TylerV76 84 Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 First off Im extremely new to the UHD scene so bear with me if im missing something simple. Can someone look at these 2 files and help me figure out why one triggers HDR on my TV and the other doesn't? Im not seeing any differences here. This is on an Nvidia Shield and the HDMI display mode is set to YUV 420 10Bit Rec. 2020 HDR Triggered: HDR Not Triggered:
Jdiesel 1431 Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) The second video has been cropped to remove the black bars above and below the video, (3840x1600 instead of 3840x2160). Emby on the Shield TV currently has an issue enabling HDR with these cropped videos. Current solution is to re-rip/re-download an uncropped version... Edited January 22, 2019 by Jdiesel 1
TylerV76 84 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Posted January 22, 2019 The second video has been cropped to remove the black bars above and below the video, (3840x1600 instead of 3840x2160). Emby on the Shield TV currently has an issue enabling HDR with these cropped videos. Current solution is to re-rip/re-download an uncropped version... Thank you. I just came back into this thread to edit it and say I found the other thread explaining this.
Jdiesel 1431 Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Where is the other thread? https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/60362-shield-atv-hdr/
Guest asrequested Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Also this https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/67829-best-device-for-emby-4k-hdr-atmos/page-2&do=findComment&comment=677912
CBers 7450 Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 As per the other thread(s), it appears to be an issue with the Emby ATV app, as the Plex ATV app works. You can use an externally with the Emby ATV app, such as MX Player, or the Archos Player. We're stuck with this until either Google fix exoplayer, or Emby provides some sort of work around.
Guest asrequested Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Or just use any other Android TV device. Everything else other than shield works just fine.
TylerV76 84 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Or just use any other Android TV device. Everything else other than shield works just fine. I looked at grabbing a Mi Box but apparently it doesn't passthrough Dolby Atmos. Im fine getting another box but I don't know of another one that allows direct play of everything and allows Dolby Atmos. Doesn't even have to be Android. Im looking to see if Roku could possibly handle all of this. Edit: appears Roku cannot passthrough Lossless Truehd so that won't be an option. Edited January 23, 2019 by TylerV76
Guest asrequested Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) I looked at grabbing a Mi Box but apparently it doesn't passthrough Dolby Atmos. Im fine getting another box but I don't know of another one that allows direct play of everything and allows Dolby Atmos. Doesn't even have to be Android. Im looking to see if Roku could possibly handle all of this. Yeah, that's an issue with these little boxes. Some of these guys have experimented with various models, maybe they could chime in? Edited January 23, 2019 by Doofus
TylerV76 84 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Yeah, that's an issue with these little boxes. Some of these guys have experimented with various models, maybe they could chime in? May be a stupid question but if these other apps on the shield can support cropped HDR, why is Emby using the stock Android player? Wouldn't it be a better solution to use a forked version like Plex does? Granted, I know less than zero about customizing the exoplayer or any video player for that matter. Edited January 23, 2019 by TylerV76
Guest asrequested Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 May be a stupid question but if these other apps on the shield can support cropped HDR, why is Emby using the stock Android player? Wouldn't it be a better solution to use a forked version like Plex does? Granted, I know less than zero about customizing the exoplayer or any video player for that matter. That has been talked about. I can only speculate as to why ebr is making his decision.
CBers 7450 Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 May be a stupid question but if these other apps on the shield can support cropped HDR, why is Emby using the stock Android player? Wouldn't it be a better solution to use a forked version like Plex does? Granted, I know less than zero about customizing the exoplayer or any video player for that matter. You can set up an external player for Emby to use, but it then uses it for all content. I asked whether a TAG could be added to a movie so that the ATV app sees it and then forces playback via an external player, but there was no feedback from Eric. He seems to be waiting for a fix, rather than hacking the app to get it to work temporarily. 1
Jdiesel 1431 Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 What external player are people using that does HDR and HD Audio Passthrough?
TylerV76 84 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 What external player are people using that does HDR and HD Audio Passthrough? Archos will do it if you install the separate codecs app. MX Player does it also but I was having horrendous stuttering with that app (may need a change in the settings or something). Are we allowed to offer bribes to @@ebr to get this working in Emby? I don't have much hope that Nvidia is going to get this going anytime soon.
CBers 7450 Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Archos will do it if you install the separate codecs app. MX Player does it also but I was having horrendous stuttering with that app (may need a change in the settings or something). I just tried with both the Archos player and MX Player, but neither triggered HDR on my TV when used as an external player - I thought I had tried them successfully in the past. They both did if I opened the app standalone and navigated to the file on my server Are we allowed to offer bribes to @@ebr to get this working in Emby? I don't have much hope that Nvidia is going to get this going anytime soon.
Guest asrequested Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) All of this would go away if ExoPlayer used Android's standard decoder. I think it's mediacodec? Edited January 23, 2019 by Doofus
TylerV76 84 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 I just tried with both the Archos player and MX Player, but neither triggered HDR on my TV when used as an external player - I thought I had tried them successfully in the past. They both did if I opened the app standalone and navigated to the file on my server Ill try them again when I get home but they were triggering it last night for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CBers 7450 Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Ill try them again when I get home but they were triggering it last night for me. With cropped content?
ebr 16178 Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 All of this would go away if ExoPlayer used Android's standard decoder. I think it's mediacodec? That's exactly what it already does. This issue is not related to that at all. It is related to having two different surfaces visible at the same time I believe.
TylerV76 84 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 With cropped content? Ok so I just tested cropped files using the external player with Archos, I have the codecs app installed also. the first time I played it I got HDR and Atmos sound. I backed out and tried another movie and I got HDR but multi channel sound. I tried again and got HDR and multi channel sound. I don't know why it triggered it the first time and no other times. 1
TylerV76 84 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 That's exactly what it already does. This issue is not related to that at all. It is related to having two different surfaces visible at the same time I believe. Im still willing to bribe you if that helps. 1
Guest asrequested Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 That's exactly what it already does. This issue is not related to that at all. It is related to having two different surfaces visible at the same time I believe. Oh, well forgive my misunderstanding. I thought you had said that ExoPlayer uses the native decoder of the device? Which would be different on the shield. So it uses the Android decoder, and that's having a problem with how it works with the shield GPU?
vdatanet 1617 Posted January 24, 2019 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Im still willing to bribe you if that helps. Maybe we should bribe NVIDIA, which in my opinion they are responsible. Edited January 24, 2019 by vdatanet
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