SOLVED: Dubbed TV Show Not Showing In Library

[BigJazzz 0]

EDIT: I have resolved this issue. Please see the last post.

 

Hey guys

 

I've had a look and can't seem to see anyone who's had this particular issue, but if they have please point me in their direction.

 

I'm moving over to Emby from Plex. I have three different versions of Sailor Moon: the DiC dub, the VIZ dub, and the Japanese sub. The DiC dub was heavily edited so has less episodes than the original Japanese version (and is a season short), however VIZ have dubbed the full series, including the undubbed season.

 

What I'm noticing is that only one version of Sailor Moon is showing in Emby, and I can't seem to see even different versions of the same episode. The folders are named separately and the files are following the same naming conventions. Plex would show the DiC dub as a separate show, but would merge the VIZ dub and the original Sailor Moon as they were identical except for the language audio.

 

How do I get all four shows to show up in Emby? I'm willing to edit NFO files if necessary. Also, if you require further information, please let me know.

 

Cheers

 

Folders:

 

 

Emby Library:

 

Edited April 23, 2020 by BigJazzz

[pwhodges 2012]

I don't have multiple versions of Sailor Moon, so I can't comment directly, but I do have a lot of anime including some tricky ones.  

 

My policy is to name shows strictly as TVDB requires, and this has normally served me well.  However, recently TVDB has become less reliable.  For instance, it used to distinguish correctly between versions of Space Battleship Yamato and Star Blazers, but recently I found (when I did a rescan) that it has lost the details of one version completely; in this case I found the correct details on TMDB and used Emby's manual "identify" function to force fetching of the metadata from there instead.  What is not clear to me is why Emby went with a poor (mis)match on TVDB rather than going on to find a better match on the next metadata source in the list.

 

I also don't enable the option to merge series that are spread across multiple folders.

 

In summary, consider that the fault might not be solely with Emby, but also with the online metadata (which might have been correct when Plex searched for it).

 

Paul

[BigJazzz 0]

Hey Paul

 

Thanks for that info. I've had some trouble with TVDB, as they won't allow me to create a separate DiC-dubbed entry for Sailor Moon, given how different it is (I argued with them, and their response was "Too bad, so sad."). I'll try TMDB and see how I go there.

 

Where is that option? I had a look, but I'm brand spanking new to Emby, so I'm struggling to find my way around.

 

Plex added the DiC dub without meta, and then I manually went through and updated the information and posters. In this case though, my issue is that the DiC dub isn't even showing as an option to manually do that.

[BigJazzz 0]

Quick update: TVDB shows a few more options than TMDB does, but neither of them show the DiC version, nor the VIZ dub version.

[pwhodges 2012]

Hmm.  Other options:

 

(1) Install the Anime plugin (go to the Plugins entry in the dashboard menu and look around).  I don't use this, as I've never found it necessary, but I understand it adds more sources for anime information (things like MAL, etc), so it might at least enable you to force an identification through one of them.

 

(2) Name the original and Viz versions of each episode identically, but with the addition of " - original" or " - Viz dub" at the end of the name.  Emby will then show these as one item of which you can select one or the other to play (but if you just play without going to the information screen, Emby will make its own decision based on quality).  This doesn't solve the DiC dub issue, though

 

(3) Find or create a version with both the Japanese and Viz dubs which you can select at time of playing.  This also doesn't solve the DiC dub issue though.

 

Re the DiC dub:  I would expect that if you have it in a completely different folder, with a different name, Emby would set it up, but probably wrong.  You could then go through and replace the wrong metedata with your own, as you did in Plex.  A pain, but that's how it is, I guess.  Of course, if the Anime plugin adds a source which identifies it, then all is good!

 

Paul

 

PS - I wouldn't expect any source to identify the original and the Viz dub separately, if they're using the same video; after all much anime comes with two (or more) dub tracks.

Edited April 21, 2020 by pwhodges

[BigJazzz 0]

1) Got the plugin going, but no dice.

 

2) I've changed S01E01 of both versions, but unless I'm missing something it's not showing at all.

 

3) If I could add my own bloody show, point it to the right folder, and manually edit the metadata, I would. These are the lenghts I'm willing to go to make this work! 

 

Cheers for the update though. I'm sure somehow I'll figure it out. 

[BigJazzz 0]

Oh wow. That took a few clicks for me to find the versioning! Ok, so it's merged the sub and VIZ dubs together, which I can deal with. However, it's also pulled the DiC dub in as well, which obvioulsy isn't what I wanted.

 

I've renamed the DiC folder, but it's still referencing the old folder name for some reason. I'll see if I can flush the cache somehow.

[pwhodges 2012]

After renaming a folder you need to wait a while for it to detect the change.  But I'd suggest you need to make episode names distinct as well - e.g. "SM_DiC_s01e01" to ensure that Emby doesn't line them up with what it had previously detected, even if the folder's changed.

 

Keep at it - you'll find the magic action in the end.

 

Paul

 

Edit: PS, I'm just downloading the DiC version to try it out.

Edited April 21, 2020 by pwhodges

[Luke 42079]

 

 

fter renaming a folder you need to wait a while for it to detect the change. 

Or run a library scan.

