jglazer63 22 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 Most of my TVs have an emby app. Samsung, LG, Toshiba, but none of them can be set to bring up emby at power-on. I am looking at adding a raspberry pi to all of these for this reason which is sad since it would be cheaper/easier to use the apps but they differ slightly and not being able to load them at boot is stupid. Does any one have any alternative suggestions to deal with this? Thanks!
speechles 2055 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) The Roku ultra has the buttons labeled 1 & 2. 2 buttons users can self teach and can be programmed with voice commands. You can say "Launch Emby" and tie that intent/action into button 1. On the Roku enable HDMI-CEC to control your TV. That is it. Now when you want to turn on the TV and launch Emby just press 1 on the Roku remote. It will turn on the TV, change input to the Roku, and launch Emby. You press 1 button. Not sure if any other devices offer this convenience. This is an emerging behavior that more devices may pick up. You might also get a Google Home or Amazon Alexa. There are extensions for both to use Emby with voice commands. Then you just need to speak your intent. The device runs off your intent and builds actions. Those actions get sent to your various apps on various platforms. Emby can exist within this and you just speak your intent. There are several ways to do this without going old school pi. Edited October 10, 2020 by speechles
ebr 16185 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 Hi. This is a function of the devices' systems as opposed to Emby. I'd actually be surprised if such a facility were ever officially supported by them as it would bypass their ability to show you all the other apps available. But, if one of them does support this, I'm sure our app should work with it. In the meantime, a smart remote with some sort of macro may be able to accomplish it...
jglazer63 22 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 Thanks #speechles, I have a number of Logitech Harmony remotes that I could program to do this as a macro but it requires the user to patiently point the remote at the devices and wait till all are turned on. Not a bad idea though.
jglazer63 22 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ebr said: Hi. This is a function of the devices' systems as opposed to Emby. I'd actually be surprised if such a facility were ever officially supported by them as it would bypass their ability to show you all the other apps available. But, if one of them does support this, I'm sure our app should work with it. In the meantime, a smart remote with some sort of macro may be able to accomplish it... Yea, I knew it was the device and not Emby. It's just an unfortunate lack of foresight or desire to provide a function that, I think, most users would utilize.
ebr 16185 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, jglazer63 said: It's just an unfortunate lack of foresight or desire to provide a function that, I think, most users would utilize. I'm sure they think so too... which is why they don't offer it
speechles 2055 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jglazer63 said: Thanks #speechles, I have a number of Logitech Harmony remotes that I could program to do this as a macro but it requires the user to patiently point the remote at the devices and wait till all are turned on. Not a bad idea though. The Roku ultra remote is WiFi-direct. It alleviates the problem of pointing. It also has a nice "find remote" feature with multiple sound effects to beep at you when the remote goes lost. It is a nice feature. WiFi-direct remote >> Roku Ultra >> HDMI-CEC >> TV ON >> Roku Ultra detects TV on changes input to Roku and starts Emby Edited October 10, 2020 by speechles 1
vdatanet 1617 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Using Nvidia Shield 2019, you can set menu button to open Emby. Using HDMI-CEC, when you press menu button, TV is turned on and Emby is started. Edited October 10, 2020 by vdatanet
jglazer63 22 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, vdatanet said: Using Nvidia Shield 2019, you can set menu button to open Emby. Using HDMI-CEC, when you press menu button, TV is turned on and Emby is started. Yea going the PI route would be much cheaper I think. Cool device though.
speechles 2055 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, vdatanet said: Using Nvidia Shield 2019, you can set menu button to open Emby. Using HDMI-CEC, when you press menu button, TV is turned on and Emby is started. There we go. The band wagon does indeed have more devices supporting this. The future is so cool. I love the future.
speechles 2055 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, jglazer63 said: Yea going the PI route would be much cheaper I think. Cool device though. Yep. All other factors are not equal. Price is always the mitigating factor in any decision. Price versus convenience. Is the juice worth the squeeze? (girl next door reference).. but it works here. The PI isn't locked down to any particular ecosystem. It is truly agnostic. The Roku is agnostic but you are locked into their ecosystem. You can't get sudo/su. On a PI you can and that means the world. You can do anything.
