Server a8-7410???

[Koradris 0]

Hi all ,

I have an old preassembled PC that I took out of the office , have on board a AMD A8 7410 and a Nvidia gt 720.

do you think it is possible to create a Nas with Emby server with this machine?

maximum 1 or 2 simultaneous streams, max 1 transcode on 1080 p.

or do I throw everything and take a Raspberry Pi 4?

 

Many thanks !

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[Guest]

The first box.. I would look at the MOBO and see what capabilities it has and what it's limits are going to be going forward and for expansion or upgrade... So do the specs and see what it will handle. Even expanding the thing to handle multiple drives like an NAS.. and how fast is that transfer going to come out of the system. You will still have to invest there and it may never lend to the upgrades necessary going forward. For example your video card doesn't necessarily like 1080p but will do it (starting off with it, not long after the fact)

Honestly the Raspberry Pi looks like a good option... as far as 4K compatibility... BUT I feel better with a full fledge system.. Personal Opinion.. but just for Emby.. probably fine and the 4K would not necessarily be needed except for the client devices.. They make a small Windows 10 Box too but they are more expensive..

I would also think about the platform and how well you are going to be able to secure the OS server and system as well.

IF though you are looking at NAS capabilities.. eSATA connections get 6 GB/s and USB3 gets 5 GB/s... having the capability to connect to your system resource or NAS with those two would be the most desirable and gets you around the 1 GB/s transfer speed of Ethernet.. meaning lightning fast connections and data transfer between the system and the repository..

Then your looking at EHD's instead of HDD's ( more expensive ). SATA III connections allow 6 GB/s, while newer SAS connections/drives allow for 12 GB/s...

All of this is no good without a good processor and RAM of course... For transcoding and serving...

I have seen a few NAS boxes with these capabilities for under $200-- then the drives are about that if they are the same ( 6 GB/s ) each.

( I paid $1,400 for my NAS and about $300 per drive back in 2011-ish -supports 100 simultaneous users and 2 Gigabit Cards - and have no USB3 or eSATA unless I am doing a backup in either direction but cannot access as a peripheral device )

But my investment however has lasted for over 10 years without a glitch..

In the last 18 years ... I have been through three systems - two I had beforehand, two phones, and three tablets since then. ( Two tablets were Windows 8 SRT though- Nokia 2520.. best tablet ever, They made a mistake with the processor but it was a safe tablet nonetheless .. STILL rocked just couldn't do much, and one I am not for sure what happened ) - something to think about, and a matter of how dedicated you are to the endeavor.. or if this is just to see how it goes before a real investment in the thing as a lifetime archive and media server/repository.

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by Guest

[Koradris 0]

I already own a Raspberry Pi 3, I used it as a torrentbox.

i tried to install emby, it works pretty well in direct playback but obviously in transcode it's a drama.

actually I already have 3 hard drives, 2 of 4 terabytes and one of 6 terabytes.

what I need in the end is that the system can only handle one transcoding from 4k to 1080.

Do you think that preassembled can do it?

The machine have 3 sata free ports and 1 PCI slot free ....the TDP of CPU il 15 watt .

Not too bad for a old PC (2016) .

My intention Is to install on this pc openmediavault , emby and a torrent downloader.

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by Koradris

[Guest]

What about the socket.. have you researched an upgraded CPU?

[Koradris 0]

6 minutes ago, Hxemby001 said:

What about the socket.. have you researched an upgraded CPU?

I am attaching a photo of cpu Z, I do not think it can be improved much.

[Guest]

I think I just found out that this CPU is soldered to the MOBO.. replacement is EXTREMELY difficult as they are saying... LOL

So that answer may be a no.. That is what my concern would be.. More than likely with no transcoding going on you will be fine.. but even my CPU, i5 6500T - Dell 7040 Micro Form Factor 8GB RAM - which benchmarks way above the A8.. still has trouble with transcoding HEVC.. and a few other things.. It still works though... Straight playback is not an issue at all.. just when transcoding.

So my guess would be that it would be okay for the most part as long as you have good solid ethernet connection for direct play as much as possible...( Client side capability as well )

Not for sure getting a Raspberry Pi 4 would help much I didn't look at the CPU bench on it yet. From what I read it may not do well...

( I did go look at this at one time LarkBox Desktop Mini PC Intel® Celeron® J4115 6GB RAM+128GB SSD | CHUW – CHUWI STORE for the server by itself and as an idea to run my main home entertainment instead of a Smart TV with data mining... LOL or something else..- like a Roku or something, did find them cheaper around the internet )

I guess I would say go with the old box and make considerations where possible to make it as efficient as possible, as far as delivery.. If it is just you.. and direct in your home.. it will probably work out..

[Koradris 0]

You think this as server Is ok ?

With Intel Quick Sync 

Only 130 euros.

Have 4 USB 3....

Mini PC CENAVA P3T Intel Celeron Gemini Lake J4115 8GB DDR4 64GB SSD Quad Core 1.8GHz a 2.5GHz SATAⅢ M.2 2242 BT4.2 Supporto Linux / Win10 Mini PC 

 

Or this :

GMK NucBOX Intel Celeron J4125 8 GB LPDDR4 128 G SSD Mini PC Desktop PC Mini computer Quad Core 2.0GHz a 2,7 GHz TDP 10 W M.2 2242 SATA Type-C HDMI Windows 10 BT4.2

Edited April 11, 2021 by Koradris

[Guest]

The second option you posted I like better for the processor.. but the J4115 is a good processor as well.. as far as its clock is just under mine.. ( mine is limited until needed because of cooling which is what the T at the end is for.. So pretty close to an i5.. The SSD would something to think about.. when it came to installing programs.. or using it for other things.. but it does look to be a good option..

With the USB 3 ports, a box like one of the MediaSonic boxes would retain data transfer speed between the system and repository.. and you could run your other applications on it as well.. in a nice tidy box.. LOL.. Clients and even the Pi 3 could connect to it. ( Ethernet>MiniPC>USB3>MediaSonic )

You could still connect via lan to the A8 machine.. but data transfer is going to be at 1 GB/s.. which is probably fine until you get a lot of traffic.. ( and is basically the same thing as a basic NAS - mentioning because of direct play and usability too ) but would be fine as well-- but you could just keep the A8 out of the picture or purpose it for something else.

I am connected to ReadyNAS 316 via 1 GB/s Ethernet...  using a Netgear R8000 router... it allows for up to 3.2 Gbps total (with wireless) transfer.. and my system has a gigabit card for 1 Gbps transfer max.. I usually get direct play with most of everything I do even with three WebUI Tabs open playing movies at the same time for testing..  My server is installed on the Dell 7040.. so I use it (7040, Emby) to access network drives mounted from the NAS...( Ethernet>7040>Ethernet>316 )

So basically it is still do-able.. without the Media Sonic.. and you would retain the A8 machine for the other things you mentioned above .. without transcoding and causing a problem..

The Raspberry Pi 3 you have could also act as a client as well as any other devices which accept connections from Emby for DNLA and so on.. without major transcoding taking place.. The Mini PC being your main server and go-to regular usage.. at reasonable costs...

So you have options there..LOL

[Guest]

Probably should have said this before.. Personal opinion..

Get the Nuke Box.. and a Media Sonic 8-Bay for relatively small investment.. and it supports the processes.. and is a usable system ( with the OS drive separate from the data storage ) keeping speed in check.. and allowing for expansion.. in the future as your repository or archive grows in time.. Which I am guessing is what you want.. you can invest in the drives as you need them..