knowenoughtobedangerous 6 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 I've noticed multiple examples of artists being shown twice in the Album-Artist view of my music library. It's very consistent: clicking on one icon, the one with an image of the artist, reveal an entry as one would expect - a list of the albums for which that artist is cited as the album-artist in the mp3 tags, plus a list of the albums they 'also appears on'. ie where they are named on one or more tracks of the album, but not all; a compilation album, typically. clicking on the other icon, which has no image, shows a list of the compilation albums as being that artist's own albums and nothing for 'appears on' The second icon must be created by a fault, surely?The vews are consistent across Android, iOS and web clients and Emby Theatre. Server is on a QNAP box, but I doubt that is relevant. Latest versions of software at the time of posting in all cases.
Happy2Play 9783 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 What server version? I am seeing this issue on Beta server. I can assume the mucicbrainzid is wrong for that named artist also correct?
Happy2Play 9783 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Lets use Frank Sinatra. First image is correct with proper musicbrainz id. https://musicbrainz.org/artist/197450cd-0124-4164-b723-3c22dd16494d The second image This has a musicbrainz id linked to "Gordon Jenkins & His Orchestra" https://musicbrainz.org/artist/64c72ce2-b246-43f0-b859-8a92e93dce9f And the third This has a musicbrainz id linked to "Nelson Riddle" https://musicbrainz.org/artist/4308fdc4-7f8a-42f0-aaea-a8b397da5e3c But I am only seeing this in beta. Edited October 6, 2019 by Happy2Play
knowenoughtobedangerous 6 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 server version 4.2.1.0 yes in one example the good entry points to https://musicbrainz.org/artist/57fca0e2-f9ad-4ae6-af9d-6a6f50cbcd5f the bad one to https://musicbrainz.org/artist/815977a2-f424-4e10-bac6-0992b0a1afb6 or good https://musicbrainz.org/artist/ad79836d-9849-44df-8789-180bbc823f3c bad https://musicbrainz.org/artist/834d46fc-045a-47ff-b110-82fe3713f7d8
Happy2Play 9783 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) What is your folder structure? If I am correct as I am seeing this issue with additional folder nesting. @@Luke is this do to folder structure? /music /Frank Sinatra /Frank Sinatra, orchestra conducted by Gordon Jenkins /No One Cares (1959) /music /Frank Sinatra /Frank Sinatra, orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle /Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely (2008) Technically the musicbrainz id is correct just the wrong linked AA. Edited October 6, 2019 by Happy2Play
Happy2Play 9783 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) server version 4.2.1.0 yes in one example the good entry points to https://musicbrainz.org/artist/57fca0e2-f9ad-4ae6-af9d-6a6f50cbcd5f the bad one to https://musicbrainz.org/artist/815977a2-f424-4e10-bac6-0992b0a1afb6 or good https://musicbrainz.org/artist/ad79836d-9849-44df-8789-180bbc823f3c bad https://musicbrainz.org/artist/834d46fc-045a-47ff-b110-82fe3713f7d8 Your issue appear to totally different then what I am seeing so you may need to provide more information. You have Person and Group, and Person and Artist musicbrainz ids. To me this would point specifically to the embedded metadata. Edited October 6, 2019 by Happy2Play
knowenoughtobedangerous 6 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) in my case, the albums are in regulation (?) structure good: /music/mediamonkey/vangelis/Odyssey: The Definitive Collection/ bad: /music/mediamonkey/various/Chilled Ibiza - CD 2/ track 18 only is by Vangelis MusicBrainz data is supplied by Emby server, I think. Edited October 6, 2019 by knowenoughtobedangerous
knowenoughtobedangerous 6 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) What more info can I give. You'll have guessed that I use MediaMonkey to maintain my music library on a share called /music on my QNAP server All data is held in mp3 tags. eg there are no .nfo files or similar in any of the music directories, nor even any artwork files. I know that MediaMonkey uses Discogs to get data, and am I right in thinking that MusicBrainz is behind that somewhere. But, anyway, I can't see any reference to Discogs or MusicBrainz in the mp3 file properties, let alone an id. That's neither the properties as revealed by mediamonkey nor those via Windows. Would it help if I post the actual mp3 files? Edited October 6, 2019 by knowenoughtobedangerous
Happy2Play 9783 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) What more info can I give. You'll have guessed that I use MediaMonkey to maintain my music library on a share called /music on my QNAP server All data is held in mp3 tags. eg there are no .nfo files or similar in any of the music directories, nor even any artwork files. I know that MediaMonkey uses Discogs to get data, and am I right in thinking that MusicBrainz is behind that somewhere. But, anyway, I can't see any reference to Discogs or MusicBrainz id in the mp3 file properties, let alone an id. That's neither the properties as revealed by mediamonkey nor those via Windows. Would it help if I post the actual mp3 files? Possibly, but what do you see if your run the file through ffprobe as that is what reads the embedded metadata for Emby? There may be a way to see all the tags in MediaMonkey but am unfamiliar with the program. example Edited October 6, 2019 by Happy2Play
