Request: Add Years to Folders in Series Naming Convention

[Lighthammer 91]

Greetings,

 

I have another naming convention addon request:

For TV series I usually use the following following format:
Arrow (2012)

- Season 1 (2012)

- Season 2 (2013)

- Season 3 (2014)

 

The auto organizer fails constantly because it doesn't understand this format at all. 

If I'm not mistaken, the fields are readily accessible to be pulled from IMDB's DB, but worse comes to worse, they could be pulled from thetvdb's DB for the premier episode and trunced both for automation purposes if rules are defined in auto-organize. 

 

Thanks for the consideration!

[speechles 2055]

Out of curiosity why do you name the seasons with year? This isn't common to do. You just need the year on the filename of the series, the parent folder. It seems wrong to label seasons with years. The metadata of the episode will make known when that exact episode aired. What if the season has a haitus and continuation the next year. You put two years and a hyphen in the parenthesis after the season? This just seems many levels of wrong.

 

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[Lighthammer 91]

Not all series run consecutively year to year. Southpark is a good example of this or Legend of Korra is another god example. 

I also don't run all media through Media Browser. 

For me personality, I find it servers as an interesting sanity check when I'm watching a series to realize "Oh wow, this season was during this year". 

I should point out that I do realize in looking at how MOST people organize their media, I don't see a lot of people doing this, however, when you look at a lot of media interface, MOST media interfaces do in fact list the release year of the season. 

[Redshirt 1487]

As speechles stated that's not a common format. At least in the MB world. 

 

MB will ignore all data within hard braces. So depending on the requirements of your other media programs, you may be able to work with a naming scheme such as Season 1 [2011].

[bluemonkey07 590]

Not all series run consecutively year to year. Southpark is a good example of this or Legend of Korra is another god example.

 

I also don't run all media through Media Browser.

 

For me personality, I find it servers as an interesting sanity check when I'm watching a series to realize "Oh wow, this season was during this year".

 

I should point out that I do realize in looking at how MOST people organize their media, I don't see a lot of people doing this, however, when you look at a lot of media interface, MOST media interfaces do in fact list the release year of the season.

most media interfaces get this information from metadata... Not file structure/filenames

[Lighthammer 91]

As speechles stated that's not a common format. At least in the MB world. 

 

MB will ignore all data within hard braces. So depending on the requirements of your other media programs, you may be able to work with a naming scheme such as Season 1 [2011].

 

This is very useful to know. I'll convert everything to this for now.

 

For auto organize purposes though, I still would like to request the ability to allow auto organize to add these suffixes --- or at least recognize they exist.

[Lighthammer 91]

Hmmm

 

Redshirt, does this mean that folders completely in square brackets are ignored?

 

IE would a folder named [ignore me] be ignored?

Edited August 9, 2014 by Lighthammer

[Koleckai Silvestri 1154]

In a world ruled by metadata, adding unnecessary and extraneous information in the folder and file names just slows down development of real features. Each episode already retrieves its aired date and release year according to the data provider. While not always one hundred percent accurate, it provides the proper context of year for the great majority of shows.

[AdrianW 1058]

Hmmm

 

Redshirt, does this mean that folders completely in square brackets are ignored?

 

IE would a folder named [ignore me] be ignored?

 

No - only the TEXT inside the square brackets is ignored.

[Lighthammer 91]

When we talk about meta data though, we also have to talk about why systems grow and why conventions change and morph.

This change is actually something I recently did (within the last 9 months) because I found the change as I was looking through media to be informed, allowed for quicker isolation and search-ability of files and added some fun to the utility of it. All good directions to be considered for good development practices.

 

Part of the raw power of Media Browser isn't just its sheer media platform capability. That's it's over arching and overly recognized power. I think one of the powerful gems of Media Browser that may go unrecognized is its power and ability to standardize, formalize and clean media libraries.

I've honestly found Luke's willingness to sparehead a lot of these known or established conventions to be most impressive but transversely, I don't think that some evolution of standards can't come out of the project too.

I don't think what I outlined here is unreasonable or all the points I've made.

[Lighthammer 91]

No - only the TEXT inside the square brackets is ignored.

 

Thank you for the insight. If folders would be ignored like that, that would have been a neat way for me to kill some boulders.  Oh well.

[ebr 16184]

Thank you for the insight. If folders would be ignored like that, that would have been a neat way for me to kill some boulders.  Oh well.

 

We used to ignore any folder that contained a file named '.ignore'.  Not sure if that has been removed.

 

As for your request, personally, I don't think it provides enough value for enough people to warrant the support.  As Wayne Luke said, we already have this information in metadata - there isn't really a good reason to put it in the folder names.  Also as pointed out, many seasons cross years which would further complicate this.

[AdrianW 1058]

We used to ignore any folder that contained a file named '.ignore'.  Not sure if that has been removed.

 

 

.ignore is still working, as I explained to Lighthammer in his other thread.

[Lighthammer 91]

Ignore is an awesome solution for some things. This is a completely different animal. Ignoring folders with a new naming convention means you don't get the content added into media browser. It doesn't help the situation, it hurts it.

 

Using ignore for folders that might be temporarily problematic or fit into your own organizational methods but don't make sense for a streamable format like media browser is a pretty cool "hack" (for lack of a better readily available term).

 

Either way, it seems everyone is so against this concept, I've converted my season folders to use square brackets instead of parentheses, and hopefully that should resolve any qualms Media Browser has with how I lay things out.

 

Hopefully someone on the dev team will at least mark this on idea on the would be nice list and if time permits down the road, it can be looked at.