I really like Emby but I am switching to plex

[shinebar 2]

I was a hardcore fan of emby but now I've decided to move to plex. The client support on emby is not cool! You shouldn't put trial limit on you Firetv emby. Except that, everything else is gold.

[neik 873]

So, basically you want everything for free?

Or did I get it wrong?

[Luke 42077]

Hi there @shinebar, we work very hard on Emby and we thank you for your support.

[RanmaCanada 494]

It's like 5 bucks.  If you don't think Luke and company deserve your support, then I am sure they will be happy to see you go and be ignored.  Plex forums are famous for issues not being resolved and also for the silence of the dev team.  Luke and everyone on the Emby team are EXTREMELY active in the support section, far more than any dev team I have ever seen.  

[SwanStream 64]

Looks like you found a free option that does everything you want...for free... whether it works or not....

I've used Emby since way back in the early MediaBrowser days and have seen the evolution and work of those like @Luke. Always respectful, often helpful. I wouldn't trade that for the privilege  of having my posts for support be ignored by developers, free or not.

But... each to their own, sounds like a win for all!

Good luck and goodbye. 

[Carlo 4560]

I guess Emby isn't worth the cost of a Latte.

Not to mention Latte will be gone in 5 minutes but the app license would be good for a lifetime. 

[sross44 430]

On 1/9/2021 at 3:52 PM, cayars said:

I guess Emby isn't worth the cost of a Latte.

Not to mention Latte will be gone in 5 minutes but the app license would be good for a lifetime. 

5 min? I finish my coffee in like 2 haha. Seriously though, I wish people would realize that the cost of Emby Premier helps to pay all of you guys and continue the development of this program. Not just the "use" of an app. 

[Yodikko 3]

When I got like really no money, like a year ago I was like "Heck no I'm not paying this thing". Now, a year after, having work and understood the value of 5€ (and having it lmao) I can say Emby is totally worth it. And especially I love the support of Luke and all of the guys gives here.

I think with only donation they would never do a great job as they do now. 

Edited January 21, 2021 by ebr
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[Luke 42077]

On 1/21/2021 at 4:01 AM, Yodikko said:

 

I think with only donation they would never do a great job as they do now. 

Exactly, as our full-time jobs, this project could not survive on donations. A donation-based model is only viable if it's a hobby project you're working on in your spare time, and if we did that, we would not have anywhere near the features that we do now.

[Carlo 4560]

Not to mention besides the development and support of the software itself things like Guide Data could never be part of the project.

[sross44 430]

5 minutes ago, cayars said:

Not to mention besides the development and support of the software itself things like Guide Data could never be part of the project.

Having built in guide data is probably one of the best features a media server offering Live TV can offer. Stupid question but is it the Tivo API you use for guide data?  I’ve started to notice a few errors lately... but nothing worth really reporting quite yet. I know this is off topic here so I won’t go any further in to it. Just kind of curious. 

[Carlo 4560]

No we get our guide data directly from the #1 guide provider.

It's not a 2nd level or tiered service.

Guide data will always have certain little things that can drive you nuts.  Season/Episode numbers that don't match meta-data providers (who is correct?).
A Premier status for a movie that's older and has been shown on another station
etc

The Providers are always at the will of the stations feeding them data, just as we are to them.

However for things like missing stations, wrong channels or glaring EPG issues we can notify them to help them get the issue resolved so feel free to post these issues as we pay big bucks for this data and want it to be good as possible.

Post such issues here: 

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/forum/182-emby-guide-data/

[BobbyCR 13]

I tried Plex along side Emby and they way they handle their wrappers and the limitations are awful. sticking to Emby! 

 

i couldn't get Plex to read the local .nfo files inside each movie, series. that was a killer for me with the podcast things they try to get you to use which i hate. 

[Carlo 4560]

One reason why central login and fixed ports aren't such a great idea.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/plex-media-servers-are-being-abused-for-ddos-attacks/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/ddosers-are-abusing-the-plex-media-server-to-make-attacks-more-potent/
https://www.extremetech.com/internet/319808-plex-media-servers-being-used-to-amplify-ddos-attacks

Some ISPs are already starting to block certain ports to stop DDOS attacks originating from their networks.  That could also stop users logging into to your server. 

With configurable ports you control on your server and ability to map ports yourself, things like this don't need to happen in Emby world.

Edited February 6, 2021 by cayars

[canada99 9]

On 1/24/2021 at 1:30 AM, sross44 said:

Having built in guide data is probably one of the best features a media server offering Live TV can offer. Stupid question but is it the Tivo API you use for guide data?  I’ve started to notice a few errors lately... but nothing worth really reporting quite yet. I know this is off topic here so I won’t go any further in to it. Just kind of curious. 

The epg guide data is worth $5 per month just by itself I agree 100% it is one of the best features a media server can offer :)

[canada99 9]

On 1/24/2021 at 1:41 AM, cayars said:

No we get our guide data directly from the #1 guide provider.

It's not a 2nd level or tiered service.

Guide data will always have certain little things that can drive you nuts.  Season/Episode numbers that don't match meta-data providers (who is correct?).
A Premier status for a movie that's older and has been shown on another station
etc

The Providers are always at the will of the stations feeding them data, just as we are to them.

However for things like missing stations, wrong channels or glaring EPG issues we can notify them to help them get the issue resolved so feel free to post these issues as we pay big bucks for this data and want it to be good as possible.

