HD-DVDs - correct handling of them please?

[DevonLad 1]

Long-term MB2 user and just installed MB3 Server and Theater (latest Beta versions of both). Very impresssed, and I have managed to find my way around most things, but I am stuck on this.

 

I know that the MB3 Team consider HD-DVDs to be a 'dead format' (which is reasonable, as they are!), but I have about 20 titles in this format that I still watch, either on the original discs, or as MKVs. Now on MB2 I either had the MKVs (which appeared in the Library as they should), or I just had the title Folder with a nested Folder called HVDVD_TS, [e.g. Movies/Swordfish/HVDVD_TS] which was recognised as a movie so that it apperaed an my Library and was correctly recognised by CoverArt.

 

In MB3, those ripped as MKVs show up fine, but with a standard DVD or Season CoverArt design, rather than the HD-DVD CoverArt that I had in MB2.  Those titles that are just empty Folders (as in the Swordfish example above) have 3 problems:

1. in some Server Web Client views, those movies which are just empty Folders do not appear in the Library list at all - the title is just 'missing'
2. in some Server views the 'empty folder' titles do show up, but without any form of CoverArt treatment
3. the 'empty folder' titles are not fetching any Meta Data - the old MB2 backdrops etc show up, but nothing new is fetched

Searching the Forum and the web generally, the only help I can find is to "put HDDVD (or HD-DVD - I have seen both) in the Source Type field in the web client editor".  Perhaps I am being thick, but I cannot find the Source Type field anywhere.

 

I have set CoverArt up so that it should treat HDDVD titles with a HDDVD cover.

 

So, I am guessing that I have to do 'empty folder' titles a different way and that MB3 and CoverArt do not recognise my old Folder titled as HVDVD_TS as a valid format.  Clearly empty Folders can be recognised, because my Blu-rays done like that, with an empty BDMV Folder, all show up fine.

 

I think I need two bits of help:

1. what is the correct way to do 'empty Folder' HD-DVD titles so that they appear in the Libraries and CoverArt recognises them correctly [i have tried naming them HDDVD, HVDVD and HD-DVD]
2. how can I force CoverArt to put an HD-DVD cover on a title that has been ripped as an MKV (it currently assumes the titles is a Blu-ray, presumably based on its HD resolution, despite me having setup an HDDVD Treatment)

Appreciate any help.

[ebr 16178]

To get CA to treat the MKVs properly you want to expand the "Display Settings" part on the edit page and fill in the "Treat image as" field with "HD-DVD".

 

For the folder structures, you could convert those to mkvs as well.

[Luke 42078]

We just haven't done any work on them up to this point so right now the server isn't going to recognize them at all.

[DevonLad 1]

To get CA to treat the MKVs properly you want to expand the "Display Settings" part on the edit page and fill in the "Treat image as" field with "HD-DVD".

 

For the folder structures, you could convert those to mkvs as well.

 

Where do I find "Display Settings" please?  I have gone around the web client (I am assuming that's where it is) several times, but can't find any such option. 

 

I have setup the HDDVD covers treatment in CA [This Item Type > Should Use This Cover], but that doesnt make any difference to any of my HD-DVDs.

[DevonLad 1]

We just haven't done any work on them up to this point so right now the server isn't going to recognize them at all.

 

OK, if I can't get some sort of tempoary fix using ebr's suggestion, then I will just have to treat them as BDs.

 

I hope something is done to recognise them for the final release of MB3 though; I know it's a dead format, but support for it would still be great at some point.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Where do I find "Display Settings" please?  I have gone around the web client (I am assuming that's where it is) several times, but can't find any such option. 

 

I have setup the HDDVD covers treatment in CA [This Item Type > Should Use This Cover], but that doesnt make any difference to any of my HD-DVDs.

Take a look at number 38-C (image is a little dated).http://mediabrowser.tv/community/index.php?/topic/730-mb3-server-using-the-web-client/?p=22266

Edited April 10, 2014 by Happy2Play

[DevonLad 1]

Take a look at number 38-C (image is a little dated).http://mediabrowser.tv/community/index.php?/topic/730-mb3-server-using-the-web-client/?p=22266

 

That's very helpful, but I don't have that 'Display Type' field in my version.

 

I have Version 3.0.5211.41935 of the Server installed, which looks similar to your image of an older version, but without that field [i am looking in Server>Dashboard>Metadata Manager]

[Koleckai Silvestri 1154]

In newer versions it would be Display Type. Open this and you can put the value in the Treat Image As field. Should appear directly under the external ID section.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Version 3.0.5211.41935

select any movie in editor.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2014 by Happy2Play

[DevonLad 1]

In newer versions it would be Display Type. Open this and you can put the value in the Treat Image As field. Should appear directly under the external ID section.

 

OK, got it now, but the reason I couldn't see it is that field does not exist when I am looking at an HD-DVD Movie, but it is there for other formats.

 

So when I have time later I will see if I can change the HD-DVD empty folder to VIDEO_TS, get MB3 to 'see' it, and then see if I can change the Display Type to HD-DVD.

 

Thanks for your help.

[ebr 16178]

Correct - since MB3 does not recognize HD-DVDs those are not movies to us - they are just folders.  That's why I stated above like I did:

 

To get CA to treat the MKVs properly you want to expand the "Display Settings" part on the edit page and fill in the "Treat image as" field with "HD-DVD".

 

For the folder structures, you could convert those to mkvs as well.

 

The MKVs you can do that for.  With the folder structures, you will have to convert them first.