crusher11 1101 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 The LG smart TV app is transcoding because the file I'm watching is over the bitrate limit I set. But this should only apply remotely, right? I'm connected to the local network so I should be connected locally, but there's no way I can see to tell.
rechigo 364 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Yes, bitrate limits only apply out of network. You could be forcing a bitrate in the quality settings, that would be a reason for a "media nitrate exceeds limit" ttanscode
crusher11 1101 Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 I logged out, deleted the server, and then logged back in using my local IP, and everything was fine. But it doesn't answer my question of how I can know whether I'm connected remotely or locally, and I have no idea why I would have been connected remotely in the first place. Is that the default when using Emby Connect?
CBers 7450 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 I logged out, deleted the server, and then logged back in using my local IP, and everything was fine. But it doesn't answer my question of how I can know whether I'm connected remotely or locally, and I have no idea why I would have been connected remotely in the first place. Is that the default when using Emby Connect? Don't use Emby Connect when on your home network.
crusher11 1101 Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 I've always used Connect in the past, and it's been fine with no remote connection even possible. I just figured it would connect locally if that were possible. Guess I should log out and back in on my phone as well then? Or would that cause issues if I move out of my local network's range? Does it automatically convert to connecting remotely or would I have to keep logging in every time I wanted to switch?
ebr 16184 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 I've always used Connect in the past, and it's been fine with no remote connection even possible. I just figured it would connect locally if that were possible. It does. Yes, bitrate limits only apply out of network. You could be forcing a bitrate in the quality settings, that would be a reason for a "media nitrate exceeds limit" ttanscode That's not entirely true. The remote bitrate limit setting on the server only applies to remote connections but bitrate limits requested by an app are respected regardless of the connection type. If you have the app set to auto, it is possible it is coming up with a lower bitrate value in its test due to any number of things (network traffic, the server being busy, etc.) at the time of the test. Try setting a specific value in the app.
Luke 42078 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Don't use Emby Connect when on your home network. You can use it wherever you are. It will always try to use the local address first.
CBers 7450 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 You can use it wherever you are. I know you can, but why would you when on your own lan 1
crusher11 1101 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Posted August 8, 2019 Because it's easier to enter a PIN on my PC than an IP address and username on my TV?
darkassassin07 652 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) I know you can, but why would you when on your own lan Definitely for ease of use. One address vs two. I don't use emby connect myself, but I did setup a local dns to return the local ip for my domain name while on my lan just so that I can use my domain name to connect regardless of where I am. If I wasn't using domain names and using emby connect instead, I would expect it to allow me to use it on lan and wan efficiently. Edited August 8, 2019 by darkassassin07
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 Because it's easier to enter a PIN on my PC than an IP address and username on my TV? Definitely for ease of use. One address vs two. I don't use emby connect myself, but I did setup a local dns to return the local ip for my domain name while on my lan just so that I can use my domain name to connect regardless of where I am. If I wasn't using domain names and using emby connect instead, I would expect it to allow me to use it on lan and wan efficiently. Once you've set the local connection details on your device(s) at home, you (should) never have to touch them again. Entering a username and password for Emby Connect on each device, even only once, has to be a lot harder than using the local connection details, but each to their own. I don't use EC, never have, never will.
crusher11 1101 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Posted August 8, 2019 That's....not how Emby Connect works. Maybe don't offer opinions on how convenient things are until you've tried them?
darkassassin07 652 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) Once you've set the local connection details on your device(s) at home, you (should) never have to touch them again. Entering a username and password for Emby Connect on each device, even only once, has to be a lot harder than using the local connection details, but each to their own. I don't use EC, never have, never will. The difference is by using emby connect or a dns server as I mentioned, you can always use the same method/web address to connect a new device regardless of where you are (lan vs wan). Those login details can then be saved regardless of the method as well. Without emby connect/dns setup, you have to consider whether you are on lan/wan, remember, and then use the corresponding address. (though some routers will do loopback allowing the wan address to work on lan natively, thats not reliable advice) When it comes to 'users', any simplification can be a godsend. Edited August 8, 2019 by darkassassin07
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 That's....not how Emby Connect works. Maybe don't offer opinions on how convenient things are until you've tried them? I have, that's why I don't use it. I have my method, you have your's. Never the twain shall meet.
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 The difference is by using emby connect or a dns server as I mentioned, you can always use the same method/web address to connect a new device regardless of where you are (lan vs wan). Those login details can then be saved regardless of the method as well. Without emby connect/dns setup, you have to consider whether you are on lan/wan, remember, and then use the corresponding address. (though some routers will do loopback allowing the wan address to work on lan natively, thats not reliable advice) When it comes to 'users', any simplification can be a godsend. I understand that, but I have my method, you have your's. Never the twain shall meet.
darkassassin07 652 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) why would you when on your own lan I mean... You asked, after telling someone to use a system you dont use for your own reasons. I just provided an answer to the question. Overall this is a discussion as to why emby connect appears to be using a remote connection while on lan. It's unexpected behavior for those that do use this system. /edit Also; You said you've never used emby connect and never will... Then next post said you have used it.... Edited August 8, 2019 by darkassassin07
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 You said you've never used emby connect and never will... Then next post said you have used it.... Of course I've used it. Things have to be tested in the beta team so that it's available for everyone else to use it. Anyway, enough said, so let's get this thread back on subject
crusher11 1101 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Posted August 8, 2019 Except that how you describe it working is literally not how it actually works.
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 Except that how you describe it working is literally not how it actually works. So if you login to your LG TV without Emby Connect, how is playback ? Still transcoding ?
ebr 16184 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 So if you login to your LG TV without Emby Connect, how is playback ? Still transcoding ? It wouldn't make any difference - assuming the local address on the server dashboard is correct. You can certainly use Connect on your LAN but it really should be easier not to. Any local Emby server will be automatically discovered by the app so you won't have to type in anything - just select the server from the list.
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 Any local Emby server will be automatically discovered by the app so you won't have to type in anything - just select the server from the list. It never used to do that in the LG TV app, unless it's been added recently. https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/55588-lg-app-observations/page-3&do=findComment&comment=579256
crusher11 1101 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Posted August 8, 2019 You can certainly use Connect on your LAN but it really should be easier not to. Any local Emby server will be automatically discovered by the app so you won't have to type in anything - just select the server from the list. That's not how the LG TV app works, and I have all users hidden from the login screen so there'd be typing involved regardless. Whereas for Connect I just have to type a PIN into my phone or PC browser, both of which are already logged in anyway - contrary to CBers' absurd claim that I'd have to type my username and password into every device.
CBers 7450 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 contrary to CBers' absurd claim that I'd have to type my username and password into every device.
crusher11 1101 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Posted August 8, 2019 You said that. Repeatedly. It's not true.
darkassassin07 652 Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 You can certainly use Connect on your LAN but it really should be easier not to. Any local Emby server will be automatically discovered by the app so you won't have to type in anything - just select the server from the list. This is assuming you using one of the installable apps (theater, android, roku, ect). On a pc I usualy use the web app, and just save my domain name as a bookmark in the browser. If I was using emby connect instead of a domain to connect a laptop, I'd just save the emby connect address and expect that to work no matter where that laptop is.
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