How to stop auto updates

[GhostRider 49]

Hi

 

I have looked though the settings but cannot find where to turn off auto updates. Can someone point me in the right direction please.

 

Running version 4.21.

 

 

[Happy2Play 9780]

There is a option for the server but not the plugins.

 

Dashboard-Settings

[Luke 42078]

Where did you look?

[GhostRider 49]

I've look though all the settings but cannot find it, I must be missing something.

 

Under Server Dashboard > settings I see

 

Perferred Display Language

Run Server at start

Cache Path

Login disclaimer

Custom CSS

[Luke 42078]

Not all platforms and configurations support automatically updating the server. Sounds like yours does not, so there's nothing to disable.

[Happy2Play 9780]

At least from a Windows perspective the options are hidden when run as a service.  So if that is the case the only options are manually updating the system.xml.

[GhostRider 49]

At least from a Windows perspective the options are hidden when run as a service.  So if that is the case the only options are manually updating the system.xml.

 

Ah yes, that was why I could not see the option as I run as a service on Windows. I was going a lttle mad trying to find it.

[Luke 42078]

If you don't see the option then it will never happen anyway.

[acnp77 67]

Today I got the message in my Server dashboard that Nfo Metadata 1.0.24 update has been installed and I should restart my server.

I do not want automatic updates. I searched the forum and the server settings but there seems to be no option to disable automatic updates for the plugins.

I have disabled "settings"- > "Allow the server to restart automatically to apply updates" and assume there will be no automatic updates to the server".

How can I prevent automatic updates for the server and plugins?

 

Server Version 4.3.0.30 on Debian LInux

Thanks

[Happy2Play 9780]

Today I got the message in my Server dashboard that Nfo Metadata 1.0.24 update has been installed and I should restart my server.

I do not want automatic updates. I searched the forum and the server settings but there seems to be no option to disable automatic updates for the plugins.

I have disabled "settings"- > "Allow the server to restart automatically to apply updates" and assume there will be no automatic updates to the server".

How can I prevent automatic updates for the server and plugins?

 

Server Version 4.3.0.30 on Debian LInux

Thanks

 

Only way is to find and clear the task triggers via the API link on the Dashboard.  But there is no way for anyone here to provide support for outdated installations.

[acnp77 67]

It's not about outdated installations. It's just about having control over my system and picking a convenient time for me to update.

Some features of emby server have been moved into plugin's lately, but the "no auto-update" function does not include them.

I really feel there should be a simple way to deactivate auto-updates generally.

[Happy2Play 9780]

It's not about outdated installations. It's just about having control over my system and picking a convenient time for me to update.

Some features of emby server have been moved into plugin's lately, but the "no auto-update" function does not include them.

I really feel there should be a simple way to deactivate auto-updates generally.

 

Currently as hidden background tasks they are only available via the API.  There are topic around if you disable them via the API, you can run the tasks via a script.

[Luke 42078]

You can't disable auto updates for plugins.

 

The vast majority of plugin updates are simply compatibility updates for newer server versions. If you're not getting those updates then you're just going to end up coming in here needing help due to things not working and we simply don't have the bandwidth to handle all of that troubleshooting.

[acnp77 67]

@Happy2Play: Thank you for the info.

@Luke:

If you're not getting those updates then you're just going to end up coming in here needing help due to things not working and we simply don't have the bandwidth to handle all of that troubleshooting.

Totally understand. Thank you. Still, the ideal situation would be to give the user the possibility to manually update only. These users then just need to be responsible enough to update before asking questions about outdated setups.

[Luke 42078]

We used to that and unfortunately the troubleshooting was outright painful for us and that's why the change was made.

[acnp77 67]

Sorry to hear. Understand you point.

Still love Emby... thanks a lot for your effort.

[d00zah 149]

Sorry to hear. Understand you point.

Still love Emby... thanks a lot for your effort.

While I appreciate the dev's collective intent to not waste time debugging out-of-date plug-ins, there ARE cases where a user would want to deliberately prevent it. My solution is to set 'read-only' permissions for a specific (SWMC)  plug-in, but doing that to the entire 'plugins' folder would, for all intents & purposes, accomplish what you want.

 

Downsides would be:

 

- Repeated 'Check for plugin updates failed' dashboard 'Alert' msgs FOR EACH plugin.

- Potential for issuing apologies for 'self-inflicted wounds' after reporting non-issues.

 

Ultimately, you get what you want, in addition to the responsibility for remembering what you did to accomplish it. YMMV

Edited December 19, 2019 by d00zah

[acnp77 67]

@@d00zah

A simple, yet effective solution. Thanks!

[acnp77 67]

I understand why you want your users to be up-to-date.

But applying automatic plugin updates every other day and making me restart the server all the time is really a pain.

I think you should reconsider and give the user the possibility to turn off auto-updates.

Cheers

[Luke 42078]

It's not so much that I want them to be up to date, it's more so that I don't want to have to troubleshoot problems that are simply due to sticking with old plugin versions.

 

Thanks for the feedback.

[acnp77 67]

Thanks for your reply.

I understand why there were some updates, especially with the problems at tvdb and users starting to use moviedb instead, so it's important to keep the plugins up to date etc...

Maybe I am just old fashioned, but maybe an option to turn the updates off in the "advanced" section with a respective warning could be an option.

But it's no big issue at the end.

Cheers

[lunadmin 0]

Thats ok from Dev sight, when a user wants support, but for a live system there has to be an option where nothing will be changed. Thats strictly needed!

Othwerwise we end up in situations where something doesn't work anymore, like of major changes in plugins or also changes in the core function of a plugin.

 

Well automatic updates can also crash a system, thats why i do only updates when features are missing or not work. 

In the past with Emby there was a lot of changes in the releases, and the System was afterwards unuseable (like the directory views and some other parts, where the scraping was diffrent, ...) it tooked me weeks to came back to a working system, or i have to wait a long time of releases. I don't do this again, its wasted time. So how much the plugins affect i can't now, but i don't wanna go to debug weeks to find out which problem is related to which update.

 

And there are also compatiblity issues on the system that can happen, so i do a test install before i install the update on my system, also to see changed Features.

 

What i wanna say also:

Its really bad that emby do every time after an update a new library scan, instead using his old cache. That takes everytime ages.

 

Emby is realy great but please give erveryone the option of the versions he wanted to have live.

[pwhodges 2012]

Thats ok from Dev sight, when a user wants support, but for a live system there has to be an option where nothing will be changed.

 

 

There is already an option for that - don't update.  So there should be a way to stop plugins updating - because if the system is updating then compatibility updates for future systems are not needed.

 

Seriously, in places that things like this really matter, they hold off updates until they have had the chance to test the new version on separate hardware, and make any adjustments to instructions and procedures in preparation for rolling out the update.  Just asking for no change is also asking to limit development, which is a losing strategy in the long run.

 

Paul

Edited January 5, 2020 by pwhodges

[pwhodges 2012]

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Edited January 5, 2020 by pwhodges

[acnp77 67]

Its really bad that emby do every time after an update a new library scan

@@Luke

Is it true that emby server performs a new library scan after an update? if yes, is it after server version update or plug-in update?

Thanks