A couple of observations about Collections.

[Koleckai Silvestri 1154]

A couple of things aren't working quite right with collections. I don't think they are bugs but rather the result of an oversight in the design. These are:

 

1) If you add movies to a Collection, the total movie count is reduced by the number of movies added to the collection. For instance, my system says I have added 635 Movies. However There are 23 items currently in collections that aren't accounted for. This brings the total to the correct 658 items.

 

2) If you add a movie to a Collection, it is removed from the Latest Movie list. I feel this is also incorrect. If a movie is one of the last ones added, it shouldn't matter if it is in a Collection or not. It should still be shown in this filter.

 

These issues happen in the Web Client, Media Browser Theater and in the Roku client. I haven't checked iOS, Android or Media Browser Classic but I suspect they are the same. I don't have access to the Windows 8 client.

[Luke 42078]

What numbers are you referring to? The second issue should get fixed, yes.

[Koleckai Silvestri 1154]

The total number of movies in my collection. Shows between the pagination and the sorting tools in the Web Client.

 

 

It currently shows 634. It showed 642 before I added the 8 Harry Potter movies to a collection. Every time you add movies to a collection, the number decreases.

[ebr 16178]

That is not the number of movies.  That is the number of items that will show in that view.  The individual movies no longer show in that view so aren't in the number.

[FrostByte 5392]

Not sure what you mean.  My HP movies are both in a collection and in that view so it shouldn't really drop the count I wouldn't think.  I also thought the count was how many items which can be displayed from the character you are clicked on in the right column to the end, so if you click on "#" it should technically be how many movies you have in your entire collection

[FrostByte 5392]

Ok, brain fart on my part.  Mine are probably still showing the individual movies because I'm using the old boxset method to create a collection (notice the Aliens movies which are in a collection also) 

 

[ebr 16178]

I don't think it should matter which method you are using but, I don't see the Alien collection in that list so however it is being done it isn't seeing the collection in that context.

 

In any case, hopefully, it is clear now what those numbers actually are.

[FrostByte 5392]

Yep, clear now.  It doesn't show up there as a collection just up in the collections section.  I wasn't aware it showed up in that view as a collection either using the other method and understand why it would reduce the count now.   thanks ebr

Edited April 17, 2014 by FrostByte

[gcw07 347]

The count on that page is just the count of the number of items displayed. So when collections are collapsed like they are, the count gets reduced. I'm not a fan of the collapsed display either, but it is what it is at the moment.

[ebr 16178]

Not sure what you mean.  My HP movies are both in a collection and in that view so it shouldn't really drop the count I wouldn't think.  I also thought the count was how many items which can be displayed from the character you are clicked on in the right column to the end, so if you click on "#" it should technically be how many movies you have in your entire collection

 

No, it isn't a number of movies or anything else "logical" like that.  It is a paging number.  You are looking at items 1-100 of a total of 634 items that will show in that actual view.  If individual movies are placed inside of collections then those individual movies do not show in that view anymore - the collections do instead.

 

There are a total of 634 things that will display in that view.  This is exactly the same as if you were looking at TV series.  It will show you how many series there are because that is what shows in the view.  It won't also count the seasons and episodes under those series just as it won't count the movies under the collections.

 

Again, that is a paging indicator nothing else.  It is not telling you how many of anything there is in your library.  It is telling you how many of whatever you are viewing are being shown.

[Deathsquirrel 745]

Please don't change the collapsed nature of collections without some serious community discussion.  It takes me forever to scroll through movies when I'm picking a movie as it is.  If you make the list suddenly a couple hundred items longer I'd go nuts

 

I LOVE the fact that I can cut all the Harry Potter films from 8 entries I have to scroll past to just 1.

[trusselo 225]

i have noticed that webUI and theatre (last i checked, months ago)  handle 'folder' boxsets and logically linked boxsets differently

[ginjaninja 605]

i think movies within a collection should show in a movies view, most simply because the movie names and the collection name may sort differently so you wouldn't see a movie that youd expect in its normal sort order.

If all members of a collection would appear next to the collection (given same sort name start), then there is a case to hide members, but the ui design starts to get a bit shaky if its 1 rule for 1 collection and its members and another rule for another.

That said it makes sense that collections might show in a movies view and not just in a collections view.

So maybe...

Option - Show Collections in Movies View

Sub Option - Collapse/Hide Collection members into Collection Parent in Movies View

Sub Sub Option - Hide Only when sort order of collection members and collection are contiguous/together

Edited April 18, 2014 by ginjaninja

[Luke 42078]

we're not looking to do that but we may introduce some customization.

[trusselo 225]

virtual collections show as movies in movie view.

folder collections show as collections in movie view.

 

this is true in webui and from what i remember, MBT too