knowenoughtobedangerous 6 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Posted October 7, 2019 How's this ffprobe version 4.0.3-emby_2019_04_09-g5abbb1430d+449 Copyright © 2007-2018 the FFmpeg developers and softworkz for Emby LLC built with gcc 8.3.0 (Rev2, Built by MSYS2 project)Input #0, mp3, from '\\HomeServer\Music\MediaMonkey\Vangelis\Odyssey- The Definitive Collection\01 - Pulstar.mp3': Metadata: artist : Vangelis album : Odyssey: The Definitive Collection album_artist : Vangelis title : Pulstar composer : Vangelis track : 1 disc : 1 encoder : MediaMonkey 4.0.7 Songs-DB_Custom4: Y replaygain_track_gain: -3.09 dB replaygain_track_peak: 0.918457 replaygain_album_gain: -1.70 dB genre : Electronic Songs-DB_Custom1: N Songs-DB_Custom2: N Songs-DB_Custom3: N date : 1976 Duration: 00:05:25.28, start: 0.025056, bitrate: 248 kb/s Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 248 kb/s, Start-Time 0.025s Metadata: encoder : LAME3.98r Side data: replaygain: track gain - -3.090000, track peak - 0.000021, album gain - -1.700000, album peak - unknown, Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg, yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 200x200 [sAR 96:96 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc, Start-Time 0.025s Metadata: comment : Other
knowenoughtobedangerous 6 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Posted October 8, 2019 fyi I've tried 4.3.0.12 beta, and the issue is still there for me. It's only a minor issue, but it irritates me now I've noticed it. Did you notice that I had run ffprobe on Windows ('cos I don't have the skills to get down to that sort of command line stuff on Unix). It's the same mp3 file that the QNAP server is looking at so still valid, I think. However, having run up a windows system with Emby on it (a little-used version in a virtual machine on the QNAP) I thought it sensible to see how it fared with these albums. I was very surprised to see that in every case I knew of, the windows library contained no such duplicate album-artists. The was one oddity, though. I have 4 albums by a band called Africando. At least, that is what I had as the album-artist for all them. The band is more correctly called Africando All Stars. Both QNAP Emby and Windows Emby have 2 entries in their Album-Artist views. For 1 icon, QNAP Emby has changed the Album-Artist to their full name and shows all 4 albums underneath it. The Africando icon points only to the albums that they Appear On - consistent with all other such duplicates. Windows Emby Album-Artist view has not adopted the full All Stars name. It has 2 Africando icons. One has 3 of their albums showing as Albums> plus the vrious albums they Appear On. The second Album-Artist icon has the 4th album under Albums> and nothing for Appears On. That 4th Albums has Africando as the album-artist tag for evry track, but there are a selection of artists in the artist tags, some including Africando and some not. So, at least 2 differences between how Window and QNAP embies treat these tags and/or use MusicBrainz. I'm giving up with Emby for now, but thought is only decent to let you have my observations. Three of the albums have Africando as the Artist in the mp3 tags, but one has their full name. The Album-Artist view of my library has an icon for Africando All Stars, which includes all 4 albums, and an icon for Africando which shows them as
Luke 42083 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 What is your folder structure? If I am correct as I am seeing this issue with additional folder nesting. @@Luke is this do to folder structure? /music /Frank Sinatra /Frank Sinatra, orchestra conducted by Gordon Jenkins /No One Cares (1959) /music /Frank Sinatra /Frank Sinatra, orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle /Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely (2008) Technically the musicbrainz id is correct just the wrong linked AA. No, probably due to music being tagged with different music brainz id's, and if that's the case, then the duplication would be expected behavior.
skidmarks 199 Posted October 19, 2019 Posted October 19, 2019 My music library is riddled with multiple entries for the same artist. Same thing. One will have the actual albums in my library. The other has albums (various artist albums) that the artist has a song that appears on the album. I haven't come to a conclusion as to why, yet. But as luke suggests i'm pointing my finger at music brainz... I've been spending months verifying artist and album artist tags are clean and correct...
Luke 42083 Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 It also could have been caused by older versions of the server, and newer versions won't necessarily be able to correct it on it's own. What you could try is removing all music and music videos for that artist from all libraries, then run a full library scan by clicking scan all libraries. Then verify the artists are gone and add the music back.
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