Problem with recognize TV Shows

May 11, 2019

Hi!

Around 3 weeks ago I notice problem with my TV Shows Library in Emby. Now looks like

"Odcinek" means episode in polish language. Each episode regonize as a single series. My folder structure looks: "F:\Seriale\Nazwa serialu\Sezon 00\Odcinek 00\SeriesNameS00E00.mkv", which means "F:\TV Shows\TV Show Name\Season 00\Episode 00\SeriesNameS00E00.mkv" in polish. Funny thing is that TV shows where isn't a folder structure like this emby recognize property.

I testing emby beta, is the same problem. I have create new folder with new tv series, no nfo, and after forced identification title (Series "Warrior 2019") series show property but after adding new episode in folder, emby again recognize it as a new series call "Odcinek 02".

Also I always use TinyMediaManager to download metadata and saving nfo, because is simple and faster to choice my favourite poster, typing polish plot or something like this.

Do I something wrong? Earlier was everything right. I notice problem around 20th April.

Sorry for my English, I don't use it for long time.

Edited May 11, 2019 by sluzu

May 11, 2019

You can try the beta server branch as other topics say support for episode folders will be added in 4.2, they are not supported in 4.1.1.0.

May 11, 2019

I try beta versions, it's the same problem...

May 11, 2019

Did you run a library scan?

May 11, 2019

Yes.

May 11, 2019

What version are you on?

May 11, 2019

Currently 4.1.1.0.

Also I try beta 4.2

May 12, 2019

Can you provide some exact folder structure examples using real names? Thanks.

May 13, 2019

Sorry for the brake.

My folders structure looks like this:

L:\Seriale\Halt and Catch Fire\Sezon 03\Odcinek 05\Halt.and.Catch.Fire.S03E05.720p.WEB.DL.x264-mRs.mkv

L:\Seriale\Halt and Catch Fire\Sezon 03\Odcinek 06\Halt.and.Catch.Fire.S03E06.720p.WEB.DL.x264-mRs.mkv

L:\Seriale\Halt and Catch Fire\Sezon 03\Odcinek 07\Halt.and.Catch.Fire.S03E07.720p.WEB.DL.x264-mRs.mkv

end etc.

Edited May 13, 2019 by sluzu

May 14, 2019

I just moved from Plex to Emby yesterday, and I have the same problem.
Most of my TV-shows is recognized, but some of them is shown the same way as UP.

In Plex you have an option to search for a TV-show and select it, to solve this problem, I don't see this option in Emby.

I even have this problem on some movies.
Emby won't recognize a movie like Toy Story from Disney, and I'm 100% sure it has nothing to do with the filename, because this was never a problem in Plex.

I Switch to Emby, because of some big problems with Plex, I already like how much you can do with Emby, I even paid for Lifetime, because I like the extra features you get.
So it's very frustrating that you can't make a manual search on a tv-show

Here is a picture, and I really don't understand why this is a problem in Emby, it work 9 /10 times in Plex. :/

May 14, 2019

Sorry for the brake.

My folders structure looks like this:

L:\Seriale\Halt and Catch Fire\Sezon 03\Odcinek 05\Halt.and.Catch.Fire.S03E05.720p.WEB.DL.x264-mRs.mkv

L:\Seriale\Halt and Catch Fire\Sezon 03\Odcinek 06\Halt.and.Catch.Fire.S03E06.720p.WEB.DL.x264-mRs.mkv

L:\Seriale\Halt and Catch Fire\Sezon 03\Odcinek 07\Halt.and.Catch.Fire.S03E07.720p.WEB.DL.x264-mRs.mkv

end etc.

Guess it's "Lost in translation".

Anyway, I'm quite positive it's only naming convention issue, as I see it you have 2 ways to test it:

1. Move all episodes under Season folder only, with no episode folders

2. Rename all "Odcinek 0x" folders to reflect actual filename inside (without mkv extension)

Let us know how it went.

Cheers

May 14, 2019

I just moved from Plex to Emby yesterday, and I have the same problem.

Most of my TV-shows is recognized, but some of them is shown the same way as UP.

In Plex you have an option to search for a TV-show and select it, to solve this problem, I don't see this option in Emby.

I even have this problem on some movies.

Emby won't recognize a movie like Toy Story from Disney, and I'm 100% sure it has nothing to do with the filename, because this was never a problem in Plex.

I Switch to Emby, because of some big problems with Plex, I already like how much you can do with Emby, I even paid for Lifetime, because I like the extra features you get.

So it's very frustrating that you can't make a manual search on a tv-show

Here is a picture, and I really don't understand why this is a problem in Emby, it work 9 /10 times in Plex. :/

Could you show us you Star Wars Resistance folder structure? Thanks.

Cheers

May 14, 2019

I suggest you drop the extra episode folder and add some delimiters to the naming,

That is instead of:

"F:\TV Shows\TV Show Name (year)\Season 00\Episode 00\SeriesNameS00E00.mkv"

You use:

"F:\TV Shows\TV Show Name\Season 00\Series Name - S00E00.mkv"

That naming always works for me. The (year) is only needed when there are duplicate series names from different years.

May 14, 2019

Guess it's "Lost in translation".

Anyway, I'm quite positive it's only naming convention issue, as I see it you have 2 ways to test it:

1. Move all episodes under Season folder only, with no episode folders

2. Rename all "Odcinek 0x" folders to reflect actual filename inside (without mkv extension)

Let us know how it went.

Cheers

I'm sorry, i dont understand what you mean writing "Lost in translation"? Did I make mistake?

