Collections and multiple versions of a movie

[sross44 432]

This may have been asked and answered but I can’t seem to find it. For now (until 4.6 with tone mapping) I have a folder for HD movies and one for 4K movies. The plan is to eventually get rid of all of the HD duplicates once tone mapping works 100%. 
 

Anyway my question is this. When in either folder when I click on a collection, I see all of the movies from both folders. So as an example if I want to watch the last Star Wars movie in 4K, I go to my 4k movies section and scroll till I see the Star Wars collection. However when I click on it, I now have 18 movies to choose from instead of 9 as it shows all of the 4K Star Wars movies (which obviously makes sense) but also the 1080p versions. Are collections not tied to specific folders, but everything on the server as a whole?

Is there a way for me to remedy this within each collection? Any helps would be great because until 4.6 rolls out and tone mapping actually works the way it’s supposed ro…. I’m left to make sure I’m picking the right version of each movie which is kind of a pain. 

[Guest]

Have you followed proper file/folder structure for EMBY in regards to where the movies are located and are the files named with the proper file naming convention for versioning as well?

[Happy2Play 9783]

Sorry no as collections  apply to all libraries so your only option is removing library access to only show one version via Collections/group into collections.

[sross44 432]

31 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Sorry no as collections  apply to all libraries so your only option is removing library access to only show one version via Collections/group into collections.

Thanks. I didn’t think what I wanted to do was possible while on the current build.

Can’t wait for  tone mapping….. it’ll be nice to not have multiple copies of the same thing!

[sross44 432]

With that same logic.... why does Continue Watching show multiple versions of a movie when they’re in different folders? Shouldn’t it only take the “file” you were watching, not the movie. So if I start watching a 4k version of Top Gun, shouldn’t only the 4k version of the movie show up in Continue Watching? 

[Guest]

Are the files named exactly the same?

[Deathsquirrel 745]

1 hour ago, sross44 said:

With that same logic.... why does Continue Watching show multiple versions of a movie when they’re in different folders? Shouldn’t it only take the “file” you were watching, not the movie. So if I start watching a 4k version of Top Gun, shouldn’t only the 4k version of the movie show up in Continue Watching? 

No, watched status applies to the movie, not the file.  If you have 5 versions of the same movie, all recognized as the same film in metadata, you'll have one watched status tracker for all of them.

[sross44 432]

4 hours ago, Deathsquirrel said:

No, watched status applies to the movie, not the file.  If you have 5 versions of the same movie, all recognized as the same film in metadata, you'll have one watched status tracker for all of them.

Makes sense and at the same time doesn't. It shouldn't be that hard to have a "file" be what is shown if that's what you want etc. Again, having duplicates of movies is annoying and hopefully something that can go away sooner than later. 

[pwhodges 2012]

The trouble stems from the fact that multi versions are being used for two different things.  If they are used (as designed) for different encodings/resolutions of the same film, then having a single tracker makes sense - as when you decide to continue viewing on a different device a different "version" may be optimal and so Emby should use it.  But if the versions are being used for different cuts or edits, then a shared tracker is entirely wrong, as you will wish to continue in the same "version", whatever Emby thinks.

Basically Emby needs a way to tell or be told which kind of versioning is in use.  But then, what if you have two "technical" versions each of two different cuts of the film?  You can make a collection of the two cuts - but what then if the film (whichever cut) is part of a collection itself?

It's actually a complicated mess, and I quite understand why Emby hasn't yet found a solution.

Paul

[Happy2Play 9783]

6 hours ago, sross44 said:

With that same logic.... why does Continue Watching show multiple versions of a movie when they’re in different folders? Shouldn’t it only take the “file” you were watching, not the movie. So if I start watching a 4k version of Top Gun, shouldn’t only the 4k version of the movie show up in Continue Watching? 

Well tracking is done by providerid not path so you have two different libraries with two copied of the movie you get 2 Continue Watching or more for every ungrouped copy you have.  So it is more about grouping vs ungrouped (ie multiple different library copies).

[Guest]

That is why I asked the questions I did.. above.. if versioning was actually being used correctly, and the filenames were different.. ( file naming convention followed, in the same folder ) You would get one Poster and one representation of the video in your library and only one 'Continue Watching'...

Technically following this same method adding 1080p and 4K or 2160p... then merged.. When the time came to delete the others a search could be performed and the files destroyed...  Continue watching would pick up where you left off on the file and entry you were watching..

It is because of how it was designed to operate... and how the code is written internally. It is not written to support another structure. Music is done the same way.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Guest