[BUG] Back to home goes to top.

[gokuz 13]

To replicate, (Note the Z alphabet in TV show)

1. Go to My Media> TV Shows > Zany (2054) 
2. Play an episode for 1 second (JUST 1 Second)
3. Now go back, Zany (2054) > TV Shows
4. TV Shows automatically shoots back up to A, WTF
5. Now I have to painfully scroll back down to Z or press the Z button at the side

Tried it on,

1. iPhone
2. Android
3. Web browsers

How do i solve this problem.

 

[Luke 42077]

Hi there, we'll take a look at this. Thanks for reporting.

[Carlo 4560]

7 hours ago, gokuz said:

To replicate, (Note the Z alphabet in TV show)

1. Go to My Media> TV Shows > Zany (2054) 
2. Play an episode for 1 second (JUST 1 Second)
3. Now go back, Zany (2054) > TV Shows
4. TV Shows automatically shoots back up to A, WTF
5. Now I have to painfully scroll back down to Z or press the Z button at the side

Tried it on,

1. iPhone
2. Android
3. Web browsers

How do i solve this problem.

 

Hi,

I've tried to replicate this but it works perfectly fine for me.  I don't have Zany, but have Zoo TV show which is a Z.

For me when exiting it goes right back to the detail page I started playing it on.

Tried with Web Browser (chrome & Firefox), Android Mobile, Android TV, Roku & Theater.

Any chance you could take a screen shot of the page you start playing with in the web browser?

 

[Happy2Play 9780]

Step 2 needs to be more specific. Play episode from where (enter season, next up row).

But pretty sure it is reproduceable from a Series standpoint.

Enter TV library

navigate to any series down the list

enter season folder and play a episode

stop episode and back out to the library

This is the only way I was able to reproduce, playing episode for series next up row did not produce the same results.

[Carlo 4560]

Could you reproduce it on a web browser as well that way Happy2Play?

I just tried again the way you mention in ATV with .27 server and it just backs out to where I was and not jumping back to the beginning of the series list.

We must be doing things differently.

[pwhodges 2012]

I have noted what I thought was a recent change, that in the web client the season episode list automatically scrolls so that the next unwatched is on the screen, and that it also does this on return from playing.  This behaviour is working for me in the web client and also the Android and iOS clients.  However, the Roku client does not do this.

Going back from the series screen to the main library, it is always repositioned at the start, regardless of what I have just visited or played.

If I play an episode from the next up row on the series screen, then on return going back skips the library contents screen altogether and goes straight to the home screen; I don't know if this is recent behaviour, because I never normally use the next up row (it's another thing I wish I could just get rid of!).  In contrast, playing the next up episode straight from the library listing does not do this, but returns to the library listing as expected.

(Server and clients all latest beta at time of writing).

Paul

[speechles 2055]

hmmm... Let us take a look and see why the Roku is doing it different. The expected behavior is what the web app does the Roku does. Let us investigate. Thanks for the report.

There are several ways to navigate and each rebuild/refresh their view indepedently. This is what causes the disparity. Apologies. Some of the navigation methods presently lack rebuild/refresh. That season screen is notably one lacking this. We will see what we can do on this. I have added it to the issue tracker so this isn't lost.

 

Reference: Issue #939: Refresh on some views not properly using JumpToItem to move to Up Next item

 

 

[gokuz 13]

10 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

This is the only way I was able to reproduce, playing episode for series next up row did not produce the same results.

Yup, you have to enter the Seasons first.

 

11 hours ago, Luke said:

Hi there, we'll take a look at this. Thanks for reporting.

Hope this gets fixed as this doesn't happen on jellyfin. I assume they fixed it. Maybe you can see their source code since its open source. 

[Carlo 4560]

5 hours ago, pwhodges said:

If I play an episode from the next up row on the series screen, then on return going back skips the library contents screen altogether and goes straight to the home screen; I don't know if this is recent behaviour, because I never normally use the next up row (it's another thing I wish I could just get rid of!).  In contrast, playing the next up episode straight from the library listing does not do this, but returns to the library listing as expected.