Anyway, I know it's naming problem. I have two series where I don't have any folder structure and its everything fine. But when I left only season folder (without episodes folders) emby recognize it as series naming "Season 0x". So I have to move all episodes to one folder with tv show name. Also I have almost 400 tv shows, and it mean a lot work to moving all episodes. I don't have that much free time But thank you for advice

May 15, 2019

I believe the issue is that we are currently not recognizing the word "Sezon" as a season folder.

I will add this for the next release. Thanks.

May 18, 2019

Hi,

I also suffer quite a bit from the same effect after updating to 4.1.1.0:

My TVShow folder was quite 'devastated' by the recent scan in that for a couple of TV shows

now every episode of every season showed up as separate TV show.

Up to now I have identified two problem causes:

1. Shows were all episodes of different season were placed in just one folder:

<library>/Show S01-S03

Show S01E01

Show S01E02

...

Show S02E01

Show S02E02

...

2. Shows where there was only one Season and which were therefore put into just one folder in the root directory

<library>/Show S01

Show S01E01

Show S01E02

...

So my conlcusion is that the new emby strictly enforces the folder structure Show/Season/Episode(s).

Can anyone confirm that? And if so give some insight why one should not consider this a bug?

md_heuler

May 18, 2019

Here is a third case:

3. Show with one .iso image for each season:

<library>/Show

Show DISC.1/

Show S01D01.iso

Show DISC2/

Show S02D02.iso

...

May 18, 2019

Could you show us you Star Wars Resistance folder structure? Thanks.

Cheers

All episodes was in it's own folder, so it looked something like this:

Star Wars Resistance

Season 1

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E01.1080p (folder)

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E01.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E02.1080p (folder)

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E02.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E03.1080p (folder)

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E03.1080p.mkv

This was never a problem in Plex, but after I change it to this, it works:

Star Wars Resistance

Season 1

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E01.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E02.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E03.1080p.mkv

May 18, 2019

All episodes was in it's own folder, so it looked something like this:

Star Wars Resistance

Season 1

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E01.1080p (folder)

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E01.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E02.1080p (folder)

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E02.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E03.1080p (folder)

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E03.1080p.mkv

This was never a problem in Plex, but after I change it to this, it works:

Star Wars Resistance

Season 1

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E01.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E02.1080p.mkv

Star.Wars.Resistance.S01.E03.1080p.mkv

You should drop delimiter (.) between Season and Episode (i.e. S01E01) then it should work in any case, even if subfolders present.

Cheers

Edited May 18, 2019 by GrimReaper76

May 18, 2019

You should drop delimiter (.) between Season and Episode (i.e. S01E01) then it should work in any case, even if subfolders present.

Cheers

It was never a problem with Plex, and it shouldn't be a problem with Emby. I like to have episodes in folders, if there is several subs to them

May 18, 2019

It was never a problem with Plex, and it shouldn't be a problem with Emby. I like to have episodes in folders, if there is several subs to them

That's fine and dandy, keep your subfolders, drop the dot and it will work as expected.

Edit:

Both in the folder name and in the filename.

Cheers

Edited May 18, 2019 by GrimReaper76

June 26, 2019

Had another frustrating session yesterday to fix various Series in my library.

To sum it up I had to create various new/useless season subfolders

just in order for the TV show to appear as ONE show rather than a set of independent

entries (for each episode):

e.g.:

Title/

Title.E01

Title.E02

Title.E03

was not recognized as ONE show but rather as three independent entries ;-(

Why should I be forced to create a season subfolder if there simply are no different

seasons. I don't get it!

Or why is this

Title.S01/

Title.S01E01

Titel.S01E02

Title.S01E03

...

not recognized as ONE show, but instead has to look like that:

Title/

Title.S01/

Title.S01E01

Titel.S01E02

Title.S01E03

...

I don't get it!

Honestly I am pretty close to downgrading emby to a previous version.

The current one 4.1.1.0 feels broken.

Why did you guys change the behavior in the first place?

What improvement did that bring?

md_heuler

June 26, 2019

Hi. This is because people want us to support so many different possible file structures. In order to do that, we have to have some rules of some sort to properly identify things.

We are always looking for ways to make it more flexible if we can though.

June 26, 2019

But it should always be a consideration of cost and benefit.

For me the old behavior was quite ok for most of the series

and I would guess that's true for the majority of people.

A very small number of exceptions could easily be fixed by folder

renaming or restructuring.

Now with the new behavior, lot of series in my

EXISTING library are broken. So I have a lot of extra work

(to me without benefit).

My simple request/requirement would be that:

Everything with the same (folder) name or with names varying only by S??E??, S??, or E??

(you can add more patterns if you like) should be considered to belong together.

Either as show or as season of a show, don't think that's really important.

Apart from that the folder structure should not matter:

Should be possibly to put Seasons in root folder or in a corresponding TV Show folder.

And I don't really see a requirement to put each season in a separate subfolder below the TV Show folder.

And keep in mind some stuff does not even have the notion of 'season'.

IMHO that should be possible even on top of the 'different possible file structures' people want.

That's how I experienced emby when first getting in contact with. I had hardly any need for doing

restructuring of my material on a folder level. The only tweaking was with emby's own 'Identify' function,

if something was not identified correctly. In worst-case I only had to do this on Seasion-level

not on each episode as it is now. (To me a real show-stopper).

IMHO emby should be as flexible as possible, because if particularly a new user (migrating from Plex

or any other software that could deal with his material) has problems getting his material into emby,

he might easily stop the migration attempt once and for all.

I really have a heart for emby and appreciate the work you do, thus, I think we should avoid this.

md_heuler

June 26, 2019

Do you use episode folders?

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