Why does an Emby server outage make my emby very slow?

[Deathsquirrel 745]

I disagree. If typing a rationale for your opinion is a waste of time, why are any of us posting in any threads?

 

A waste of time is adding that as the last line on your post. Nothing is a waste of time. Everything happens for a reason.

 

When things don't happen, it is either arrogance, jealously, or just plain ignorance. People expect money to mean something. In embys case, without internet, or some way for ET to phone home, your money is a waste. Time is a waste. Emby is a waste of time. That's in effect what you are saying...

 

You can bang your head into walls if it makes you happy.  That's easily as effective as asking software companies to have no license enforcement in their code.

[speechles 2055]

You can bang your head into walls if it makes you happy. That's easily as effective as asking software companies to have no license enforcement in their code.

You forget that we started at the bottom, now wer're here. Started at the bottom. Knowing emby isn't bound by shareholders to increase value, or by bond payments which must be met. The service is, not in the same field as companies such as Netflix, Sony, etc..

 

Knowing that the past illustrates the future, you can tell by the past how the future of a product will embrace change. Emby embraces change whole hearted. In this, part of change is accepting economic realities.

 

You harm the consumer buying your product more than you hurt pirates adding drm. It is done at the expense of others who paid for the software. It is done to increase revenue, does nothing to promote customer satisfaction and is a drain on resources having to build a system to keep piracy in check.

 

So you shoot yourself in the foot every 4th time you fire. To me that isn't acceptable. Every 4th time emby needs to call home and can't and denies you of the service you paid for.

 

This is not what every other successful company is doing. You seem to be wanting to argue. You keep making the same point over and over and expecting us to have a different opinion. That's just it, insanity is wanting change while always doing the same thing. You just prolong the inevitable. The drm will eventually be removed. Its just how soon the question.

 

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[Deathsquirrel 745]

You forget that we started at the bottom, now wer're here. Started at the bottom. Knowing emby isn't bound by shareholders to increase value, or by bond payments which must be met. The service is, not in the same field as companies such as Netflix, Sony, etc..

 

Knowing that the past illustrates the future, you can tell by the past how the future of a product will embrace change. Emby embraces change whole hearted. In this, part of change is accepting economic realities.

 

You harm the consumer buying your product more than you hurt pirates adding drm. It is done at the expense of others who paid for the software. It is done to increase revenue, does nothing to promote customer satisfaction and is a drain on resources having to build a system to keep piracy in check.

 

So you shoot yourself in the foot every 4th time you fire. To me that isn't acceptable. Every 4th time emby needs to call home and can't and denies you of the service you paid for.

 

This is not what every other successful company is doing. You seem to be wanting to argue. You keep making the same point over and over and expecting us to have a different opinion. That's just it, insanity is wanting change while always doing the same thing. You just prolong the inevitable. The drm will eventually be removed. Its just how soon the question.

 

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I've been in this industry a few decades now.  I'm not seeing any actual move in the direction you describe.  Adobe isn't spending time making it easier to pirate creative suite.  Microsoft isn't stripping license validation from Windows.  What you're asking for makes zero financial sense for the manufacturer.

 

EBR already said they have a plan to address the symptom  He also pretty clearly said that plan isn't removing the requirement for license validation.  That's good enough for me.

[speechles 2055]

I've been in this industry a few decades now. I'm not seeing any actual move in the direction you describe. Adobe isn't spending time making it easier to pirate creative suite. Microsoft isn't stripping license validation from Windows. What you're asking for makes zero financial sense for the manufacturer.

 

EBR already said they have a plan to address the symptom He also pretty clearly said that plan isn't removing the requirement for license validation. That's good enough for me.

Microsoft isn't huh? What relevance does that have?

 

You keep using the excuse "they do it" so it is used here, so what? So what if they do it. And how is windows even comparable?

 

Then you fall back on ebr said he was working on something. Is that something removing the drm? No. Then how is that relevant?

