Actors sort order

[CharleyVarrick 283]

Is there a way to correct the sort order of actors (cast & crew) so that main actors appear before supporting cast?

 

An example below:

 

Edited January 17, 2021 by jlr19
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[PenkethBoy 2068]

IIRC its the order on tvdb or tmdb - or the order their api's return them to emby

[ebr 16169]

Save to nfo and then re-order them inside the nfo and refresh...?

[CharleyVarrick 283]

59 minutes ago, ebr said:

Save to nfo and then re-order them inside the nfo and refresh...?

That would work, but I was hoping/expecting to be able do it thru Emby, by itself.

Similar to the sort arrows in Library mgmt.
 

 

EDIT:

Being able to sort cast within Emby's edit metadata would be simpler,, faster, more efficient, imho.

So this might be considered a feature request.

Edited January 17, 2021 by jlr19

[CharleyVarrick 283]

1 hour ago, PenkethBoy said:

IIRC its the order on tvdb or tmdb - or the order their api's return them to emby

On the tvdb website, actors are sorted by importance, but I wouldn't have a clue about the api.

[Luke 42077]

1 hour ago, jlr19 said:

That would work, but I was hoping/expecting to be able do it thru Emby, by itself.

Similar to the sort arrows in Library mgmt.
 

 

EDIT:

Being able to sort cast within Emby's edit metadata would be simpler,, faster, more efficient, imho.

So this might be considered a feature request.

This is something that we should add, but no we currently do not have it.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

Edit metadata of a show, under People.

I believe sort arrows would be more useful there than the present recycle bin.

Thanks Luke and all.

 

Edited January 17, 2021 by jlr19

[Carlo 4560]

Or setup like playlists where you can drag an item and reorder it.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Even if added would provider data end up reordering your modifications as it has sort order or would it just be ignored after initial import?

Example 12 Monkeys

Spoiler

<Actors>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014786</id>
        <Image>actors/376574.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Aaron Stanford</Name>
        <Role>James Cole</Role>
        <SortOrder>1</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014781</id>
        <Image>actors/376573.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Amanda Schull</Name>
        <Role>Cassandra Railly</Role>
        <SortOrder>2</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014801</id>
        <Image>actors/376577.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Emily Hampshire</Name>
        <Role>Jennifer Goines</Role>
        <SortOrder>3</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014797</id>
        <Image>actors/376576.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Barbara Sukowa</Name>
        <Role>Katarina Jones</Role>
        <SortOrder>4</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014792</id>
        <Image>actors/376575.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Kirk Acevedo</Name>
        <Role>José Ramse</Role>
        <SortOrder>5</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014804</id>
        <Image>actors/376578.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Todd Stashwick</Name>
        <Role>Deacon</Role>
        <SortOrder>6</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014769</id>
        <Image>actors/340305.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Tom Noonan</Name>
        <Role>Pallid Man</Role>
        <SortOrder>7</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014774</id>
        <Image>actors/340310.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Noah Bean</Name>
        <Role>Aaron Marker</Role>
        <SortOrder>8</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014810</id>
        <Image>actors/426607.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Alisen Down</Name>
        <Role>Olivia Kirschner</Role>
        <SortOrder>9</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014816</id>
        <Image>actors/491767.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Brooke Williams</Name>
        <Role>Hannah</Role>
        <SortOrder>10</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014821</id>
        <Image>actors/491768.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Andrew Gillies</Name>
        <Role>Julian Adler</Role>
        <SortOrder>11</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014827</id>
        <Image>actors/491942.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Demore Barnes</Name>
        <Role>Marcus Whitley</Role>
        <SortOrder>12</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
</Actors>

 

[Luke 42077]

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Even if added would provider data end up reordering your modifications as it has sort order or would it just be ignored after initial import?

