PGS-Subtitles

[ArnoRoggo 1]

It seems like 4K-movies only have PGS format subtitles. Every hardware player sends the decoded signal to the TV. Why can't the Emby player do that?

[Luke 42078]

Most devices don't support PGS subtitles, that's why they require video transcoding.

[ArnoRoggo 1]

ANY hardware player that plays 4K can also read PSG. Or not?

Again: 4K movies all have PSG subtitles. So it would be nice if Emby did something for the new age.

[neik 873]

Iirc the 4k FireTV cannot read PGS's although it plays 4k files.

 

Does clients which read PGSs play them just fine, e.g. Mi Box or Shield TV.

[ArnoRoggo 1]

I was not talking about the TV, but about the DVD / BD player. And that Emby doesn't want to know anything about the age of 4K subtitles (= PSG).

[ebr 16184]

Iirc the 4k FireTV cannot read PGS's although it plays 4k files.

 

Yes it can - as long as everything else about the content is direct- playable.

 

 

I was not talking about the TV, but about the DVD / BD player. And that Emby doesn't want to know anything about the age of 4K subtitles (= PSG).

 

No streaming media has subtitles in this format and that is why most streaming devices don't support them.

[ArnoRoggo 1]

If we were talking just about streaming films, everything would be fine. Then an Emby player would be enough.

Now there are still the bought and ripped films for which Emby offers a database system. It is unfortunate that the administrators close their eyes.

[Luke 42078]

It is unfortunate that the administrators close their eyes.

 

We're not closing our eyes, we're just telling you what the devices support and what they don't support.

[Deathsquirrel 745]

If you use PGS subs you're going to be limited to certain client devices or dealing with transcoding.  I know, I use them all the time.  Device support for that format is pretty limited but I haven't had much trouble with the Android TV client on my shields, and none at all with Emby Theater.  I expect Kodi would also handle them but I'm not installing that thing on my PC.

 

SRT subs have much better support, in general, with client devices.

[ArnoRoggo 1]

Dear "Advanced Member": I would ALWAYS like to use SRT subs. But the 4K discs ONLY have PGS subs. OK?

 

Dear Mr. Bazinga: Initially, I thought Emby was a system to be developed. I understand now, that you are not interested in communicating the matter to your developers.

 

Have a nice time. I will no longer contact you.

[Luke 42078]

Why do you feel this is an Emby problem?

[ArnoRoggo 1]

I want no longer be contacted. Please respect that.

[pwhodges 2012]

Why do you feel this is an Emby problem?

 

He is conflating the Emby app on a device with the device itself, I presume.

 

Paul

[Deathsquirrel 745]

 

Dear "Advanced Member": I would ALWAYS like to use SRT subs. But the 4K discs ONLY have PGS subs. OK?

 

Dear Mr. Bazinga: Initially, I thought Emby was a system to be developed. I understand now, that you are not interested in communicating the matter to your developers.

 

Have a nice time. I will no longer contact you.

 

 

No discs come with SRT subs.  You have to either create them or download them.  This is true for all disc formats.  They all come with graphical subs instead of text subs.

 

Literally everyone who rips media has to deal with this.

 

[Happy2Play 9780]

Since most players are not DVD/Blu Ray players they do not support graphical subtitle.  So Emby does the only thing is can, it burns the subtitles in.

[ebr 16184]

Although, as stated previously, many of our apps do support them - as long as the rest of the characteristics of the media allow direct play.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Although, as stated previously, many of our apps do support them - as long as the rest of the characteristics of the media allow direct play.

 

Is this documented anywhere?

[ebr 16184]

Is this documented anywhere?

 

Yes but it just isn't as simple as a checklist (like a marketing spec sheet).  There are so many variables involved - but the gist is what I said - as long as the device can direct play the item, the PGS subs are supported on Android TV, Fire TV and Theater (and I'm pretty sure the mobile apps as well).