Direct play algorithm to lowest quality, (Multiple Version)

[gokuz 13]

Just now, crusher11 said:

Because that's what "limit" means, FFS. 

Yes its a limit for transcoding which is not the issue. I would like to get direct play lowest quality.

[pünktchen 1409]

The real problem is you want two contrary things. On the one hand you want to direct play higher bitrate movies, on the other hand you are moaning about mobile data usage when Emby chooses to direct play the better quality tv episodes that are perfectly under your max. bandwith limit and only have half of the bitrate of your movies. That doesn't makes any sense. What's more important for you? Data usage or quality? It's one or the other and will determine if it transcodes or direct plays.

[crusher11 1101]

30 minutes ago, gokuz said:

Yes its a limit for transcoding which is not the issue. I would like to get direct play lowest quality.

It's a limit for data transfer. 

[sooty234 266]

Ok, so let's understand the parameters that you want.

Where you have multiple versions, you want the server to detect when something is being played on a mobile device and automatically choose the the lowest bitrate version? Is that correct? And you would like an option in the user config to enable that? Is this correct? 

[gokuz 13]

1 hour ago, pünktchen said:

The real problem is you want two contrary things. On the one hand you want to direct play higher bitrate movies, on the other hand you are moaning about mobile data usage when Emby chooses to direct play the better quality tv episodes that are perfectly under your max. bandwith limit and only have half of the bitrate of your movies. That doesn't makes any sense. What's more important for you? Data usage or quality? It's one or the other and will determine if it transcodes or direct plays.

Looks like another compromise solution. Paying monthly is nothing now.

Edited December 1, 2020 by gokuz

[gokuz 13]

1 hour ago, crusher11 said:

It's a limit for data transfer. 

That's the other option, where you have to type the limit. So no, that's not data transfer.

Edited December 1, 2020 by gokuz

[gokuz 13]

1 hour ago, sooty234 said:

Ok, so let's understand the parameters that you want.

Where you have multiple versions, you want the server to detect when something is being played on a mobile device and automatically choose the the lowest bitrate version? Is that correct? And you would like an option in the user config to enable that? Is this correct? 

You can leave out the detect mobile part. See the title of this post 

[sooty234 266]

But as your main concern is mobile data, that would be the only way to achieve what you want. If you had a user that had a device at home and mobile devices that roamed on mobile data, you can't apply the same logic cover both scenarios in the way that you want. You'd have to differentiate. The current system certainly can't do it, even though you think it can.

Edited December 1, 2020 by sooty234

[gokuz 13]

4 minutes ago, sooty234 said:

But as your main concern is mobile data, that would be the only way to achieve what you want. If you had a user that had a device at home and mobile devices that roamed on mobile data, you can apply the same logic cover both scenarios in the way that you want. You'd have to differentiate. The current system certainly can't do it, even though you think it can.

If you had read through the whole thread, you would know you can already do that now. Its called home network quality and internet quality.

 

Its just the 2 versions seems to be broken. As someone who likes emby and supports its, Hope emby fixes it, this flaw is too great 

Edited December 1, 2020 by gokuz

[sooty234 266]

Right, but that's an in app setting. Tell your users how to set them and you should have what you want. But I was understanding that you wanted to do this at the server level. No?

[gokuz 13]

Just now, sooty234 said:

Right, but that's an in app setting. Tell your users how to set them and you should have what you want. But I was understanding that you wanted to do this at the server level. No?

No, please read through. i gave illustrations to make it as clear as possible. Seems like you didn't read any.

[sooty234 266]

Oh but you're talking about remote users, right? Then the in network setting doesn't apply to them.

[sooty234 266]

Just now, gokuz said:

No, please read through. i gave illustrations to make it as clear as possible. Seems like you didn't read any.

I have, and you think it can do something that it can't.

[gokuz 13]

Just now, sooty234 said:

Oh but you're talking about remote users, right? Then the in network setting doesn't apply to them.

Ok you're basically trolling right now, give a solution or try not to troll.

[Happy2Play 9780]

If dev/admin and users are just trolling in your opinion, then obviously no one truly understands what you what Emby to do that it currently does not do.

[gokuz 13]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

If dev/admin and users are just trolling in your opinion, then obviously no one truly understands what you what Emby to do that it currently does not do.

Its just him.

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 minute ago, gokuz said:

Its just him.

But you said the exact same thing to Luke the Admin/Dev.  So obviously there is miss communication and understanding of what you expect.

[gokuz 13]

3 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But you said the exact same thing to Luke the Admin/Dev.  So obviously there is miss communication and understanding of what you expect.

No, i didn't call anyone else a troll. Stop putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Can you honestly read his comments and tell me he's not trolling.

Edited December 1, 2020 by gokuz

[crusher11 1101]

Literally nobody understands what you want, dude. 

[Luke 42077]

I understand what he wants, but we just don't have a way to vary the quality setting based on what you're playing.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Just now, gokuz said:

Can you honestly read his comments and tell me he's not trolling.

Personally I would say no because I truly don't understand the process you are wanting.  I could ask and re-ask all the same questions and thoughts.

[gokuz 13]

Just now, Luke said:

I understand what he wants, but we just don't have a way to vary the quality setting based on what you're playing.

Thanks for clarifying. Hope you do this in the future then.

[GrimReaper 4739]

I think I get what he wants, a "breachable" bandwidth limit: if multi-version media has a version with bitrate lower than the limiter - direct play that one, if not - direct play lowest one, even if it is above threshold. 

[gokuz 13]

4 minutes ago, crusher11 said:

Literally nobody understands what you want, dude. 

 

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Personally I would say no because I truly don't understand the process you are wanting.  I could ask and re-ask all the same questions and thoughts.

Try to read the thread if you don't understand. Luke does. And i hope this gets implemented in the future. This flaw is honestly quite bad.

[gokuz 13]

1 minute ago, GrimReaper76 said:

I think I get what he wants, a "breachable" bandwidth limit: if multi-version media has a version with bitrate lower than the limiter - direct play that one, if not - direct play lowest one, even if it is above threshold. 

Thank you. This is exactly it.