Change sort order to not ignore prefix?

[Happy2Play 9780]

 

You can make a feature request but I'd expect the overwhelming majority of people expect to see 'The Butterfly Effect' under B and not T.  That's why the current behavior is a default.

 

Disagree with that, whole heartedly!

 

 

You may but the it is true.

[Deathsquirrel 745]

Disagree with that, whole heartedly!

 

Well I could be massively overestimating the number of people that have ever been to a library or learned how to alphabetically sort titles in English...

[Luke 42077]

Well that's why we have options.

[andyxoxo 4]

Well I could be massively overestimating the number of people that have ever been to a library or learned how to alphabetically sort titles in English...

 

Are we reading Shakespeare here? Comparing TV shows to library books lol ...

Edited August 17, 2019 by andyxoxo

[crusher11 1101]

It's literally the objectively correct way of sorting, andy. You're not going to win this one.

[Gilgamesh_48 1240]

Words like the, a, etc. should absolutely be ignored in the default sorting. In fact all such in any language should be ignored. I have "Les Misérables" in my library (actually both versions) and Emby correctly strips the "Les" for sorting.

 

However that are a few movies, like "It's a Mad Mad Mad World" that easily could be argued that the sorting is somewhat incorrect. It is found in the "Is" because "It's" is not considered as an article but, in this case, I think that movie really belongs in the "Ms". Of course this can be fixed using the sort title just like if a user really wants other articles to be considered for sorting they can just place whatever they want in the "Sort Title" field.

 

For Emby this is a problem that is already fixed so that users that really want to violate standard sorting rules have a way to do so with relative ease.

 

It really seems like this is a non-issue where everyone can already have what they want.

[crusher11 1101]

I do sort foreign titles normally (Le Samourai under L, for example), mostly because I have no idea what counts as a prefix in all the various languages.

[Carlo 4560]

On 8/17/2019 at 6:45 AM, Happy2Play said:

 

You may but the it is true.

 

On 8/17/2019 at 1:50 PM, Gilgamesh_48 said:

Words like the, a, etc. should absolutely be ignored in the default sorting. In fact all such in any language should be ignored. I have "Les Misérables" in my library (actually both versions) and Emby correctly strips the "Les" for sorting.

 

However that are a few movies, like "It's a Mad Mad Mad World" that easily could be argued that the sorting is somewhat incorrect. It is found in the "Is" because "It's" is not considered as an article but, in this case, I think that movie really belongs in the "Ms". Of course this can be fixed using the sort title just like if a user really wants other articles to be considered for sorting they can just place whatever they want in the "Sort Title" field.

 

For Emby this is a problem that is already fixed so that users that really want to violate standard sorting rules have a way to do so with relative ease.

 

It really seems like this is a non-issue where everyone can already have what they want.

"is" isn't included in the article list of words removed. You could add it here if you wanted.  We should probably support more than just 3 languages for this as well.

Current:

<SortRemoveWords>
    <string>the</string>
    <string>a</string>
    <string>an</string>
    <string>das</string>
    <string>der</string>
    <string>el</string>
    <string>la</string>
  </SortRemoveWords>

@Lukeif you wanted to add the entries below that would cover the top 20 countries that stream media and also make sense to ignore/remove starting articles.  Asian languages not included

<SortRemoveWords>
    <string>the</string>
    <string>a</string>
    <string>an</string>
    <string>ek</string>
    <string>yek</string>
    <string>o</string>
    <string>os</string>
    <string>as</string>
    <string>um</string>
    <string>uma</string>
    <string>uns</string>
    <string>umas</string>
    <string>le</string>
    <string>la</string>
    <string>les</string>
    <string>un</string>
    <string>une</string>
    <string>des</string>
    <string>der</string>
    <string>die</string>
    <string>das</string>
    <string>ein</string>
    <string>eine</string>
    <string>el</string>
    <string>los</string>
    <string>las</string>
    <string>unos</string>
    <string>unas</string>
    <string>il</string>
    <string>lo</string>
    <string>l'</string>
    <string>i</string>
    <string>gli</string>
    <string>le</string>
    <string>uno</string>
    <string>una</string>
    <string>un'</string>
    <string>de</string>
    <string>het</string>
    <string>een</string>
    <string>ang</string>
    <string>ng</string>
    <string>sa</string>
 </SortRemoveWords>

That should cover:

United States
India
Brazil
United Kingdom
Canada
Germany
France
Mexico
South Korea
Australia
Argentina
Italy
Spain
Netherlands
Turkey
Indonesia
Philippines