Post such issues here: 

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/forum/182-emby-guide-data/

Big bucks for guide data then look for a new coder I know people can do it for cheap ;) will even add watch party to emby

[canada99 9]

On 1/2/2021 at 7:23 PM, shinebar said:

I was a hardcore fan of emby but now I've decided to move to plex. The client support on emby is not cool! You shouldn't put trial limit on you Firetv emby. Except that, everything else is gold.

YOU will be back see you soon

[Carlo 4560]

1 hour ago, canada99 said:

The epg guide data is worth $5 per month just by itself I agree 100% it is one of the best features a media server can offer

 

1 hour ago, canada99 said:

Big bucks for guide data then look for a new coder I know people can do it for cheap will even add watch party to emby

So what exactly are you saying?
Emby isn't going to supply scraped data but only legal data that it acquires legally and they choose the best provider there is.

It's not really a matter of the coder at all as the provider has a good API to use but it's about the cost to acquire the data to be legal and deliver a great solution for anyone in the regions supported.

[canada99 9]

9 minutes ago, cayars said:

 

So what exactly are you saying?
Emby isn't going to supply scraped data but only legal data that it acquires legally and they choose the best provider there is.

It's not really a matter of the coder at all as the provider has a good API to use but it's about the cost to acquire the data to be legal and deliver a great solution for anyone in the regions supported.

You could get the guide data legally for free of charge from the actual providers, if you had a free tv setup for people with legal free over the air channels and allowed the providers of the EPG advertising on a platform they would do the work for you. I would not pay the guys for guide data like emby is doing now, no way. Just setup a normal sized live tv platform with a hundred or so channels and have the cable networks advertise and cut out the middle man Emby is well known enough by now to draw in the big fish providers, be smart

Edited February 22, 2021 by canada99

[canada99 9]

If I was lucky enough to own the rights to emby I would have HBO along with other big networks, working with them to maximize the outcome for all parties. Emby is bigger than you might think! Streaming is now become HUGE for everyone, there is no competition for emby whatsoever period. Plex has faded into the background and they will stay there, you have guys like Luke online 24/7 as well as many others helping with trouble shooting to issues not even related to emby or the server that still get answered (resolved). Perfect track record on help forums. Go Bigger and make it happen .. https://www.hbo.com/ad-choices

https://advertising.hulu.com/contact-us/

I would be contacting all and every company that I could think of that could benefit emby and go from great to greatest !

Need help in advertising ? I can do it and then some, I would contact everyone as that is what I do for a living

[Carlo 4560]

9 hours ago, canada99 said:

You could get the guide data legally for free of charge from the actual providers, if you had a free tv setup for people with legal free over the air channels and allowed the providers of the EPG advertising on a platform they would do the work for you. I would not pay the guys for guide data like emby is doing now, no way. Just setup a normal sized live tv platform with a hundred or so channels and have the cable networks advertise and cut out the middle man Emby is well known enough by now to draw in the big fish providers, be smart

You should try and have a chat with the guide providers and you'll see that getting guide data for free is nothing but wishful thinking. If you distribute it to others your "commercial" and it's gonna cost you.  Heck even if you run a free server you can't get guide data for free. The closest you'll get is having your customers get the data themselves at a "discount" for free servers and that is what Schedules Direct is about and created for. That will still cost the customer $3/month or a little over $2 a month on a yearly plan.

You can't run your own ads over top Live TV. The only way to do that is to control the stream themselves and then of course you have to have content rights which is a much bigger issue and more costly then guide data and if you don't run their ads and want pure streams it's really gonna cost ya. You could of course partner with a service already doing this like Crackle which is what the orange media server did.

A lot of people have switched over to our platform because they don't like this type of thing and DO NOT want it built in. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are users who would welcome additional content even if it came with ads if they have control over it.  This of course could be done via Emby plugins.

Live TV with your own ads would be even easier to integrate because you could integrate your results with many different platforms by suppling an m3u and xml file. That would be a very simple way that would just work.  So get busy with your idea sourcing all this free stuff. 

[ebr 16169]

Hi.  Thanks for the kind words but we have no interest in moving to an advertising model.  We wish to remain  your personal media server.  Thanks.

[arx237 10]

46 minutes ago, ebr said:

We wish to remain  your personal media server.

 

I was a long time paid plex user until they switched up to trying very very hard to force you to use their dumb@$$ plextv login and hide local login capability. Being locked out of your own server when the interwebs goes down is incredibly frustrating. I was not a fan of where they were heading on the privacy and security front either. 

The lifetime membership to Emby has been totally worth the expense, WAF is high, kids can easily use it, management is darn easy and uses higher quality images than plex. 

Fulfill that feature request for bulk editing metadata and it might be pretty perfect. 

 

Good luck OP, there are other free ones I would jump on first before ever moving back to plex.

[tdiguy 99]

Its funny there is so much talk over this. I bought a lifetime emby subscription over a year ago now. Its well worth the money. There is nothing out there that is free that does what emby does. The closest competition is plex and even there if you want it to do what emby charges for they charge for it as well. The differance is support. The guys here at emby actually provide prompt informative support. Not only that they listen to customer suggestions and i have seen many of the suggestions posted in the suggestions / features thread actually make it into the build. They really dont ask for a lot of money in the grand scheme of things.

[Mookdog 90]

Heck I been using emby for a little over 2 months and decided to buy a lifetime sub. Can't go wrong. I appreciate the devs of this incredible app