Unaired is used when show is streamed?

[speechles 2055]

A streaming show is always unaired. The word "Future" would be better. The TV apps use future.

[Carlo 4561]

Good catch.

Doesn't "Unaired" just mean it was never broadcast on normal TV?  If so that would apply to streaming only shows or direct to disc shows. Having "Future" to me would indicate it's planned on being broadcast on a TV network in the future so I'm not sure I personally like "future" as is now being used.

There are many shows no longer being produced that have episodes that never aired for one reason or another and these of course are "unaired" in the truest sense of the word but are available on disc and maybe streaming sites.

I totally get what you're saying and do like this concept to differentiate these episodes!  But I think Emby should find a different word than "future" for this. If we know it's a non-broadcast show, maybe "Streaming" would/could be used for these types of shows???

Given the choice of only "unaired" or "future" I'd personally rather see unaired simply because it has never been aired/broadcast on TV.

 

[speechles 2055]

On the Roku it uses a green bar and labeled as future. The red bar is labeled as missing.

On Web app it is just a single red bubble with a white label showing missing or unaired inside. The color of unaired should not be red as there is nothing wrong or missing..yet. They should be green so you know it is okay. They are missing but there is a reason (unaired) and it is okay so they show as green. That is why future is green on Roku. Shouldn't unaired be green?

How about simply "Unavailable" instead of "Unaired". The episode/title whether it be aired or streamed is not ready to be viewed yet. In all aspects it is presently "Unavailable" that is how the streaming services all handle these future episodes/titles.

Edited November 13, 2020 by speechles

[Carlo 4561]

Unavailable would indicate you don't have the episode IMHO but Unaired means the episode was never broadcast.  Regardless if you have the episode or not wouldn't have anything to do with it being unaired.

[speechles 2055]

Define "unaired" and which continent we are discussing and you will see where "unavailable" is the term the industry is presently using. Unavailable because it hasn't aired in that geography or has no plans to air in that geography. TVDB will disappear. No need to follow their dates any longer.. yawn.

Not to mention why are they red when unaired?

Edited November 13, 2020 by speechles

[Carlo 4561]

Just personal, but to me "unaired" means an episode or film that has never been broadcast on a TV network.  So for example you can get movies on disc or TV Shows of season but will often/sometimes have an episode or two that never aired for some reason.  I remember back around 911 and Boston bombing some taped episode were never aired due to circumstances in real life but were still made available on disc.  Just one example why something may never air.

Unavailable or Missing to me is the option you turn on in Emby to show you episodes that you don't have but are part of the series.

Would you agree with that or have a different take?  I'm sure these terms can mean different things to different people especially in different parts of the world.  I'd just suggest whatever wording Emby uses that it's consistent in all apps and web. I personally don't care what the terms themselves are.

[Happy2Play 9782]

The Web Client has shown Unaired for all Future episodes your years.  Unaired to me is Future not aired yet episodes.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Happy2Play

[speechles 2055]

But why is it red? You notice that and go oh no it is missing. But it isn't as there is no way to obtain it..yet. It should be green. Green means okay. Red means problem.

Edited November 13, 2020 by speechles

[Carlo 4561]

Right for any episode that never aired.

[Carlo 4561]

I believe Green means the episode is present in the system and Red means the episode is not present.

[Happy2Play 9782]

Just now, speechles said:

But why is it red? You notice that and go oh no it is missing. But it isn't there is no way to obtain it. It should be green.

No I read it as one says Missing and the other says Unaired, in two place (depending on the view you are in when you see it.  But at one time I believe they were orange.

Also you have to enable other options to see these unaired episdoes like you have shown.

[Happy2Play 9782]

But yes comparing the Roku to the Web Client they do display different test so I can only assume this came from Android as web client has alway been Unaired.  So to me all other clients would be wrong.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Happy2Play

[speechles 2055]

In the TV apps they have banners. The missing is red with the word missing. The future is green with the word future. The banners appear on the right.

On the web app they have red round oblongs with white text. The missing is red with the word missing. The future is red with the word unaired. The oblongs appear on the left.

 

That is the inconsistency.

Edited November 13, 2020 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9782]

Yep Web is correct and TV is wrong if it were up to me.

But another pissing contest to make everything identical like the other guys.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Happy2Play

[speechles 2055]

12 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Yep Web is correct and TV is wrong if it were up to me.

@Luke @ebr Which side wins TV or Web? Do they just continue to battle and we check later? I am fine with that and not that concerned but in doing work on some things you always notice what is different in trying to make things consistent. Right now busy doing cards. I notice that banner thing versus that rounded oblong always when doing stuff with cards. It is one of the more glaring inconsistencies.

It only affects people who turn on missing/future episodes. I prefer to tell by glance without needing to squint hard to read the word. I would prefer them green for future and red for missing. Seriously. I have Multiple Sclerosis and my eye sight on my right eye is horrible (left side of body/right side of brain). I am right side dominant which makes it worse. Reading text on the screen needs to be larger. The text on those banners is very very tiny. I need them red or green to tell which is which. I literally sit 2 feet away from the PC screen when coding and use wordpad because it has the best contrast. I still squint to tell those web app oblongs apart is it missing or future...

Edited November 13, 2020 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9782]

To me green would be wrong as it is already used as a count/played indicator.

[Carlo 4561]

This is from Android ATV:

This shows the episode broadcast yesterday as missing and shows next week's episode as FUTURE.

Here is the web view of these episodes

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Same for episode 5 as MISSING but different for the other episodes.

To me web is wrong.  Technically it's unaired but the ATV shows this best as FUTURE since the episode hasn't been released yet.

I like:
Missing - Episodes that are available but missing from the show
Future - Episodes that are schedule to be released in the "future"
Unaired - Episodes that have been released but were never broadcast and remain "unaired".

So I think all apps are wrong.