Commercial detection, or honor EDL?

[pcubillos 3]

13 hours ago, AmiralRichter said:

I think what @pcubillos is saying is that if Emby understands EDL files, one could manually create an EDL file to skip certain parts of a movie. i.e. not necessarily recorded from live tv.

EDL is a simple text file containing a list of time pairs (in seconds) to identify cuts, chapters, sections to be muted or commercials.

Yup, exactly! I want to cut/skip and mute certain parts of a movie without having to modify the original movie file. I am not looking to skip commercials. I use emby for my viewing my library of movies that I ripped and re-encoded on my media center.

Thanks!

[sross44 430]

22 hours ago, cayars said:

Sure that could be done but any savvy child could rewind for the "good parts".

HAHA... you know they'd be doing that too! 

[sross44 430]

I'm assuming the answer is still "we're working on it" but do we have an idea or approximation when the TV updates will be introduced? I know it's been a long time promised and hopefully it's soon, but really I'm just curious. 

[muzicman0 84]

Assuming this will come sometime in the future, can I suggest a feature from Channels DVR that I haven't seen on any other EDL supported player?  This should be an option, not forced though.

What Channels DVR does (again, optionally!), is when a cut point is reached in a video file, a button will pop up to skip the commercials.  I really like this, because a lot of the times, my cut points are a couple seconds before the commercials actually start, so I can wait to skip until they start.  

I know this wouldn't be for everyone, but for me, I almost always have the remote in my hand, and I found this feature to be extremely helpful!

[shdwkeeper 15]

Any update on this?

[muzicman0 84]

I'm beginning to think it will never happen.  Which is frustrating.  I would really like to ditch Kodi as a player and just use the Emby app on my Shield, but not being able to use edl files is a deal breaker for my wife and I.

[chris4851 1]

I’ve gone back to Plex because they offer built in commercial skip and it works fantastic. 

[muzicman0 84]

It's easy enough to run comskip, but without edl ability, it doesnt do any good. 

[pcubillos 3]

Muzicman0: So plex does not do EDL either? I WILL BE READY TO JUMP IF IT DOES!!!

[muzicman0 84]

7 minutes ago, pcubillos said:

Muzicman0: So plex does not do EDL either? I WILL BE READY TO JUMP IF IT DOES!!!

I don't know if Plex does or not. 

[HarryMuscle 3]

On 02/09/2021 at 19:07, muzicman0 said:

I don't know if Plex does or not. 

Plex does not support EDL files.  They do have the ability to skip the intro for TV shows but it's one skip and it's not automatic (shows a skip intro button).

[pcubillos 3]

That's probably why Emby is not really pushing for the EDL option either. There is no competition, so the improvement suggestion is not high on the list. 

Those of you on this forum that got it to work on Kodi, can you please post some sites how this can be done. I am getting tired of waiting. If I can get it to work then I can cancel my Emby subscription. I appreciate any help on this. Have a great and safe day!

[chris4851 1]

Emby doesn’t even offer basic commercial skip. Plex is already way ahead in this regards. Until Emby has commercial skip their software for live TV record is useless. 

[muzicman0 84]

11 minutes ago, chris4851 said:

Emby doesn’t even offer basic commercial skip. Plex is already way ahead in this regards. Until Emby has commercial skip their software for live TV record is useless. 

Useless is probably over stating it, but certainly makes it so that my wife won't use it.

[muzicman0 84]

22 minutes ago, pcubillos said:

That's probably why Emby is not really pushing for the EDL option either. There is no competition, so the improvement suggestion is not high on the list. 

Those of you on this forum that got it to work on Kodi, can you please post some sites how this can be done. I am getting tired of waiting. If I can get it to work then I can cancel my Emby subscription. I appreciate any help on this. Have a great and safe day!

Do you have your recorded TV library on a smb share, or something that Kodi can 'see'?  If not, it won't work.  If so, PM me, and I will help out.

[pcubillos 3]

14 minutes ago, muzicman0 said:

Do you have your recorded TV library on a smb share, or something that Kodi can 'see'?  If not, it won't work.  If so, PM me, and I will help out.

Thank you for your quick response. I have all my converted movies (MKVs) from the original Blu Ray on my server. I have a media PC that I use to watch my movies over the in-house network.