 

Emby is a small company. A small staff. A small pile of bills. Don't pretend otherwise. Microsoft is a multi billion dollar entity listed on stock exchanges. I use entity because Microsoft isn't just software. It has fingers in everything. Emby isn't embedded into nucs by manufacturers is it? If it were I could see protecting yourself from corporate theft of intellectual property. Now individual users, are of little concern to microsoft.

 

The small company can learn from the bigger. If emby were instead trying to attract manufacturers to preinstall the software I can see the need for Drm. That isn't the case here. The reason for Drm is because you punish the many for the actions of the few. Yay. You win by arrogance. Jealous of p_ _ x. Ignorant of users wishes. Congratulations.

 

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Edited September 9, 2018 by speechles

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It just isn't acceptable. I've paid for something that I can only use when tethered. If I wanted to cut the cord and go offline for 6 months, I wouldn't be able to use what I've bought. It's bad practice.

[Deathsquirrel 745]

Microsoft isn't huh? What relevance does that have?

 

You keep using the excuse "they do it" so it is used here, so what? So what if they do it. And how is windows even comparable?

 

Sorry if I was unclear.  Those were examples.  You're free to substitute the names of essentially every commercial software company for those to examples.  Pretty much all products that cost money to license have some form of license enforcement embedded in the code.  How it's implemented varies but the presence of that code is just about universal.

 

That's not an excuse, that's just reality.  People steal software.  Businesses that sell software must make reasonable efforts to curtail that behavior.  The also have to balance their need to prevent piracy with the need to not interfere with legitimate use of a product...and THAT is where you can get some of what you want.  In this example the Emby team clearly didn't plan for how the software would react in this scenario so they're making changes to prevent this outcome.  That's good IMO.

[speechles 2055]

People steal software.

Let me add in, forks exist of emby with the drm stripped. The apps though know this, and now call home directly not trusting the server is legit. The web client does not. So we can have our cake, eat it, and end the nonsense. But this isn't the right thing to do, just as much as having the drm isn't the right thing to do to prevent this. Yin yang.

 

People steal sofrware while businesses sell software. Businesses react by punishing all users? No. The companies who set unrealistic prices find their product pirated. Realistic prices have legitimate buyers. For example, the recording industry has rampant piracy. Albums leaked before sale. Said leaked album still sells millions. The effect of piracy on prices is a myth. We set a higher price because people pirate. The people pirate because the price is high. Catch 22.

 

People will pirate software.

Prices will not always stay the same, sales etc..

People buy software.

Drm is evil.

 

Facts that never change.

 

 

 

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Edited September 9, 2018 by speechles

[Deathsquirrel 745]

People will pirate software.

Prices will not always stay the same, sales etc..

People buy software.

Drm is evil.

 

Facts that never change.

 

One of your facts is clearly opinion and it's why we disagree   I don't give a rip about DRM that doesn't impinge my ability to use the product as I wish.  It's not inherently evil at all.  A hammer is a tool.  Murder with a hammer is evil.  DRM is a tool...

[speechles 2055]

One of your facts is clearly opinion and it's why we disagree   I don't give a rip about DRM that doesn't impinge my ability to use the product as I wish.  It's not inherently evil at all.  A hammer is a tool.  Murder with a hammer is evil.  DRM is a tool...

 

Yes, a hammer is a tool. In the absense of the internet the hammer remains. It is tangible. Has mass. A hammer is... real.

 

Software is.. not tangible, not touchable.. well, unless its on a medium that supports its storage. Then its software on a storage medium. A floppy disc. Emby isn't providing these.

 

What we get is intangible it is simply digital data. We are sold an idea that works with this digital data. Now in the presence of internet the idea works. In the absense of such, the digital data with which we parlayed our monetary units is unavailable. A hammer is.. not affected by this. Therefore DRM is equivalent to a metal box placed around the hammer. A safe. Do you have the combination? Then you can't use the hammer. They don't sell hammers in safes do they? Then to use the hammer, you call a 1-800 # and get the combination to the safe. Unlock it and hammer away. This is DRM.

 

So making analogies isn't required. Just use the medium itself. Digital data is emby. DRM is a safe around a hammer.

Edited September 9, 2018 by speechles

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