[BigJazzz 0]

After renaming a folder you need to wait a while for it to detect the change.  But I'd suggest you need to make episode names distinct as well - e.g. "SM_DiC_s01e01" to ensure that Emby doesn't line them up with what it had previously detected, even if the folder's changed.

 

Keep at it - you'll find the magic action in the end.

 

Paul

 

Edit: PS, I'm just downloading the DiC version to try it out.

Yeah, that's my next step. Thank god I have a bulk rename utility.

[BigJazzz 0]

Or run a library scan.

I've done the "Scan Library Files" multiple times, and it still referenced files that no longer existed, or a folder name that I had then changed. O.o

[BigJazzz 0]

So I renamed the DiC folder to SM DiC Dub, renamed the files to SM DiC Dub SXXEXX, and... I'm so confused. Is it because it's still in the Anime folder? O.o

 

I'm also not sure why it's cutting off the first letter.

 

Edited April 22, 2020 by BigJazzz

[pwhodges 2012]

Are the folders containing your versions all together in an over-arching "Sailor Moon" (or something) directory which is not the library's base directory?  Because then I think they will contnue to be combined.  That combining is the reason for the odd naming of the versions - multiple versions are listed from the first character which is different.  So when Emby combines "Sailor Moon..." and "SM..." only the "S" gets left out.  Make sure the folder containing the DiC version is in your library's base folder, and things may start to come together (or rather, apart!) for you.

 

Paul

Edited April 22, 2020 by pwhodges

[pwhodges 2012]

OK, I've confirmed that having the DiC version in a separate first-level folder makes it separate.  It gets identified as the normal version, so I get two identical entries in the library.  I then edit the series metadata to change the title to say "Sailor Moon (DiC dub)", so that I can tell which is which.  I could also change the primary image so that the difference is more obvious.

 

But of course the episodes of the DiC dub are identified wrongly.  May I suggest a way to get the descriptions right, in the absence of any online help?  Find a list of the correspondences between the DiC dub and the original episodes and rename the DiC episodes using the numbers of their originals (as you will be increasing the numbers, do this starting from the last so that you don't keep getting clashes with existing numbers!) - keep the original number in brackets after the episode title to avoid losing your place, which will be OK as the "s01enn" version will be used by Emby.  The last episode corresponds with the last two of the original, so you should number it "s01e45-e46" which combines the two descriptions.  That way you get largely right metadata, though with "wrong" episode numbers - which I suppose you could edit back if you wanted.

 

Paul

[BigJazzz 0]

I really appreciate the help you're giving me mate. You're a champ.

 

Are the folders containing your versions all together in an over-arching "Sailor Moon" (or something) directory which is not the library's base directory?  Because then I think they will contnue to be combined.  That combining is the reason for the odd naming of the versions - multiple versions are listed from the first character which is different.  So when Emby combines "Sailor Moon..." and "SM..." only the "S" gets left out.  Make sure the folder containing the DiC version is in your library's base folder, and things may start to come together (or rather, apart!) for you.

 

Paul

So the folders are all in the base Anime folder. They're all separate.

 

OK, I've confirmed that having the DiC version in a separate first-level folder makes it separate.  It gets identified as the normal version, so I get two identical entries in the library.  I then edit the series metadata to change the title to say "Sailor Moon (DiC dub)", so that I can tell which is which.  I could also change the primary image so that the difference is more obvious.

 

But of course the episodes of the DiC dub are identified wrongly.  May I suggest a way to get the descriptions right, in the absence of any online help?  Find a list of the correspondences between the DiC dub and the original episodes and rename the DiC episodes using the numbers of their originals (as you will be increasing the numbers, do this starting from the last so that you don't keep getting clashes with existing numbers!) - keep the original number in brackets after the episode title to avoid losing your place, which will be OK as the "s01enn" version will be used by Emby.  The last episode corresponds with the last two of the original, so you should number it "s01e45-e46" which combines the two descriptions.  That way you get largely right metadata, though with "wrong" episode numbers - which I suppose you could edit back if you wanted.

 

Paul

I really don't know what I've done, because I'm still getting them merged all into one.

 

 

I've even gone so far as to remove the Anime library, make sure the folders and episodes are renamed, then readded the library, all to reach the same point.

 

I wonder if deleting the NFO data for each series will help? Maybe there's something in there that's causing it to merge the data. Edit: This did the trick, apparently!

Edited April 23, 2020 by BigJazzz

[BigJazzz 0]

Good news! I fixed it up! I merged the dub and sub into the one folder, using the " - [extra data]" method.

 

Paul, I honestly can't thank you enough for your help and patience, you've been a godsend!

 

[BigJazzz 0]

If you're having a similar issue:

 

Merge the different versions into one folder, and add " - [version info]" to the end of the file name.

Clear out the .nfo files, and refresh the metadata (identifying the show if required)

 

If you want to keep a version separate, rename the folder to something not closely related to the main folder name

Delete any current .nfo files

Scan the library

Find the new item in Emby

Edit Metadata, and change the show name -> Scroll to the bottom and lock the metadata

Edited April 23, 2020 by BigJazzz

[pwhodges 2012]

Well done!  I don't use .nfo files, so I often forget to consider them...

 

Paul