Merge Multiple identical Album Artists and Artists

[Painkiller88 249]

I have a Problem with my Album Artists and Artists.

Many of them are listed multiple times with the exact same name and musicbrainz ID etc. but i can't merge them to one.

Also  not all Albums are shown if i click both of them, some are with the first artist and some with the second artist but as i wrote they are identical.

 

How can i merge identical artists to one

 

Thanks

[Guest]

Are all of the tags within the metadata of the files identical.. for the albums and all of the songs?

[Painkiller88 249]

Yes, i Tagged them all myself. All identical

[Happy2Play 9780]

Would need to go over examples, but there would have to be something different in embedded metadata to make them different.

[Painkiller88 249]

I have the same Artists and Album artists multiple time, and also if i manually correct or identify the Artists manually, they are not merging to one.

So how can i merge them, they are identically



Here you see e.g. Bushido many times, all have the same Musicbrainz ID, i identified them manually in hope they would merge.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Just now, Painkiller8818 said:

I have the same Artists and Album artists multiple time, and also if i manually correct or identify the Artists manually, they are not merging to one.

So how can i merge them, they are identically



Here you see e.g. Bushido many times, all have the same Musicbrainz ID, i identified them manually in hope they would merge.

So you are saying the content in each of those are the same also?  

Only way to merge them is having properly tagged tracks.

[Painkiller88 249]

This are only the Artists or Album Artists, sure every artist has more than one Song but if i have the same ID and the Same Name, it should only appear once.

They are manually tagged with mp3tag, so yes, i used the same Artist for all Songs.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Right but are you saying when you enter the artist it shows the same information in all of the multiple artists? 

But you may have to remove everything related to said artist, do a library scan, and re-add if everything is properly tagged.

[Painkiller88 249]

Same is for other artists also


Exact name, identical ID.

In my opinion Artists and Mashup artists should be 1:N but it makes no sense to me having the same artist multiple times if it would be Mashup-Germany ft. someone i can understand but not the exact same.

This is one reason we asked for a bulk metadata editor for over a year.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Just now, Painkiller8818 said:

Same is for other artists also


Exact name, identical ID.

In my opinion Artists and Mashup artists should be 1:N but it makes no sense to me having the same artist multiple times if it would be Mashup-Germany ft. someone i can understand but not the exact same.

This is one reason we asked for a bulk metadata editor for over a year.

entering each on shows same or different information?

[Painkiller88 249]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Right but are you saying when you enter the artist it shows the same information in all of the multiple artists? 

But you may have to remove everything related to said artist, do a library scan, and re-add if everything is properly tagged.

I already tried this, but Emby ignored the local metadata and tries to get internet infos. All the tracks are tagged

[Painkiller88 249]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

entering each on shows same or different information?

all the same information

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, Painkiller8818 said:

This is one reason we asked for a bulk metadata editor for over a year.

With Emby 4.6 going tag drive for music it is out of Emby's control.  All Emby does it read the information provided.  There are slight differences in 4.5 as structure is a variable.

 

Just now, Painkiller8818 said:

I already tried this, but Emby ignored the local metadata and tries to get internet infos. All the tracks are tagged

Sorry but none of my music does this.

[Painkiller88 249]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

With Emby 4.6 going tag drive for music it is out of Emby's control.  All Emby does it read the information provided.  There are slight differences in 4.5 as structure is a variable.

 

Sorry but none of my music does this.

Fine if none of yours doing this, but i can also make a video if you want marking all 370 songs with mp3tag and you see the identical artist and album artist, after adding to emby it is changed.

[Happy2Play 9780]

It is almost impossible to trouble shoot some else's music as everyone tags differently.  

It is either embedded metadata issue or database linking issue.

[Painkiller88 249]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

It is almost impossible to trouble shoot some else's music as everyone tags differently.  

It is either embedded metadata issue or database linking issue.

Ok, but how can i correct it manually? There is no option to select all of the duplicate artists and just merge it.

It is not about the songs, the same artist can only exist once with the exact same ID and the exact same name.

Maybe something you could improve.

