NR rating can be misleading

[pwhodges 2014]

I have a user who is restricted to a max rating of GB18.  I was surprised to see that a couple of films were blocked for them, and on investigation found that they had an NR rating - removing this made them visible.

 

Now, I understand that the principle is that an NR film might have stuff in that should be highly restricted, but equally, it might not (as in my cases).  As this is a kind-of undefined status, would it be possible to have a flag (by user, perhaps) to enable ignoring this status independently of other restrictions?

[Theodore 136]

I have a user who is restricted to a max rating of GB18.  I was surprised to see that a couple of films were blocked for them, and on investigation found that they had an NR rating - removing this made them visible.

 

Now, I understand that the principle is that an NR film might have stuff in that should be highly restricted, but equally, it might not (as in my cases).  As this is a kind-of undefined status, would it be possible to have a flag (by user, perhaps) to enable ignoring this status independently of other restrictions?

 

I have a few of these myself - mostly older cartoons that don't have a rating also. I just set the "Custom Rating" field (just below "Parental Rating" in the metadata editor) to an appropriate value and it shows up in the list but still shows the official "NR" on the movie page.

[ebr 16191]

I have a few of these myself - mostly older cartoons that don't have a rating also. I just set the "Custom Rating" field (just below "Parental Rating" in the metadata editor) to an appropriate value and it shows up in the list but still shows the official "NR" on the movie page.

 

This would be my suggestion because these situations really need to be handled on a case-by-case basis.  Our global treatment should err on the side of caution (as it does).

[pwhodges 2014]

I understand - and I guess that as it's possible to filter by rating to pick the NR items out, there's not much benefit in my suggestion.  Applying an implicit rating to unrated media was just a new concept to me, that's all.

 

But is there a real difference between an NR rating and a blank rating field?  I mean, what's the difference between "not rated" and not rating at all?

[ebr 16191]

But is there a real difference between an NR rating and a blank rating field?  I mean, what's the difference between "not rated" and not rating at all?

 

Many DVD releases back in the day had a "Not Rated" version with, ahem, extra scenes put back in the movie.  These scenes were usually to be avoided by younger audiences .

[Theodore 136]

I understand - and I guess that as it's possible to filter by rating to pick the NR items out, there's not much benefit in my suggestion.  Applying an implicit rating to unrated media was just a new concept to me, that's all.

 

But is there a real difference between an NR rating and a blank rating field?  I mean, what's the difference between "not rated" and not rating at all?

 

Strictly speaking, the "Not Rated" or "Unrated" classification was used when the film - or at least that version of it - had not been submitted to or approved by a ratings agency (such as the MPAA in the US).

[speechles 2055]

Just like the X rating on some films actually just means they did not fit the normal category. Now it implies usually ultra violent or graphic sex scenes. But before it was given to the porn/fetish industry it was used to give ratings to films that "the industry" refused to give ratings. It wasn't for lack of trying. The big studios could try to keep you out of the normal theater chains just branding you an X. There were alot of X in the early film era. Now X still has the same meaning it doesn't fit the category but destroyed by sex/fetish porn. Emby treats X the same whether innocent 1940's film or hardcore porn. This is the same issue as NR.

Edited October 10, 2019 by speechles

[Theodore 136]

Just like the X rating on some films actually just means they did not fit the normal category. Now it implies usually ultra violent or graphic sex scenes. But before it was given to the porn/fetish industry it was used to give ratings to films that "the industry" refused to give ratings. It wasn't for lack of trying. The big studios could try to keep you out of the normal theater chains just branding you an X. There were alot of X in the early film era. Now X still has the same meaning it doesn't fit the category but destroyed by sex/fetish porn. Emby treats X the same whether innocent 1940's film or hardcore porn. This is the same issue as NR.

 

Which honestly I think it is fair that Emby treats it that way. While most of your specific collection may have NR or UR as innocuous films, you really don't want to take the chance that one could make it through to an inappropriate audience.

[pwhodges 2014]

Which honestly I think it is fair that Emby treats it that way. While most of your specific collection may have NR or UR as innocuous films, you really don't want to take the chance that one could make it through to an inappropriate audience.

 

But films without a rating do get through - and while most of mine in that category are innocuous, there's a couple which aren't.  I don't need to worry about that, but if I did I guess I'd need to apply my own rating in those cases.

[Happy2Play 9783]

But films without a rating do get through - and while most of mine in that category are innocuous, there's a couple which aren't.  I don't need to worry about that, but if I did I guess I'd need to apply my own rating in those cases.

The only way for that to happen is you did not enable "Block items with no or unrecognized rating information:" options for the user.

[pwhodges 2014]

Ah - I hadn't connected that up in my mind....  Fortunately the default is only to block trailers (for whatever reason I cannot work out), but obviously it can be used as a blunt instrument to meet the case I mentioned!

[Theodore 136]

Ah - I hadn't connected that up in my mind....  Fortunately the default is only to block trailers (for whatever reason I cannot work out), but obviously it can be used as a blunt instrument to meet the case I mentioned!

 

That is where the custom rating comes in. I am really, REALLY, anal about making sure that all metadata is as correct as possible even going so far as to build my own XML files with actors and information scraped from IMDB before adding it to Emby. With that in mind, I make sure that any titles that go in with NR or UR as the rating also get a custom rating - and if I don't then @@ebr and @@Happy2Play suggestion for the setting of block unrated content comes in to play as a fall back.