Example 12 Monkeys

  Reveal hidden contents

<Actors>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014786</id>
        <Image>actors/376574.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Aaron Stanford</Name>
        <Role>James Cole</Role>
        <SortOrder>1</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014781</id>
        <Image>actors/376573.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Amanda Schull</Name>
        <Role>Cassandra Railly</Role>
        <SortOrder>2</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014801</id>
        <Image>actors/376577.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Emily Hampshire</Name>
        <Role>Jennifer Goines</Role>
        <SortOrder>3</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014797</id>
        <Image>actors/376576.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Barbara Sukowa</Name>
        <Role>Katarina Jones</Role>
        <SortOrder>4</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014792</id>
        <Image>actors/376575.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Kirk Acevedo</Name>
        <Role>José Ramse</Role>
        <SortOrder>5</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014804</id>
        <Image>actors/376578.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Todd Stashwick</Name>
        <Role>Deacon</Role>
        <SortOrder>6</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014769</id>
        <Image>actors/340305.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Tom Noonan</Name>
        <Role>Pallid Man</Role>
        <SortOrder>7</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014774</id>
        <Image>actors/340310.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Noah Bean</Name>
        <Role>Aaron Marker</Role>
        <SortOrder>8</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014810</id>
        <Image>actors/426607.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Alisen Down</Name>
        <Role>Olivia Kirschner</Role>
        <SortOrder>9</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014816</id>
        <Image>actors/491767.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Brooke Williams</Name>
        <Role>Hannah</Role>
        <SortOrder>10</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014821</id>
        <Image>actors/491768.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Andrew Gillies</Name>
        <Role>Julian Adler</Role>
        <SortOrder>11</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
    <Actor>
        <id>64014827</id>
        <Image>actors/491942.jpg</Image>
        <Name>Demore Barnes</Name>
        <Role>Marcus Whitley</Role>
        <SortOrder>12</SortOrder>
    </Actor>
</Actors>

 

Yes it would if you refresh metadata.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

Isn't it the reason for this option in editmetadata ?

[Luke 42077]

Yes exactly. You're just giving up a whole lot by locking the whole thing.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

I am at wits end trying to fix that specific show.

all provider (imdb, tmdb and tvdb) website show correct actor sort order, but for some reason (api?), I still get grandma Florrick's pic  first in Emby.

Refreshing metadata doesnT fix it. Tried Identify with all data source, no difference. Tried removing serie folder from main tv show folder (and deleting tvshow.nfo), same thing.

Tried putting tvdb id# in serie folder name.... no joy.

 

Calling all fellow OCD on that one

Edited February 15, 2021 by jlr19

[Carlo 4560]

What show is it?

[CharleyVarrick 283]

2 minutes ago, cayars said:

What show is it?

The Good Wife.

I tried EBR's suggestion to resort actor order in the show's nfo and it did work, so while not the most elegant way to fix it, it now does show main actor before supporting cast.

Look before (op) compared to now:

[GregMo 24]

On 1/17/2021 at 11:59 AM, ebr said:

Save to nfo and then re-order them inside the nfo and refresh...?

I know this is an old post but I've seen it mentioned a few times so I thought I would give a better solution.  I can't imagine why in the world Emby would pull movie data from a TV site before the two movie sites it uses, but that aside, the easy fix is to create an account on tvdb and then edit the cast order there.  Then, not only do you fix it for yourself, but for everyone that comes after you.

[Luke 42077]

10 minutes ago, GregMo said:

I know this is an old post but I've seen it mentioned a few times so I thought I would give a better solution.  I can't imagine why in the world Emby would pull movie data from a TV site before the two movie sites it uses, but that aside, the easy fix is to create an account on tvdb and then edit the cast order there.  Then, not only do you fix it for yourself, but for everyone that comes after you.

Hi, what do you mean? Default order for movies is MovieDb first.

[GrimReaper 4739]

You can also lend your support here:

And/or use 3rd party tool:

 

[GregMo 24]

1 minute ago, Luke said:

Hi, what do you mean? Default order for movies is MovieDb first.

My Emby server auto updates to the latest release version and for the movie (https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/24740-the-entity) it pulled the cast order from tvdb instead of moviedb or imdb which both had it correct.  I refreshed metadata a few times trying to fix a different issue but it wasn't until I edited the order on tvdb that it corrected the cast order

[Luke 42077]

Just now, GregMo said:

My Emby server auto updates to the latest release version and for the movie (https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/24740-the-entity) it pulled the cast order from tvdb instead of moviedb or imdb which both had it correct.  I refreshed metadata a few times trying to fix a different issue but it wasn't until I edited the order on tvdb that it corrected the cast order

I would check your metadata fetcher order for your movie library.

[GregMo 24]

Now this is interesting.  The first image is from the server running on my RPi.  The default setting is apparently to use the TVdb on that version as I've done next to nothing in configuration on it.  The second image is from my Windows server.  It is set to not even use TVdb but it does for cast, at a minimum.

 

 

 

[Luke 42077]

I would try using the arrows to put tvdb last. Then going forward after that it will be prioritized lower.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

6 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

And/or use 3rd party tool:

 

@GrimReaper

good morning Mr Reaper, say hello to Ms Reaper for me !

 

This software looks C L, what's it called ?

 

Edited April 15, 2023 by CharleyVarrick

[GrimReaper 4739]

Hey up, Charley, long time no see.  Regards to Mrs Varrick likewise.

Edited April 15, 2023 by GrimReaper

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 hours ago, CharleyVarrick said:

This software looks C L, what's it called ?

That would be tinyMediaManager (TMM).