Sammy 790 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Posted October 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, ebr said: It is no different than setting up any other m3u tuner... M3U Tuners True, but extracting the m3u from ChannelsDVR is hidden in a post on the Channels forum. Maybe @cayars can put the instructions on how to do that can be in the KB?
Sammy 790 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Posted October 23, 2020 Oh and setting up the epg for Emby LiveTV is not straightforward either.
Carlo 4560 Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Sammy said: True, but extracting the m3u from ChannelsDVR is hidden in a post on the Channels forum. Maybe @cayars can put the instructions on how to do that can be in the KB? We're trying to keep the KB area specific to Emby itself and features currently released. I did however recently add a couple of pages on NextPVR and Vbox Communication's Gateway m3u integration. I could maybe add a page specific to m3u integration and how to pick the device. Let me think about that one. 2 hours ago, Sammy said: Oh and setting up the epg for Emby LiveTV is not straightforward either. Curious, what's hard about Live TV EPG setup? Did you mean this in general or specific to the channels you get from TVE?
Sammy 790 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Posted October 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, cayars said: We're trying to keep the KB area specific to Emby itself and features currently released. I did however recently add a couple of pages on NextPVR and Vbox Communication's Gateway m3u integration. I could maybe add a page specific to m3u integration and how to pick the device. Let me think about that one. Curious, what's hard about Live TV EPG setup? Did you mean this in general or specific to the channels you get from TVE? Thanks for considering adding to the KB! For the epg, I had to choose a couple of lineups and, although I haven't completely verified yet, I think some of them are off on time zone which would need an offset in the m3u which will take a bit of time. It would seem that either way, with a plugin or native support, this issue would still need to be tackled by Emby although ChannelsDVR seems to have figured it out in their DVR app.
Carlo 4560 Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 Not sure how a plugin will help for that. A custom guide perhaps would be much more help. The real problem is that Channels DVR isn't pulling the streams you're actually entitled to. By this I mean if you use TVE outside vs inside Channels the streams you get are different. They figure out how to get a stream for a channel then more or less use it for anyone that has access regardless if it's the stream they should get or not. That kind of things may end up causing them issues long term but is the cause of this. Theoretically you should be able to use your cable lineup because that should match the streams you get from TVE.
ElroyPaisley 0 Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 2:19 PM, cayars said: I think this is more an advanced user type functionality and kind of look at this a bit different. Right now you can setup both Locast and TVE in Channels DVR then can simply forget about it an use the M3U output in Emby. Sorry, can you explain this to me? If I have Channels DVR setup and my Locast and TVE plugged in, is there some way to port that into Emby as an M3u?
Luke 42077 Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ElroyPaisley said: Sorry, can you explain this to me? If I have Channels DVR setup and my Locast and TVE plugged in, is there some way to port that into Emby as an M3u? Yes we support importing m3u channels. You may also want to see this:
Carlo 4560 Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, ElroyPaisley said: Sorry, can you explain this to me? If I have Channels DVR setup and my Locast and TVE plugged in, is there some way to port that into Emby as an M3u? Follow the thread Luke gave you above. Any questions post in that thread and we can help you out.
all4dom 101 Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 I would love to see this as a paid add on for emby. It would greatly enhance the live tv feature for people like me who cant use an antenna. As I said in another post I am a long time emby user going back to the media browser days & would prefer to keep everything in 1 app. I'm not sure if something like TVE is hard to implement & time consuming but if a lot of people wanted it, maybe it would be worth it. There are lots of users on this forum so I'm hoping to see more likes. Keeping my fingers crossed. 1
Sammy 790 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Posted April 29, 2021 Well it looks like I was asking for this nearly two years ago. There are some m3u features coming in the next release of Emby TV but I don't think it includes TVE..
all4dom 101 Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 We can only hope more people like this & keep our fingers crossed.
all4dom 101 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 I was hoping to see some more likes or comments. Thinking maybe TVE is not a big deal for a lot of people.
Carlo 4560 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 Keep in mind things like TVE and Locust are USA only services so that does narrow the amount of Emby users who would see the appeal.
all4dom 101 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 @cayarsI did not know that but I would think emby has a very large user base in the u.s & with all the cord cutting going on & people saving their own media, I would think this would be something a lot of people would want. Being able to use one app, saving $$$$ on dvr recording are just a few things. Even being able to share your server with family or friends. Maybe 1 day this will be an added feature. I dont know how complicated it is to add it but emby does have a big team of developers. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Carlo 4560 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 Right, but is what they are doing legal "hi-jacking" streams like that circumventing the interface provided. I've not looked at any TOS but I'd be very surprised if it didn't specify something that forbids this. The above are questions, not statements but is the kind of thing you need to think about before doing something like this. Then ideally you would want to have a contract between parties. One "cease and desist" letter could shut you down or remove your killer feature quite quickly. Talk about having all your "eggs in one basket".
