Can I add a channel to the live TV guide?

[rykr 11]

I am in a situation with HD Homerun primes where channel 1002 is present on the wire but will not scan using the channel scan.  Is there some way I can manually add the channel (even if I have to directly edit some config file) until SD can fix the scan issue?

 

Thanks

[ebr 16185]

Hi.  You could using an .m3u file but are you positive it will tune?

[rykr 11]

Hi.  You could using an .m3u file but are you positive it will tune?

 

 

100% positive.  I can use vlc to tune it with .5 - 1 second.  The SD folks say they have others who are reporting that a particular channel here in the Nashville area will not come through the scan.  They are looking into it.  I'm just looking for a way to use the channel until they fix that.   I know I can use tvheadend+kodi since I can control the muxes/services there but Emby/Plex/Channels all get their channel lineup from the tuner which is not accurate right now

 

Are there steps on a wiki somewhere showing how to use a m3u file?  I happen to have those

[rykr 11]

100% positive.  I can use vlc to tune it with .5 - 1 second.  The SD folks say they have others who are reporting that a particular channel here in the Nashville area will not come through the scan.  They are looking into it.  I'm just looking for a way to use the channel until they fix that.   I know I can use tvheadend+kodi since I can control the muxes/services there but Emby/Plex/Channels all get their channel lineup from the tuner which is not accurate right now

 

Are there steps on a wiki somewhere showing how to use a m3u file?  I happen to have those

 

I found https://github.com/M...ki/wiki/Live TV which apparently talks about it.  Will being an m3u tuner cause slowdowns in tuning speed, etc?

[Luke 42080]

No it should work just fine.

[rykr 11]

No it should work just fine.

 

 

I added a couple of m3u files but the guide data will not map to it. Same channel numbers. I can manually map it but there are lots of channels

[ebr 16185]

I added a couple of m3u files but the guide data will not map to it. Same channel numbers. I can manually map it but there are lots of channels

 

I thought you just needed this one channel added...

[rykr 11]

I thought you just needed this one channel added...

 

 

 I do. I didn't think I could add just one channel via m3u.  not sure how that would work.  if I add two more tuners that are both m3u having just the tone channel then I could run out of tuners

[ebr 16185]

 I do. I didn't think I could add just one channel via m3u.  not sure how that would work.  if I add two more tuners that are both m3u having just the tone channel then I could run out of tuners

 

I'm not sure I understand your concern about running out of tuners but, yes, you just add a .m3u file with the one channel in it (pointing to your HDHR tuner).  Then you have your HDHR tuner plus the m3u one with the one additional channel in it.  Emby will then combine those seamlessly.

[rykr 11]

I'm not sure I understand your concern about running out of tuners but, yes, you just add a .m3u file with the one channel in it (pointing to your HDHR tuner).  Then you have your HDHR tuner plus the m3u one with the one additional channel in it.  Emby will then combine those seamlessly.

 

 

Each one of my primes can tune 3 streams at once.  So if I add a m3u file containing just the single channel I would list the stream limit as 1.  So let's say a user starts watching 1002 and it uses the m3u tuner to tune it.  That will use one of the 3 streams on that prime but the actual prime tuner in emby will still have zero on use and will attempt to use all 3 if users ask to tune channels thereby running out of tuners by 1 (on each device).

[ebr 16185]

Each one of my primes can tune 3 streams at once.  So if I add a m3u file containing just the single channel I would list the stream limit as 1.  So let's say a user starts watching 1002 and it uses the m3u tuner to tune it.  That will use one of the 3 streams on that prime but the actual prime tuner in emby will still have zero on use and will attempt to use all 3 if users ask to tune channels thereby running out of tuners by 1 (on each device).

 

Not sure I understand still.  You will still be able to stream 3 distinct channels from that tuner.

[rykr 11]

Not sure I understand still.  You will still be able to stream 3 distinct channels from that tuner.

 

 

As I understand your point, I would have 4 tuners setup in emby.  Two of them for the prime each of these having a stream limit of 3.  And two m3u tuners (one for each prime and each having a single channel with a stream limit of 1).   That makes a "virtual stream limit" of 4 mapping to a physical device that can only do 3 streams.  What am I missing?

[rykr 11]

As I understand your point, I would have 4 tuners setup in emby.  Two of them for the prime each of these having a stream limit of 3.  And two m3u tuners (one for each prime and each having a single channel with a stream limit of 1).   That makes a "virtual stream limit" of 4 mapping to a physical device that can only do 3 streams.  What am I missing?

 

Maybe what you are saying is that Emby will discover that the physical tuner is out of tuners on it's own.

[ebr 16185]

Maybe what you are saying is that Emby will discover that the physical tuner is out of tuners on it's own.

 

Correct.  The only reason we implemented the limit in Emby was for m3u tuners where there wasn't any other way to determine if a tuner was "available".

[rykr 11]

Maybe what you are saying is that Emby will discover that the physical tuner is out of tuners on it's own.

 

Let's walk it through again.   

 

I have the tuners setup like I said above. 

a) User A starts watching 1002 on a tv.   Physical tuner 1 engaged.

. User B starts watching 1017 on a tv.  Physical tuner 2 engaged.

c) User C starts watching 1201 on a tv. Physical tuner 3 engaged.

 

== at this point the tuner is completely out of physical tuners and cannot start another stream but Emby might think there is room for one more.  Remember the prime tuner in Emby has a stream limit of 3 and in the above scenario only 2 of those are being used.===

 

d). System requests to start recording show on 1301.  Emby could do two things here -- it could "think" there is a tuner left since the prime tuner stream limit has not been reached and when the recording fails just throw error or it could roll over to the second prime. not sure what Emby does here

[rykr 11]

Let's walk it through again.   

 

I have the tuners setup like I said above. 

a) User A starts watching 1002 on a tv.   Physical tuner 1 engaged.

. User B starts watching 1017 on a tv.  Physical tuner 2 engaged.

c) User C starts watching 1201 on a tv. Physical tuner 3 engaged.

 

== at this point the tuner is completely out of physical tuners and cannot start another stream but Emby might think there is room for one more.  Remember the prime tuner in Emby has a stream limit of 3 and in the above scenario only 2 of those are being used.===

 

d). System requests to start recording show on 1301.  Emby could do two things here -- it could "think" there is a tuner left since the prime tuner stream limit has not been reached and when the recording fails just throw error or it could roll over to the second prime. not sure what Emby does here

 

ok.  I get it.  Thanks.

[ebr 16185]

In your case (all hardware tuners) you can leave the limit set at the default of 0 and just let Emby do its thing.

[rykr 11]

ok, so I added two m3u tuners each having 1 channel.  For my prime 1 and one for prime 2. Now have 1002 listed twice as a channel.  Is this right?

[ebr 16185]

Since we cannot pool .m3u tuners I would suggest just adding it once but you can do two if you wish (they could be in the same file though I think).

[rykr 11]

Since we cannot pool .m3u tuners I would suggest just adding it once but you can do two if you wish (they could be in the same file though I think).

 

 

ok.  the only issue there is you can get in a situation where it won't tune.   let's say I choose prime-A for my m3u file and then all 3 tuners are in use for prime A, then emby has no way to tune the channel even though prime-B might have available tuners.  maybe there is nothing that can be done about that. just making sure I know what is going on.