I will PM you 

[muzicman0 84]

11 minutes ago, pcubillos said:

Thank you for your quick response. I have all my converted movies (MKVs) from the original Blu Ray on my server. I have a media PC that I use to watch my movies over the in-house network.

I will PM you 

you will need to share the media libraries via SMB (Windows Network Share).  Once you have that set up, then set your libraries in Emby to use the optional 'Shared Network Folder Path'.  In Windows, the path will look something like this:  \\192.168.0.20\RecordedTV\

You will need a user name and password configured on the server PC for Windows to make it work.

This tutorial is as good as any on setting up a share: Share a folder, drive, or printer on the network in Windows (iu.edu)

Personally, when it gets to the permissions part, I set it up so 'everyone' has read/write permissions.  That may not be the most secure thing, but my network itself is very secure, and the 'everyone' option gives all users on that PC access.   If that isn't what you want, then simply grant whatever users you want permissions to read/write (write should only be required if you want to delete files from Kodi).  When you try to access the share from another PC (or Shield, etc), you will simply use the username and password for the PC that is hosting the files.

Once you have that working, let me know.  Should be fairly simple from there.

[pcubillos 3]

1 minute ago, muzicman0 said:

you will need to share the media libraries via SMB (Windows Network Share).  Once you have that set up, then set your libraries in Emby to use the optional 'Shared Network Folder Path'.  In Windows, the path will look something like this:  \\192.168.0.20\RecordedTV\

You will need a user name and password configured on the server PC for Windows to make it work.

This tutorial is as good as any on setting up a share: Share a folder, drive, or printer on the network in Windows (iu.edu)

Personally, when it gets to the permissions part, I set it up so 'everyone' has read/write permissions.  That may not be the most secure thing, but my network itself is very secure, and the 'everyone' option gives all users on that PC access.   If that isn't what you want, then simply grant whatever users you want permissions to read/write (write should only be required if you want to delete files from Kodi).  When you try to access the share from another PC (or Shield, etc), you will simply use the username and password for the PC that is hosting the files.

Once you have that working, let me know.  Should be fairly simple from there.

Thank you! I will work on it tonight. Appreciate the help!!!

[sross44 430]

This really is the one thing that keeps driving me back to Plex sadly. Being able to skip commercials (without having to use another program, scripts etc) is a great and useful feature. Plex and Channels DVR both do it natively and I really wish Emby would implement this feature. Sometimes it's not just the server admin that needs to be pleased.... I call this the Wife Effect lol. 

[muzicman0 84]

Any chance on still seeing this implemented?  I am using the plugin Comskipper, which works fine, but it isn't really implemented in a way that gives good feedback (IE: I can't see commercial markers on the time line).  While the plugin works just fine, would be nice to get something that is just a but more integrated.

[BillOatman 596]

Plugin to do it

[muzicman0 84]

Yes, I am using the plugin, I am hoping for something more integrated.  The plugin works great, but it would be great to be able to show commercials on the time line.  I use that feature on Kodi all the time.

 

[tobycth3 1]

On 2/5/2024 at 6:01 PM, BillOatman said:

Plugin to do it

@BillOatmanAny thoughts or ways to include a visual marker in the time bar for the commercial breaks?

[rbjtech 5284]

As far as I am aware, the Plugin is simply using the ability to jump to a time which has been previously identified by the EDL file.   Emby is not 'aware' of these details, nor does it store them.   This is how the original Emby Introskip Plugin worked in the early days.   

It's a missed opportunity, as Emby has the functionality to actually properly store any type of data as 'markers', but since it's introduction a few years ago now, they have only used this for Intro markers.    It could be used for credit/outro markers, previously on markers and simply import from an EDL for the commercial break markers ...

It's the clients that would need the most work - as they would need to recognise the new 'commercial break start/end' hidden markers and act on them.    As the mechanism already exists for IntroStart/IntroEnd (that's what brings up the 'Intro' button..)  - I don't believe it would be that much more work to add the ability to highlight on a timeline (and skip) commercial break markers either .. but that all needs to be done by the Core Dev's - it's nothing a plugin can do.

@BillOatman

Edited September 13, 2024 by rbjtech

[muzicman0 84]

Is there any updates on this?  The plugin works fine, but without timeline marking it is frustrating at best.  I am getting fed up with using Kodi though, so if this is never gonna happen, I may have to look for an alternative that gives proper support for EDL files.