Question/issue playing movies with Dolby Vision

[jsc1205 51]

@cayars Set everything up including the steps on the Shield mounting the NAS  When I play a movie back in Emby, looking at the stats for nerds, under Stream Type its saying "HTTP" not "File" as in the instructions example.  

Any ideas?

[Carlo 4560]

It should say File.

Can you get a screen shot of your setup on the Shield TV itself?

[jsc1205 51]

Just now, cayars said:

It should say File.

Can you get a screen shot of your setup on the Shield TV itself?

Sure!  What exactly do you need to see on the Shield?

[Carlo 4560]

The Android TV Storage Attachment screens you setup to match the Synology shares.

[jsc1205 51]

Here you go

[jsc1205 51]

@cayarsAny thoughts of why Emby is not showing "file"?  I'm wondering if it has something to do with a setting or privilege's in DSM on the synology 

[rbjtech 5284]

I'm not familiar with how your NAS presents it's shares - but looking at your screen shots from above - I would imagine they are presented as \\ROUSSEAUXNAS\Movies for example.  But in your optional path - you have an additional 'volume' folder ?  Try removing that to see if you get direct File Access ?

If you have a PC etc - typing the UNC share name 'should' bring up all the network files ..  ie type \\ROUSSEAUXNAS\Movies

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by rbjtech

[jsc1205 51]

2 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

I'm not familiar with how your NAS presents it's shares - but looking at your screen shots from above - I would imagine they are presented as \\ROUSSEAUXNAS\Movies for example.  But in your optional path - you have an additional 'volume' folder ?  Try removing that to see if you get direct File Access ?

On the synology nas each drive is labeled as a "volume" or if you have an external USB drive connected to the NAS it labels it as "usbshare".  

When initially setting up the library in Emby all the folders are shown as "/volume1/Movies" etc etc in Emby.  So when adding the optional path I assumed that "volume" would be included in the path.

I will try removing "volume" and play a movie back through Emby to see if the stream shows "File" and report back.  Thanks for the help

[rbjtech 5284]

I believe you are confusing local storage with network shares - the physical drive/volume/disk/partition (whatever you want to call it) is not used on a UNC share name - you should just need the machine name and the share name

So as an example on my system (a windows box), all my storage is directly attached - so I could use drive letters (disks/volumes) but I use the UNC 'share' name instead to make it portable - the 'grey' reference underneath - is the same UNC share but this time as an 'optional' item - note the CAPS file server name.  THIS is what my Shield uses to get a direct File playback.

I hope this helps .. 

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by rbjtech

[jsc1205 51]

Thanks and will take a look and let you know.

[jsc1205 51]

@cayars and @rbjtech you guys are awesome!  I took "volume" out of the path and its now working correctly and showing "file" as Stream Type.  Thanks again for taking the time to help me get this straightened out!

[Carlo 4560]

Awesome. I was just going to show my options vs synology shares but you got it figured out with @rbjtech's help.

[Blitzz 0]

On 9/6/2021 at 8:15, rbjtech said:

Ejecuto una configuración similar: Shield Pro> Denon> LG CX8 y desde que pasé a DV/MKV de una sola capa o convertí una capa doble a una sola a través de MakeMKV, no he tenido ningún problema para reproducir DV.

Una cosa a tener en cuenta es que uso 'Archivo directo' a través del escudo, por lo que puede influir en el resultado aquí. Mi sistema, en muy raras ocasiones, vuelve a HTTP por alguna razón, pero nunca he tenido DV recurriendo a HDR.

¿Qué contenedor son los archivos DV? ¿Son MP4 o MKV y cómo se crearon? (MediaInfo le dará los detalles)

 

Please help me, how do I remove double layer to a single layer?, I have movies in mkv file with dolby vision profile 7 but when I play it it uses HDR10, how do I make it play dv?

[rbjtech 5284]

5 hours ago, Blitzz said:

Please help me, how do I remove double layer to a single layer?, I have movies in mkv file with dolby vision profile 7 but when I play it it uses HDR10, how do I make it play dv?

Run the MKV back though MakeMKV - it will merge the double layer Video track into a single layer that will trigger DV on the Shield.

Quote

HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

Once complete - then in MediaInfo, you'll see a single layer with the above description.  ie a DV profile 7 or HDR10 if your client does not play DV.

[Blitzz 0]

Hace 2 horas, rbjtech dijo:

Vuelva a ejecutar MKV a través de MakeMKV : fusionará la pista de video de doble capa en una sola capa que activará DV en el escudo.

Una vez completado, en MediaInfo, verá una sola capa con la descripción anterior. es decir, un perfil DV 7 o HDR10 si su cliente no reproduce DV.

