist in the nfo like Overview.  Now if everything could be self contained in the tracks then sure album.nfo could be obsolete.

Edited July 14, 2021 by Happy2Play

[koopa8840 24]

49 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Is that not subjective as I can not stand changing proper naming as to the me these will never be the same.

No. The Offspring and Offspring, The are the same band, but the latter is used for proper sorting....organization. If a user is using the setting of "perfectly organized into Artist\Album folders", then Emby should know that "Offspring, The" is the Artist. Afterall, Emby has to use the folder path to access the metadata, to obtain the proper images, therefore there is no reason why that folder path is not used for "save artwork in media folder". Now if "perfectly organized" is meant to imply the Artist tag and Folder name match, then that is different and needs to be clarified.

[roaku 842]

7 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

No. The Offspring and Offspring, The are the same band, but the latter is used for proper sorting....organization. If a user is using the setting of "perfectly organized into Artist\Album folders", then Emby should know that "Offspring, The" is the Artist. Afterall, Emby has to use the folder path to access the metadata, to obtain the proper images, therefore there is no reason why that folder path is not used for "save artwork in media folder". Now if "perfectly organized" is meant to imply the Artist tag and Folder name match, then that is different and needs to be clarified.

The name of the artist is the name of the artist.

[Happy2Play 9781]

Sure as all tabs are created of the embedded tags so I would assume your tags are not the same as your Folder naming scheme.  But I guess Luke could update the note to reflect Tag must match folder to be considered Perfect so metadata/images can be saved into folder structure.

@cayarsthe KB would have to reflect this also.

But to me this "The Offspring" embedded tag Artist will never equal "Offspring, The" Artist folder structure.  But "Offspring, The" embedded tag would.

 

[Happy2Play 9781]

I would not consider "A Tribe Called Quest" to equal "Tribe Called Quest, A", one is the true Artist and other is ARTISTSORT.

 

 

[Luke 42079]

15 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

I would not consider "A Tribe Called Quest" to equal "Tribe Called Quest, A", one is the true Artist and other is ARTISTSORT.

 

 

Exactly.

[koopa8840 24]

So if Artist folder name and Artist metadata field have to match in order for artwork to be saved in media folder, does this also apply to Album? Emby is saving  to my Album folders and they do not match the Album metadata field. Meh. It doesn't matter. After all, some people think "sort" and "organized" don't relate to each other. If you prefer to organize, also known as SORT, by "The", then more power to you. I prefer to organize, or SORT, the proper way. I'll figure out myself, just as I did with my Roku issue, after being told by support to, basically, convert my entire lossless collection to a lossy format.

[Luke 42079]

6 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

So if Artist folder name and Artist metadata field have to match in order for artwork to be saved in media folder, does this also apply to Album? Emby is saving  to my Album folders and they do not match the Album metadata field. Meh. It doesn't matter. After all, some people think "sort" and "organized" don't relate to each other. If you prefer to organize, also known as SORT, by "The", then more power to you. I prefer to organize, or SORT, the proper way. I'll figure out myself, just as I did with my Roku issue, after being told by support to, basically, convert my entire lossless collection to a lossy format.

No, once you specify the music folder organization, the server will assume that the album folder of any given track is the folder that it's located in. A song (obviously) can only belong to one album, so it's easier to locate the album folder of an audio file than it is the artist folder.