(Server and clients all latest beta at time of writing).

Paul

I can't get it to do this either.  If I click the next up row (not in seasons) and start to play then click the back arrow top left in the OSD it takes me right back to the show with the next up row which is right where I started playing from.

I get the same thing when I go into the season and start playing an episode and exit.

I wonder what is different between our systems?  Are you logged in directly to your system or going through connect?

[pwhodges 2012]

Huh...  I can't now reproduce the going-back-too-far behaviour.  I suppose it might have been a browser caching issue shortly after updating the server, or something along those lines.  Sorry for the noise!

Paul

[Swynol 375]

i sort of have this issue. doesnt happen on web browser, only noticed it on ATV

If i view a tv series or movie then back out to the list of movies, and then press back again it jumps to the top of the movie list rather than backing out to the main menu.

I found that some remotes were almost double keying back so in effect was pressing it twice. so backing out of a movie it was then jumping to the top of the list. had to set delays on my remote

[Carlo 4560]

28 minutes ago, Swynol said:

i sort of have this issue. doesnt happen on web browser, only noticed it on ATV

If i view a tv series or movie then back out to the list of movies, and then press back again it jumps to the top of the movie list rather than backing out to the main menu.

I found that some remotes were almost double keying back so in effect was pressing it twice. so backing out of a movie it was then jumping to the top of the list. had to set delays on my remote

That's a feature that was asked for.  By going to the top of the list you can get to the menu items on that page quickly!

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 hour ago, cayars said:

That's a feature that was asked for.  By going to the top of the list you can get to the menu items on that page quickly!

Backing out of any item should return you to the point you entered, no matter what and platform should be irrelevant.  If anyone wants something different then I would think that has to be optional or your will get this issue of one wants it this way and other wants it that way.

[Carlo 4560]

Happy2Play this was asked for specifically to solve a problem.  With a large library and you want to get to the menu it's very difficult having to scroll all the way up (could be thousands of rows).  Hitting the back key takes you to media item 1 so now you can get to the menus quite easily.  If you want to back out it's just a 2nd back push.

It does in fact take you back to the starting position.

So in ATV for example in a big library the first BACK takes you BACK TO THE BEGINNING of the list,  From there you can go BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SCREEN or easily get to the menus up top.

If we try to change this there will be a riot in ATV land.  Likely me leading the charge!  LOL

The ATV app has a few things like this that really enhance navigation and why you'll read things like the new beta mobile needs the ATV features before it's usable for them.  Some of those things are stuff like this.

[speechles 2055]

The Roku does this same thing. Pressing back on the grid from anywhere but the first position returns you to the first position. After you wind up at the first position another back press takes you out from the grid and back to where you were before you got there. The first place you wind up on the grid is first position. Pressing back when anywhere but first position on the grid should take you to first position, not exit the grid. Otherwise how do you quickly access those top view tabs? You press up repeatedly? Instead press back once and up once then BAM you are at the view tabs. This is to minimize button presses. The goal is keep users from having to repeatedly press buttons. This is the intended design.

Edited September 17, 2020 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

But back to a specific user set dictating function for entire Emby eco system.

But backing out of anything should return to the point of entry.

Edited September 17, 2020 by Happy2Play

[Carlo 4560]

16 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But backing out of anything should return to the point of entry.

Why?  If you're 1 thousand rows down in a list of movies and you want to change tabs what do you do?

I hit BACK, then UP which is super easy.

Without this functionality the next easiest way is EXIT the screen and re-enter the library which is nasty to get to the tab.

The alternative is 1001 UP (or hold button if you can) button presses to get to the tabs.

If I truly want to EXIT the library I just hit BACK, BACK again which is easy.

Best of all around functionality that way.  Once you've used this functionality for a half hour you'll wonder how you got along without it!  It's kind of like hitting the HOME button in a web page and jumping back to the top.

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 minutes ago, cayars said:

Why?  If you're 1 thousand rows down in a list of movies and you want to change tabs what do you do?

