Thumbnail generation - Default image for entry

[bigembyfan 63]

Hi,

I have a couple of sports related libraries with matches I've recorded from TV, when setting them up in libraries I have the library set to use 'Thumbnail Images' (Generate video preview thumbnails = 'as a scheduled task and when media is added'), I can see this works great in the 'Chapters' part of an entry (ie a match) but the screenshots aren't used for the entry itself, instead the main image for the top level item is used (see screenshot attached). The absolute ideal would be to be able to select one of the chapter images as the main image for the entry - is this possible at all? Should I be seeing one of those thumbnails in place for the entry / match?

I could obviously do this all manually by navigating to the generated images and adding the one I want for each match via the metadata image selection but this would be a bit of a slog so hopefully there's an easier way!

Thanks

Edited May 9, 2021 by bigembyfan

[Luke 42080]

Hi, it's not possible but it idea has come up before. For now you'd have to set one manually as the main image.

[bigembyfan 63]

Hi Luke, thanks for the quick response, noted, I'll add it in the feature request as it would be a useful addition I think.

Cheers

[Happy2Play 9781]

Screen grabber should be providing a episode thumb if not provided by provider, do you have it enable?

[bigembyfan 63]

Hi Happy2Play, I think the problem might have been because I added the large bulk of the files in the 2 libraries when I had 'Never' selected for 'Generate video preview thumbnails' for both? Or am I missing a separate setting to enable Screen grabber?

I have since enabled that by selecting 'As a scheduled task and when media is added', Emby Server then worked through creating all the Chapter images for all items which worked perfectly. However, all the library items just fallback to the top level 'TV Show' thumbnail I've added (see the screenshot in my initial post above which shows the UEFA Euro poster for all items). I've tried rescans including updating images but that hasn't done it (I assume that's just relevant when the images are downloaded externally like for movies?) - It sounds like I'll have to manually go through and update those or start again with the 2 libraries.

When browsing via the web browser they show the screenshot above, when browsing via the AppleTV app they show no thumbnail at all, just a blank black placeholder.

Both libraries in question are configured as 'TV shows'.

[bigembyfan 63]

Sorry! I was being very blind, I didn't realise that 'Screen Grabber' was one of the options in 'Episode Image Fetchers', I had all those unticked because I knew there'd be no match with any external image fetcher on the files in these libraries.

I've just enabled the 'Screen Grabber' option for 'Episode Image Fetchers' on those libraries and rescanned and now seeing episode images which is great, yet again Emby offering exactly what is needed once the settings are correct, you guys have done a great job.

The selection of one of the other Chapter images would be a nice addition as stated in the feature request but my main issue is sorted now.

 

Edited May 10, 2021 by bigembyfan

[Luke 42080]

Thanks for the feedback.

[embytestit 1]

On 5/9/2021 at 5:19 PM, Luke said:

Hi, it's not possible but it idea has come up before. For now you'd have to set one manually as the main image.

Hi,

I assume that by now (1 year later), this important feature has been implemented. How to assign an image as thumbnail from the generated bif file?

If you have 100 movies that all start with the same scene and for which no grabber data is available, it is unreasonable to manually set a thumbnail for all of them.

Regards
embytestit

[Luke 42080]

11 hours ago, embytestit said:

Hi,

I assume that by now (1 year later), this important feature has been implemented. How to assign an image as thumbnail from the generated bif file?

If you have 100 movies that all start with the same scene and for which no grabber data is available, it is unreasonable to manually set a thumbnail for all of them.

Regards
embytestit

Hi, all you need is to make sure the screen grabber image fetcher is enabled and then one will be generated if no Internet images are available.

[embytestit 1]

Hi,

I wrote:

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If you have 100 movies that all start with the same scene and for which no grabber data is available ...

In my case Screengrabber is enabled and always obviously takes the first frame of the movies which results in 100 identical thumbnails for each video.

If you let the software generate thumbnails for fast-forward and rewind, you should logically be able to use them in the best possible way, e.g. assign one of them directly to the video as a thumbnail in the admin interface.

Since this has apparently been discussed here more than 1 year ago, I wonder how this feature was implemented?

Thanks and kind regards
embytestit

Edited July 9, 2022 by embytestit

[Luke 42080]

Hi, the screen grabber does not grab the first frame but rather from the 10% mark of the video, although this is being increased a little bit for the next release to try and avoid duplicate images from similar videos.

[embytestit 1]

Hello,

when filming a branch with different birds landing on it at different times the 10%-methode doesn't help you much.

It would be better if the user could select the appropriate image from the bif file.

Is it known at which point in the program the 10% mark was set, so that I can at least change the 10% to 50% here?

 

Thanks and kind regards
embytestit

[Luke 42080]

15 hours ago, embytestit said:

Hello,Is it known at which point in the program the 10% mark was set, so that I can at least change the 10% to 50% here?

Hi, what exactly do you mean by "at which point in the program"?

[embytestit 1]

Hi, I mean the code!

Greetings
embytestit

[Luke 42080]

There is currently no option for this exposed in settings but it's certainly possible for future updates.

[embytestit 1]

31 minutes ago, Luke said:

There is currently no option for this exposed in settings but it's certainly possible for future updates.

That is why I asked for the coding "position"!

Regards
embytestit

[Luke 42080]

What would you be able to do with that?

[embytestit 1]

Hi Luke,

is this a joke question?

What are we talking about all the time in this thread?

Kind regards
embytestit

[Luke 42080]

No it's not. I don't understand what you're asking for when you say coding position.

[Happy2Play 9781]

On 7/9/2022 at 12:27 AM, embytestit said:

If you have 100 movies that all start with the same scene and for which no grabber data is available, it is unreasonable to manually set a thumbnail for all of them.

I can only assume you are talking about media that does not have online images as I know of no production movies that would not have provider images.

So you want custom time stamp to get image?  Or possibily generate multiple screen grabs so you can choose one.

There is currently no option to get an image from a specific timestamp or extract for bif file to be used anywhere.  All there is the coded position to extract image via screen grabber and is not adjustable.

 

[embytestit 1]

Coding means programming, "code" means Sourcecode!

In connection with the comment above

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Hi, the screen grabber does not grab the first frame but rather from the 10% mark of the video,

my question should be clear, shouldn´t it?

Best regards
embytestit

[ebr 16185]

7 hours ago, embytestit said:

Coding means programming, "code" means Sourcecode!

In connection with the comment above

my question should be clear, shouldn´t it?

Best regards
embytestit

Correct, but his follow up question was 

 

20 hours ago, Luke said:

What would you be able to do with that?

Since you do not have access to the source code, us telling you where this logic is will not help you.

It is a valid request to be able to choose a specific thumb generated from the thumbnails task as the primary image but, I'm sure you understand, your situation is quite rare so we just haven't gotten to it yet.

Thanks.