At the end of the process I should get just this, right? HDR Format: Dolby Vision Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray Compliant / SMPTE ST 2086

Edited March 19, 2022 by Blitzz

[rbjtech 5284]

7 minutes ago, Blitzz said:

At the end of the process I should get just this, right? HDR Format: Dolby Vision Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray Compliant / SMPTE ST 2086

looks ok - does it not play correctly ?

[Blitzz 0]

Hace 57 minutos, rbjtech dijo:

se ve bien, ¿no se reproduce correctamente?

I already added the mkv file to makemkv, but what option do I have to give it to transform it into 1 layer?

[Blitzz 0]

1 hour ago, rbjtech said:

se ve bien, ¿no se reproduce correctamente?

I already have a layer and I just tried it and it continues to play only hdr10

[rbjtech 5284]

If it has the correct DV layer - then MakeMKV will say so in the log when it scans the media - it will be Automatic.  

Can you post a mediainfo output of the ORIGINAL file in question ?   A dual layer media will have TWO Video tracks - one at 4K and a second at 1080p (the DV layer).

If you do not have these two layers, then it is likely not DV profile 7 (UHD Disk) media.

Edited March 19, 2022 by rbjtech

[Blitzz 0]

6 hours ago, rbjtech said:

Si tiene la capa DV correcta, entonces MakeMKV lo dirá en el registro cuando escanee los medios, será automático.  

¿Puede publicar una salida de mediainfo del archivo ORIGINAL en cuestión? Un medio de doble capa tendrá DOS pistas de video: una en 4K y una segunda en 1080p (la capa DV).

Si no tiene estas dos capas, es probable que no sea un medio DV perfil 7 (disco UHD).

This is what I get.

[FrostByte 5392]

Your media info looks fine and should be good to play.

There is some confusion in here about layers and tracks/pids though.  Profile 7 is not single layer DV profile.  It's two layers whether it's dual track or single track.  That standard is set by Dolby.

Makemkv does not/cannot make a single layer profile 7 mkv from UHD.  It makes a single track (or pid) dual layer mkv file.  It does this by taking both the 1080p EL track and the 2160p BL track and putting them both in one pid to fool streaming devices which can't handle dual track (pid) dual layer video files.  It still has two layers though, a base layer and an enhanced layer.   Nothing is lost and you can still revert the whole process to create the original UHD folder format with two tracks.

If you look at the mediainfo for profile 7, you see BL = base layer (+) EL = enhanced layer.  That's still two layers   You can also extract the new hevc and then demux it.  You will then see your two original hevc layers which were hidden in the one pid.

 

As Mike the developer of Makemkv says:

Dolby Vision and 1.15.1 - www.makemkv.com

 

Profile 8.1 is a single layer profile, HDR10 BL (+) RPU

Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

 

[rbjtech 5284]

7 hours ago, FrostByte said:

Your media info looks fine and should be good to play.

There is some confusion in here about layers and tracks/pids though.  Profile 7 is not single layer DV profile.  It's two layers whether it's dual track or single track.  That standard is set by Dolby.

Makemkv does not/cannot make a single layer profile 7 mkv from UHD.  It makes a single track (or pid) dual layer mkv file.  It does this by taking both the 1080p EL track and the 2160p BL track and putting them both in one pid to fool streaming devices which can't handle dual track (pid) dual layer video files.  It still has two layers though, a base layer and an enhanced layer.   Nothing is lost and you can still revert the whole process to create the original UHD folder format with two tracks.

If you look at the mediainfo for profile 7, you see BL = base layer (+) EL = enhanced layer.  That's still two layers   You can also extract the new hevc and then demux it.  You will then see your two original hevc layers which were hidden in the one pid.

 

As Mike the developer of Makemkv says:

Dolby Vision and 1.15.1 - www.makemkv.com

 

Profile 8.1 is a single layer profile, HDR10 BL (+) RPU

Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

 

Hi @FrostByte

No confusion here - I'm referring to Tracks, not layers ..

17 hours ago, rbjtech said:

  A dual layer media will have TWO Video tracks - one at 4K and a second at 1080p (the DV layer).

I asked the OP to post the ORIGINAL mediainfo - for a UHD DV profile 7 - this will show 2 video tracks.  In the example posted - this is ALREADY a DV single track conversion - thus there is zero point trying to pass it though MakeMKV again - that is the point I was making

Thye above media should play as DV 'as is' - there is nothing more to do to it.  If it does not play, then it's either an incorrect client setting or the track has not been created properly - neither have anything to do with Emby as we known Emby can play Profile 7 DV Remux's on the Shield just fine. 

[Luke 42077]

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