Music: Where is the year for an album coming from?

[koopa8840 24]

 

30 minutes ago, mbarylski said:

I don't think it works that way anymore because most fields are tag driven. Adding the metadata to the tags makes it permanent and available to other apps like Plex. 

At this point we need a response from Luke. @Luke Is Emby reading WM/Year? If not, it seems like it needs to be added unless there's some other way to get the year added in metadata for an album that doesn't exist in MusicBrainz. 

That said, i'm not even getting years for albums that ARE in MusicBrainz. I added the MusicBrainz Album ID for this one yesterday and it's still not showing a year.

 

Do you have a metadata downloader enabled in the library settings? As you can see, I have no Year or Date set via the tag, but I do have the MB tags and Emby's fetchers enabled.

[Vicpa 611]

Must be an issue with wma (?)

This album is not on MB and I just updated it and it displays in emby correctly. flac file

 

sorry I don't have any other suggestions

[MBSki 1114]

11 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

 

Do you have a metadata downloader enabled in the library settings? As you can see, I have no Year or Date set via the tag, but I do have the MB tags and Emby's fetchers enabled.

Yep, I have them set. It's weird. Some work, some don't. I just can't figure out why some don't work. I'll delete the year and see if that works.

[MBSki 1114]

@koopa8840 No luck. Deleting the year didn't help. I have no idea why some work and some don't.

@Luke We need your assistance.

[MBSki 1114]

The only thing I'm seeing with the ones that don't work are the Album title's have punctuation. 

• Harry Belafonte - All Time Greatest Hits, Volume 1
  • Includes a comma
• Various Artists - Are You Hip-Hop's Biggest Fan?
  • Question mark at the end of title that can't be added in mp3Tag

 So far that's all I've found. Still appears to be an issue with wma though.

[MBSki 1114]

Here's another one with punctuation that I can't get to load the year. @Luke In the past I've had to change the actual folder name to exactly match the album in order for metadata to populate correctly. Unfortunately, I can't add some punctuation to folder names in Windows. Is that why these aren't loading? Is Emby trying to match exactly WITH punctuation?

[MBSki 1114]

@Luke @cayars What do you need to provide some feedback on the issue here? 

[Carlo 4560]

These are wma files correct?  Is so could you supply an album or two for testing?  I've got no wma music files

[MBSki 1114]

2 minutes ago, cayars said:

These are wma files correct?  Is so could you supply an album or two for testing?  I've got no wma music files

Sure, I'll send you a PM. BUT, it's quite possible it'll work for you if you load it for the first time. That's why I often have to delete my library and start over. Some things just won't refresh unless I recreate the entire library. 

[FrostByte 5392]

4 hours ago, mbarylski said:

Sure, I'll send you a PM. BUT, it's quite possible it'll work for you if you load it for the first time. That's why I often have to delete my library and start over. Some things just won't refresh unless I recreate the entire library. 

Couldn't you accomplish the same be moving the album out of your library, running a scan to remove it from your db and then after it's gone re-add the album folder to your library and scan again.  I had to do this with several albums of mine because it wouldn't let me rename the album from something like "Album" to "Album (HDtracks)".  For some reason when it's in the db you can't change certain metadata fields.

[MBSki 1114]

1 minute ago, FrostByte said:

Couldn't you accomplish the same be moving the album out of your library, running a scan to remove it from your db and then after it's gone re-add the album folder to your library and scan again.  I had to do this with several albums of mine because it wouldn't let me rename the album from something like "Album" to "Album (HDtracks)".  For some reason when it's in the db you can't change certain metadata fields.

Maybe...I can try that. I've got more than 50 that are having an issue though so preferably I'd like to see it fixed. I'll try it at least to see if wma's and punctuation are an issue. I would think Luke could tell us that pretty easily though since he knows how it's coded.

[koopa8840 24]

Use DATE and it should work.

Edited July 14, 2021 by koopa8840

[MBSki 1114]

3 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

Use DATE and it should work.

I already tried that and it doesn't work.

[koopa8840 24]

 

1 hour ago, mbarylski said:

I already tried that and it doesn't work.

What program did you use? In Picard, under the Tag column, Date is actually WM/Year. I tried adding a DATE tag and Picard wouldn't accept it. However, in Mp3Tag, I added a DATE tag, gave it a date, refresh Emby and the year appears.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by koopa8840

[MBSki 1114]

Yea, I did the same thing and it didn't work. Are your files wma?

[Happy2Play 9780]

Using the Date method works for me also.  Just took a couple minutes for everything to update after I Refreshed the Album.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Changed Date from 2011 to 2000 and Refreshed Album.  Processed in mp3tag to get other ids but you can see the Date field being used.

But in the end @Lukeneeds to comment on WM/Year.  Ideally I would think this needs to be added.  But there does appear to be a workaround adding an addition tag Date.

[MBSki 1114]

21 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Using the Date method works for me also.  Just took a couple minutes for everything to update after I Refreshed the Album.

Hmmm, maybe I didn't wait long enough. I'll try again.

[koopa8840 24]

32 minutes ago, mbarylski said:

Yea, I did the same thing and it didn't work. Are your files wma?

Yes. If you look in my screenshots, you will see "codec = Windows Media Audio" and "D:\test.wma"

 

8 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Changed Date from 2011 to 2000 and Refreshed Album.  Processed in mp3tag to get other ids but you can see the Date field being used.

But in the end @Lukeneeds to comment on WM/Year.  Ideally I would think this needs to be added.  But there does appear to be a workaround adding an addition tag Date.

I agree. 

[MBSki 1114]

3 minutes ago, koopa8840 said:

Yes. If you look in my screenshots, you will see "codec = Windows Media Audio" and "D:\test.wma"

I agree. 

I'm trying it again now. Waiting...waiting... 

[MBSki 1114]

And there it is!! @koopa8840 You're right! Son of a gun.

Man, what a pain though. How is any user going to figure that out. @Luke Please respond. Looks like there's a gap in the metadata being pulled for wma's. Please fix.

[Happy2Play 9780]

As mentioned Picard Date=Year / WM/Year and mp3Tag Date is its own DATE field.

[MBSki 1114]

On 7/13/2021 at 10:55 PM, Happy2Play said:

As mentioned Picard Date=Year / WM/Year and mp3Tag Date is its own DATE field.

So, IMO Emby still needs to pull WM/Year. Do you agree? 

[MBSki 1114]

On 7/13/2021 at 10:55 PM, Happy2Play said:

As mentioned Picard Date=Year / WM/Year and mp3Tag Date is its own DATE field.

Is this just for wma's or for any format?

[Vicpa 611]

3 hours ago, mbarylski said:

Is this just for wma's or for any format?

Just wma's.