Sammy 790 Posted May 1, 2021 Author Posted May 1, 2021 One still must pay for a Cable Service to use TVE so there's not much cord cutting going on.
all4dom 101 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 I have not looked at the TOS myself, but I dont think any of these providers would go too crazy because I am paying for the service. Its just another way I'm viewing it & I dont see any problem because I'm actually viewing it through the web if you think about it. Another thing to look at is cost, I think many people would pay more for having the TVE feature then paying for a service that does not. I've already seen that happen in the CDVR community because people what that capability. Dont be surprised if you see some streaming sites include features such as being viewable in software like emby. That could be a selling point for that service. I could be wrong but I dont see TVE rocking the boat anytime soon.
all4dom 101 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 @Sammydifference is in the cost. My package with spectrum is about 32 dollars & that's high because of the local network fees. I dont pay for any cable boxes or dvr. Spectrum even has a simple cable streaming package without networks, news & sports for 15 dollars. In the short period of time all these streaming packages were out they raised the price to high too quick.
Carlo 4560 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 Keep in mind however that TVE is an auxiliary service the cable providers give you for access away from home, etc. You would have to wonder if they would approve of this being used as your main cable delivery which is essentially what people are doing instead of purchasing a cable tuner which is actually cheaper (long term), has more channels and will be better quality as well. Don't get me wrong I think some of this integration is really cool and novel. But if it has to cost extra per month and we have a solution that works do we really want Emby spending time on a duplicate feature vs working on other things that all users can use, not just a specific geo area?
Sammy 790 Posted May 1, 2021 Author Posted May 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, all4dom said: @Sammydifference is in the cost. My package with spectrum is about 32 dollars & that's high because of the local network fees. I dont pay for any cable boxes or dvr. Spectrum even has a simple cable streaming package without networks, news & sports for 15 dollars. In the short period of time all these streaming packages were out they raised the price to high too quick. So do you use Prime CableCARD tuners? When my promo package ends in August I'll pay more no doubt but before that I used YouTubeTV for a while. In the meantime YouTubeTV has gone up too so I'll stay with what I have with two Prime tuners and Emby.
all4dom 101 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 No I dont use cable cards. I pay for a small stteaming package & use channels DVR with the tv everywhere package. I link it through emby & I have live tv with unlimited tv tuners & storage space. I am able to add Pluto & stirr also that way I have a decent little selection of tv to watch. No complaints. YouTube tv, HBO max & hulu live tv & fubu are just to much. They jacked up the prices pretty quickly then stopped but they are going to increase it again soon I'm sure. I dont do kodi or any of the other stuff because ita not worth the time or headache.
CarloDiGi 0 Posted May 2, 2021 Posted May 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, all4dom said: No I dont use cable cards. I pay for a small stteaming package & use channels DVR with the tv everywhere package. I link it through emby & I have live tv with unlimited tv tuners & storage space. I am able to add Pluto & stirr also that way I have a decent little selection of tv to watch. No complaints. YouTube tv, HBO max & hulu live tv & fubu are just to much. They jacked up the prices pretty quickly then stopped but they are going to increase it again soon I'm sure. I dont do kodi or any of the other stuff because ita not worth the time or headache. I've been using fhdhr, it's pretty new and bare bones. It uses a plug in system to add different TV services to it and expose them as a fake hdhr and a m3u Playlist. I use it in Emby only for my ceton infinitv eth 6 tuner, however fhdhr supports YouTube TV, stirr, ustvgo and others. It's also free ninety nine and open source. There is an open issue in GitHub for TVE support but it's not likely to happen. Check it out if your interested in leveraging fhdhr instead of paying for channels dvr just to pipe those services into Emby. https://github.com/fHDHR Personally I'd still love to see TVE support in Emby but I'm aware it's not easy for many reasons.
all4dom 101 Posted May 2, 2021 Posted May 2, 2021 I just looked & to be honest not even sure how I would do it, but maybe I'll play around with it & try. I dont complaine with my spectrum package because it is cheap, but if they start jacking up the cost or CDVR does the same then I'll explore other options. I do keep my fingers crossed we may one day see this in emby. Who knows, maybe someone will make an emby plug on for it.
Sammy 790 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Posted May 2, 2021 19 hours ago, CarloDiGi said: I've been using fhdhr, it's pretty new and bare bones. It uses a plug in system to add different TV services to it and expose them as a fake hdhr and a m3u Playlist. I use it in Emby only for my ceton infinitv eth 6 tuner, however fhdhr supports YouTube TV, stirr, ustvgo and others. It's also free ninety nine and open source. There is an open issue in GitHub for TVE support but it's not likely to happen. Check it out if your interested in leveraging fhdhr instead of paying for channels dvr just to pipe those services into Emby. https://github.com/fHDHR Personally I'd still love to see TVE support in Emby but I'm aware it's not easy for many reasons. Are there setup instructions for this someplace?
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