[Painkiller88 249]

Here You can see all songs have the same Album Artist, sure different albums but it should only be one Album-Artist

[Happy2Play 9780]

9 minutes ago, Painkiller8818 said:

Ok, but how can i correct it manually? There is no option to select all of the duplicate artists and just merge it.

It is not about the songs, the same artist can only exist once with the exact same ID and the exact same name.

Maybe something you could improve.

You can't as there is no such this as merging a person/artist in Emby.  The are separate item ids and are that way for a reason.  The hard part is figuring out why Emby is treating them as individually different items.

Tag programs are nice but in the end Emby uses FFPROBE to read the embedded tags.  So that is the only information that matters.

I am guessing but case can make same name different also.

But multi-artist tracks need more information or you create as issue of Mashup-Germany and Mashup-Germany vs Selectra being multiple entry. ARTISTS tags are needed when there are multiple ARTIST.

Edited May 7, 2021 by Happy2Play

[Guest]

Mine are showing up fine for Bushido.. I keep simple tags.. Problem I have right now is different so forgive the absence of artist pictures.. but you see the same things in the tags.. If I had any difference in Musicbrainz ID's which is where EMBY gets additional information.. then it would separate them.. I would check online and see what entries there are for Bushido for example.. making sure the ID's are the same.. There are several to check for redundancy and differences.

EXAMPLE

Artists

Album Artists

TagScanner.. shows pretty much all of my tags.. ( I don't embed MusicBrainz..found conflicts/personal observed issues with out EMBY even )

[Luke 42078]

Most likely they are tagged in the tracks differently, but the artist metadata lookup renamed them to just Bushido.

[GrumpyTrucker 3]

I'm having exactly the same issue. All tracks are tagged as Artist and Album Artist exactly the same. Album Artist is exactly the same using MusicBrainz and AudioDB.

There is no difference between the tags at all. No case difference, no outside source difference, but Emby insists in seeing the artist Temperance as separate artists no matter what. And if if I add another couple of albums it comes up a third time. Again, with all embedded information identical. It's driving me nuts.

[Luke 42078]

4 minutes ago, GrumpyTrucker said:

I'm having exactly the same issue. All tracks are tagged as Artist and Album Artist exactly the same. Album Artist is exactly the same using MusicBrainz and AudioDB.

There is no difference between the tags at all. No case difference, no outside source difference, but Emby insists in seeing the artist Temperance as separate artists no matter what. And if if I add another couple of albums it comes up a third time. Again, with all embedded information identical. It's driving me nuts.

Hi, once you investigate and dig deep enough, you'll generally find that there is a difference even though it may not initially be obvious.

[GrumpyTrucker 3]

12 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi, once you investigate and dig deep enough, you'll generally find that there is a difference even though it may not initially be obvious.

I'm not sure how much deeper I can dig. I tagged the files myself. The ONLY ID3 tags in the files are the track title, track number, album title, artist name, and album artist. These last two are identical on all tracks. Emby itself even inserts the same MusicBrainz and AudioDB identifiers in all cases. I genuinely have no idea where these files can differ. Emby picking them up as the same artist for identification but then separates them out in the Album Artists page. It's weird. Admittedly the artist is a bit obscure, but is being correctly identified.

[pwhodges 2012]

I only discovered yesterday that my carefully tagged album (using Mp3tag) which had an album being split up unexpectedly had a difference which Mp3Tag wasn't showing me:  The tracks had both "Album Artist" and "AlbumArtist" tags, and only one (the first) is shown in the normal editing pane - and once I discovered where it shows the other can only be edited track by track...    So I had happily made "Album Artist" the same, but Emby was also seeing that "AlbumArtist" was varying.

I don't know what field might be causing you trouble, but I do know that changing to using TagScanner made it much easier to see and fix my problem (I know lots of people swear by Picard, but for some reason I find it completely incomprehensible!).

If none of this applies to you, sorry - it's the best I can think of.

Paul

[Guest]

That is exactly why I removed all tags that do not apply to the basics.. ( ie.. albumartist and album artist ).. and yeah I love TagScanner..  

I also remove all but the ID3v2.4 tags if possible except VORBIS...