speechles 2055 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jglazer63 said: Yea, I knew it was the device and not Emby. It's just an unfortunate lack of foresight or desire to provide a function that, I think, most users would utilize. Imagine the bidding war for those buttons on Roku. Netflix throws boatloads of cash at Roku. Bargeloads? Amazon must too to keep that Amazon Prime Video button on the Roku remote. That is why those 4 buttons change on the Roku to different applications. Only recently has Roku allowed users to train the newly added and only exists on Roku Ultra remotes 1 & 2 buttons. They replace the old-school A & B gaming buttons Roku remotes used to have. Gaming is being phased out on Roku and requires older Roku units to participate in that. So Roku is dead focused on streaming. No games about it. Pun intended. But this is why they do not offer the ability. They will to their partners first and start a bidding war. Allowing users a button "for free" they can program to do whatever they want is very low on the return on investment. While the partner buttons score very high on ROI. It becomes better to tell shareholders we added these partner buttons. They will roll their eyes you tell them about the "for free" buttons. While the "for free" buttons sell devices they do not help sell streaming advertising from Roku. Unless you tie one of those 1/2 buttons to the launch the Roku channel. Then Roku wins all the way around. Some people don't mind this and are part of the system. When we use Emby we aren't part of the economics system of Roku. Roku isn't gaining (read as forcing) advertising revenue (..yet? * **) from streaming through Emby. Because of this you cannot ask them to make exceptions for Emby. The chance of that happening is slim to none. 4 nanometers is how slim that chance is. This is why it is hard to find ways to do this on these streaming boxes. It just isn't in their best interest. * .. they certainly can at any point shovel advertising into streams and force Emby to do so at any time. Be forewarned. We are playing on their playground. They make the rules. Let this be clear as glass. We are just pawns in this. In the last 3 weeks there have been 3 changes to Roku developers terms of service (signalbeacons, episodeguide, rokuadvertising) that affect advertising, tracking and who must. So far we are clear of being forced to do this advertising. So far. Roku DOES see signal beacons when you play items. They are sending signal beacons from within the Emby app. We do not know what those signal beacons send as payload. Just be aware. Roku forces these beacons.</full disclosure> ** read along here: https://blog.roku.com/developer/2020/10/09/channel-certification-criteria-updates-october-2020 Edited October 10, 2020 by speechles
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, ebr said: In the meantime, a smart remote with some sort of macro may be able to accomplish it... I have found that my Harmony remote with a hub (Harmony Ultimate with Hub) is an indispensable part of my home entertainment system. It gives me full control and it does not really matter what device I am using. That is I can program the Harmony so any device I choose will automatically launch any app I choose on that device. I usually do not automatically launch an app but I can if I choose. By linking that with Alexa I can simply say something like "Alexa, launch Emby on my (Shield TV, Fire TV, Roku or any of a few other devices) and my Harmony turns on or of devices as needed and switches inputs and sets everything up for me. I can pretty easily add/replace devices and use said devices in my setup. This gives me full control of all my devices without depending on separate functionality in each device. BTW: Although I "can" I do not have to write macros to make this functionality happen. I have found nothing that even approaches the functionality of my Harmony Ultimate Hub. One more thing: My remote itself started malfunctioning about a year ago and became frustrating to use but that mattered very little as the Harmony app on my Android tablets and on my phone replace the physical remote very well. It is really the hub that does all the fancy stuff and the various Harmony apps work fine for the control. I was using the apps for most of the time long before the physical remote started failing. The "trick" in using a home entertainment system well is to make it easy and comfortable to use and having my Harmony as the remote control accomplishes that with ease.
clarkss12 304 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 When I try to us a "voice" function for "EMBY", it comes up MB.......
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, clarkss12 said: When I try to us a "voice" function for "EMBY", it comes up MB....... From that very limited statement I do not really know what you mean but the original name for "Emby" was "Media Browser."
speechles 2055 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, clarkss12 said: When I try to us a "voice" function for "EMBY", it comes up MB....... Yeah. It believes you are spelling even though there is no word starting with "MB..." I know on Roku you can say "Emby app" and it understands correctly with app attached.
clarkss12 304 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, speechles said: Yeah. It believes you are spelling even though there is no word starting with "MB..." I know on Roku you can say "Emby app" and it understands correctly with app attached. I will try that. thanks
ebr 16185 Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 3:37 PM, clarkss12 said: I will try that. thanks On Android TV I believe the phrase "Emby for Android TV" is the most likely to get the proper response.
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