Well then there should but a jump to top option somewhere.  So flip the same question.  What if I want to back out of say Rush Hours and want to go to S.W.A.T next when they are actually side by side in the list.  Backing out of Rush Hour take me back to top instead of allowing me to select S.W.A.T.

I would always think backing out of any item would return you to point of entry not somewhere else.  This same issue was resolved when editing metadata.

[speechles 2055]

Lets say you have Rush Hour 1 and 2.

On the grid the two are right next to each other way down in the R. You enter Rush Hour 1.. watched it. On the detail view press back. You go back to the grid where you were. Not to the top. The only time back takes you to the top is when you are _already_ on the grid. So enter Rush Hour 1.. watched it.. press back.. Go right to Rush Hour 2 right next to it.. Back only puts you back to top when you press back when already on the grid. When entering the grid from a back key press this does not take you to the top it leaves you where you were. Does that help explain?

Edited September 17, 2020 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

33 minutes ago, speechles said:

Lets say you have Rush Hour 1 and 2.

On the grid the two are right next to each other way down in the R. You enter Rush Hour 1.. watched it. On the detail view press back. You go back to the grid where you were. Not to the top. The only time back takes you to the top is when you are _already_ on the grid. So enter Rush Hour 1.. watched it.. press back.. Go right to Rush Hour 2 right next to it.. Back only puts you back to top when you press back when already on the grid. When entering the grid from a back key press this does not take you to the top it leaves you where you were. Does that help explain?

I haven't tested movies only episodes so far and steps in post 4 take you to top when backing out of episode playback.  But assume client specific as I am only testing web client.

Edited September 17, 2020 by Happy2Play

[Carlo 4560]

On 9/15/2020 at 5:16 AM, gokuz said:

To replicate, (Note the Z alphabet in TV show)

1. Go to My Media> TV Shows > Zany (2054) 
2. Play an episode for 1 second (JUST 1 Second)
3. Now go back, Zany (2054) > TV Shows
4. TV Shows automatically shoots back up to A, WTF
5. Now I have to painfully scroll back down to Z or press the Z button at the side

Tried it on,

1. iPhone
2. Android
3. Web browsers

How do i solve this problem.

 

Can you supply us with the versions for:

Emby Server & platform

Android Client Version

Logged in directly or via Emby Connect for web browser?

[Carlo 4560]

1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

I haven't tested movies only episodes so far and steps in post 4 take you to top when backing out of episode playback.  But assume client specific as I am only testing web client.

Are you using the back button in the OSD or the back button from the browser itself?

[Happy2Play 9780]

2 hours ago, cayars said:

Are you using the back button in the OSD or the back button from the browser itself?

Does not matter in my tests, but only place in beta that has a back arrow is on the OSD then all other areas require browser back arrow.  But using the OSD back arrow and UI back arrows in stable provide the same result in any series from episode playback.

[Carlo 4560]

I've tried to reproduce this a number of ways in a browser and just can't do it.

This is one of those times when it's helpful to see it being done.

[caalin 67]

23 hours ago, cayars said:

Happy2Play this was asked for specifically to solve a problem.  With a large library and you want to get to the menu it's very difficult having to scroll all the way up (could be thousands of rows).  Hitting the back key takes you to media item 1 so now you can get to the menus quite easily.  If you want to back out it's just a 2nd back push.

It does in fact take you back to the starting position.

So in ATV for example in a big library the first BACK takes you BACK TO THE BEGINNING of the list,  From there you can go BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SCREEN or easily get to the menus up top.

If we try to change this there will be a riot in ATV land.  Likely me leading the charge!  LOL

The ATV app has a few things like this that really enhance navigation and why you'll read things like the new beta mobile needs the ATV features before it's usable for them.  Some of those things are stuff like this.

Thanks, I hate it, I never use those tabs. It drives me crazy when I've scrolled down on the episode list and I try to back out to the previous view.

A better implementation would have been long press on BACK taking you directly to those tabs. You don't need the long press for home when you're in a library view