Multipart movies... sorry... What am I missing?

[Marc_G 95]

Hi folks,

Sorry for what is definitely not a unique problem, but my searching for answers hasn't quite yielded the solution.

I'm setting up my Lord of the Rings extended version movies. Finally got around to ripping them. I searched about naming and got this:

https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159102-movie-naming

 

Based on that I'm naming my movie files for example:

FOLDER: Lord of the Rings

Subfolder: THE LORD OF THE RINGS- THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001) -Extended edition -part1

File: THE LORD OF THE RINGS- THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001) -Extended edition -part1.mkv

 

Subfolder: THE LORD OF THE RINGS- THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001) -Extended edition -part2

File: THE LORD OF THE RINGS- THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001) -Extended edition -part2.mkv

 

So, example complete path to a file:

\\server\The Lord of the Rings\THE LORD OF THE RINGS- THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001) -Extended edition -part1\O:\The Lord of the Rings\THE LORD OF THE RINGS- THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (2001) -Extended edition -part1.mkv

 

For the two movies I've ripped so far, I would expect them to show up as similar but distinct entries in Emby, one noted as part  one and the other noted as part 2. But both show up identically without any notation about which part of the movie they are. I've started a new collection called Lord of the Rings but since there's no distinction between the two movies I'm unsure how to proceed. I'd like to make sure I follow proper conventions before ripping the rest of the disc set.

Clearly I'm missing something obvious... please help.

 

 

 

[Marc_G 95]

Refining my search I got this:

 

 

But I'm not sure that answers my question. This seems to relate to "how to treat a multi-part (as in multi-file) movie as a single movie" whereas I want to treat multipart films as separate films, just denoting that one part is the first half and the other part is the second half. Like, tonight we would watch "part 1" and tomorrow we would watch "part 2" so expected behavior would be on the poster and such, there would be an indication of what part of the movie it is (and ideally, the plot details would describe what happens in part 1 for the first one, and what happens in part 2 for the second one).

This can't be an unusual use case... am I missing something?

 

 

[ebr 16185]

Hi.  The metadata providers do not consider these items two different things.  They are only split apart due to technical limitations of the physical media they were originally delivered on.

The best approach it to combine the two of them into one file and then have it be one movie as seen in the theater.  If, instead, you do want them to look like separate films, then you can set them up that way and just edit the metadata (titles, posters, whatever) so that they appear differently.

[Marc_G 95]

9 minutes ago, ebr said:

Hi.  The metadata providers do not consider these items two different things.  They are only split apart due to technical limitations of the physical media they were originally delivered on.

The best approach it to combine the two of them into one file and then have it be one movie as seen in the theater.  If, instead, you do want them to look like separate films, then you can set them up that way and just edit the metadata (titles, posters, whatever) so that they appear differently.

Stitching them together... would that best be done with MKVToolnix?  I used to be up on all these tools but lately haven't needed to work so hard.

 

If I do decide just to treat it as one film with two parts, do both part files go into the same folder, and then when the movie plays, it just seamlessly jumps from one part to the next?

 

[ebr 16185]

Look up mkvmerge.

22 minutes ago, Marc_G said:

If I do decide just to treat it as one film with two parts, do both part files go into the same folder, and then when the movie plays, it just seamlessly jumps from one part to the next?

Yes but you will limit your functionality doing it that way (things like chapters and resuming, etc.) and there is really no good reason to keep them as separate files.

[speechles 2055]

Nostalgia. The good 'ol VCD and SVCD days. When 55 minutes was about what you could get on a disc. There was a good reason for doing this as it made spanning media onto spindles of CD's very convenient. But in the era of hard drives and solid state drives using them is like using a horse and buggy to get to and from the market. There is not much use in keeping them separate anymore unless you are still burning these onto CD-R and watching them on your DVD player from the bygone era.

The gain in merge them is chapters, full resume points, ability to see the full runtime, and easily access versions. None of these work correctly with spanned media any longer. Times are changing. You need to change with them.

Edited December 21, 2020 by speechles

[Marc_G 95]

OK, I will check to see if I've got MKVtoolnix on my computer and merge them. While I'm at it I can set default subtitles to show, if I can figure out which track should show

Edited December 21, 2020 by Marc_G

[Marc_G 95]

Just to cap this topic off, I did as recommended, and appended the parts to make a full-length copy of the movies from the two parts each. I used MKVToolnix-GUI; in case folks haven't done this before, and to  document it for next time I need to look it up ( ) you open the first part in toolnix, then right click on it in the list of input files. Choose Append from the menu that comes up, and choose the second part.  Set the output filename and start muxing.

 

[Luke 42080]

Thanks for the feedback.

[Kiss239 0]

Hi, everybody.

A few weeks ago I've started to use Kodi on NAS AsusTor AS6404T.

After tests of medialibrary and good results I've started to find solution to share medialibrary to all the devices in home network.

I've found two solutions: Kodi on all devices + network-shared files (SMB) + network-shared librart (MySQL) and Emby with client Apps

Yesterday I've started to try Emby and found that it can't recognize multipart movies. It makes some crap like "versions" and "additional parts" (as marked on the first attached img).

The solution to merge movie parts is only good if it doesn't involve:

1. Films that was only produced in several parts (like this or this or this)

2. Films that was produced both in the form of several episodes for TV and full-length for cinemas (like this or this)

Same as Emby, Kodi can recognise files with "part1", "part2" e.t.c. in names but Kodi automaticly merge them under one cover in medialibrary and play parts as full-length film (as on the second attached img).

At the same time real merging of files makes some troubles with seeding of downloaded torrents (either you have to store both downloaded and merged copy or you can't seed thems at all).

So, can anybody help to all us with solving that problem or it will be more comfortable to stay on Kodi with MySQL?

[Spaceboy 2573]

If you want them to work properly in emby you need to merge them. If you don’t want to merge them, kodi 

[Luke 42080]

We will get there with full support for multi-file videos, but even once that happens, we still suggest joining the files for the best possible experience.