Abobader 3464 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, cayars said: I did and feel free to test away. Why don't you try testing this live my first modifying this message. Then delete it. I should get two notices that way correct? Thanks buddy, we do not need more testing, but yes: When I modify your post/thread, you will get notify. When I delete your post/thread, you will get notify. It per action if it done: one action at a time that apply save, then do do another action ... etc. Notify will apply to a members on mod's action in all, also a notice to mod's team, no need to leave a ghost link for moving a thread (as some call moving link) any more.
Carlo 4560 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 I'm not "special", just ask my friends. LOL I'm not a mod or anything like that on the forum, just a normal user.
Abobader 3464 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gilgamesh_48 said: I will also volunteer to be used for testing just in case there is some difference between the way it works for a "special" person like @cayars and just a regular user like I. Many thanks. You all special to us buddy.
Abobader 3464 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, cayars said: I'm not "special", just ask my friends. LOL I'm not a mod or anything like that on the forum, just a normal user. You are indeed "Support" as within the Emby personal, hmm, I need to do something later about that group.
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, Abobader said: Notify will apply to a members on mod's action in all, also a notice to mod's team, no need to leave a ghost link for moving a thread (as some call moving link) any more. Actually I think when posts are moved there is a need to leave behind a "link" or other notice of some king that leads to the location they have been moved to. Otherwise people that saw but did not respond to a post that got moved will not know where to find it in the future. That is not needed for deletions or edits but I do feel it is needed for moves.
ebr 16169 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gilgamesh_48 said: Actually I think when posts are moved there is a need to leave behind a "link" or other notice of some king that leads to the location they have been moved to That actually makes a bit of a mess of things. The only time we move a topic is when it is in the wrong area. Leaving a link to it just adds to the future confusion of where the topic belongs. Plus, it is easy to accidentally delete the whole topic by trying to delete the link. We shouldn't be selecting the option to leave a link IMO.
Carlo 4560 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Abobader said: You are indeed "Support" as within the Emby personal, hmm, I need to do something later about that group. Agree, the whole point is to move it out of a thread or section of the website to keep it clean and organized. Just notify to person who posted it that their message was moved.
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, ebr said: That actually makes a bit of a mess of things. The only time we move a topic is when it is in the wrong area. Leaving a link to it just adds to the future confusion of where the topic belongs. Plus, it is easy to accidentally delete the whole topic by trying to delete the link. We shouldn't be selecting the option to leave a link IMO. If not a link then at least a note, that expires after a day or two, so that people do not lose a post they are interested in. I have a bit more faith in your and the moderators ability than to think you need to protect yourselves from deleting a thread when trying to delete a link. But I was thinking more about when a whole thread gets moved than about when a post within a thread gets moved.
ebr 16169 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gilgamesh_48 said: But I was thinking more about when a whole thread gets moved than about when a post within a thread gets moved. So am I. If we ever move a thread it is because it is in the wrong place which, many times, means it is confusing things in the place where it is. Leaving a link to it just furthers that confusion (now it looks like it is in two places and the OP doesn't know any better as to where it should be).
softworkz 5066 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) I see it exactly the same. The only moderation thing I ever do from time to time is to split out posts from users hijacking a conversation saying "me too" even though having a different problem. The user should be notified about his posts having been moved, but keeping a link would only make other users still think that the issues are connected. Edited August 17, 2020 by softworkz
Carlo 4560 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 We've never left links or markers behind in the past so why start?
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, ebr said: So am I. If we ever move a thread it is because it is in the wrong place which, many times, means it is confusing things in the place where it is. Leaving a link to it just furthers that confusion (now it looks like it is in two places and the OP doesn't know any better as to where it should be). My suggestion about leaving just a note that expires after a day or two pretty much covers that as if the poster goes looking in the original place they only find a note and have to actually go to the new location to read or post more.
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 I see I am not going to win this argument but @cayars "that is the way it has always been done" is a poor argument. It is often use to block progress and is one of the phrases that inhibit innovation more than almost any other.
Carlo 4560 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 I understand what you may be thinking but in this case I think it's the right thing AND happens to be how it was previously handled. So I'd turn it around and say we presently do not leave markers, so convince us why a marker (left over) for something being cleaned up should be there. Sell us or Adobader as he put it to the forum for comment. I don't know if a "temp marker" is even possible in IPS so it might be a non conversation if we can't do it.
softworkz 5066 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 I don't think that the forum software even provides such a feature at all, so it's most likely talk about nothing.
Gilgamesh_48 1240 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, cayars said: I understand what you may be thinking but in this case I think it's the right thing AND happens to be how it was previously handled. So I'd turn it around and say we presently do not leave markers, so convince us why a marker (left over) for something being cleaned up should be there. Sell us or Adobader as he put it to the forum for comment. I don't know if a "temp marker" is even possible in IPS so it might be a non conversation if we can't do it. 10 minutes ago, softworkz said: I don't think that the forum software even provides such a feature at all, so it's most likely talk about nothing. And those are exactly why I am giving up. It is not really important to me so I am not going to spend any more time or energy fighting the inevitable. I will save my fights for things that really matter to me.
Abobader 3464 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 Good day, Well, the mod's/admin's team when we upgrade to this new build from IPS, notify on mod's action not part of IPS, so they some times force to leave a ghost link for moving thread. Now we do not need it since the notify action will inform the user about it. Just for the info, we can make the settings for ghost link goes after some like 1 days or so, now it setup to be like 30 days, I will change that if @ebr wanted so to like a day or so, BUT, I am with Ebr here about not leaving ghost (moved link), and the notify will be just fine to inform the users whom threads been moved. My best
Abobader 3464 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 @cayars Please as test, start new thread in this forum, I want to test something regarding the mod's action notify, thanks.
Abobader 3464 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 Thanks @cayars and @ebr for testing, well done.
Happy2Play 9780 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 @Abobader How are Split posts treated when they are out of someone else's topic into say their own. as softworkz mentioned above?
softworkz 5066 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Happy2Play said: @Abobader How are Split posts treated when they are out of someone else's topic into say their own. as softworkz mentioned above? I never do this without immediately replying in the new split-out conversation. The poster automatically becomes the OP in the new conversation and as such, he should also receive a notification about my reply. Though, I don't know what would happen without replying in the new topic - Abo?
Happy2Play 9780 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, softworkz said: I never do this without immediately replying in the new split-out conversation. The poster automatically becomes the OP in the new conversation and as such, he should also receive a notification about my reply. Though, I don't know what would happen without replying in the new topic - Abo? But split posts to new topics are not automatically followed, that is why I always tag the person I split into a new topic. So can the system auto notify the person in the new topic when that person did not make the topic?
softworkz 5066 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Happy2Play said: But split posts to new topics are not automatically followed, Oh - I thought they are. When you are sure, that's good to know, then!
Happy2Play 9780 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 Here is a example if needed. Unless something has changed since then. https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/88698-audiobook-support
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