Card Titles Missing

[speechles 2055]

 

The last 3, have the name embedded into the image and ruin the image. Instead, why isn't it just giving the name below in the card like the rest? I dislike that overlay on the image when its unnecessary and could just show below in the normal spot like a normal image would. I wish it could just go away. Can it go away? Is there a way to make it stop doing this to images that arent displaying the actual title somewhere in the artwork? Please.. pretty please.. It makes it look awful when you just want to cleanly show people something and get them to try emby. Thanks

 

Now I get it, some people might not use the full card with the short-line-1/short-line-2 underneath. At those times, sure go ahead and do what you do. But when it is showing the short lines already, it isn't required to not show them as short lines and instead mangle the image.. Please fix this @@Luke. Thanks again. :^)

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[Luke 42078]

what screen is this? can you show the full screenshot? thanks.

[speechles 2055]

 

The main movie page. Sorted by runtime/descending. So the larger ones appear first. Obviously Star-Gate is wrong. I was in the process of finding offenders this way and fix their issues when I noticed it looks bad. That others in the room even said it looked like I f'd up a setting. There is no setting to control this. They told me to just use plex and I told them to kindly stfu and eat a bowl of d**ks. We are good friends so arrogantly telling others horrible things to do is always taken as a joke. But really.. not joking.. it is ugly when it does this.

[Happy2Play 9780]

@@Luke @@speechles

 

This a Thumb view issue with media without Thumb/Landscape images.  So all media without a true Thumb/Landscape image will be missing title in Thumb view.  You can change to Thumb Card or add thumb/landscape image.

[speechles 2055]

Also, see my 2nd image above. Why is there an alpha picker when I chose to sortby runtime in descending order? It seems wacky too.. Maybe this should be based on hours/minutes or something. But certainly not alphabetical. Just my opinion. When others see emby they pick it apart and I am left mouth agape. I am bringing this up because it is seen as a defect.

 

@@Happy2Play I understand you can change it. But the point here is, the system should be smart enough to know.. Oh.. there is room to put this information to show this user. I do not need to mangle the image to fit this information into it in this case. It needs to be smarter when things like this occur. Not just assume in every case it should be mangling images.

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

But at the same time it is telling you is does not have the image the view is requesting.  

[speechles 2055]

But at the same time it is telling you is does not have the image the view is requesting.  

 

It tells me it is a defect. There is perfectly fine space for the text to fit. Instead of doing so, it put it ridiculously into the image. Now I know, I don't have all the images. That isn't the point.

 

Focus on this part.

 

1) There is room to put text underneath

2) It put text inside the image, and nothing underneath

 

That is the entire point. And to a lesser degree, why when I sortby runtime in descending order is there a alpha picker shown? instead of nothing, or perhaps hours/minutes picker?

 

These small details get skipped, and it either shows the beta testers arent doing there jobs, are there even beta testers giving issues? Or somehow nobody uses the main movie screen? They never change the sort order from name? How do these things get skipped, when I notice them within 2 minutes of using the webclient. It disheartens me. If I wanted to know if I was missing images I would hope the metadata editor would be so kind. I would not and do not expect the web client side to ruin it's look just to let me know I was missing things. I know I am missing things. To care about them is moot they don't exist in the resolution required. What is there should work without being labeled.

 

Tiny little details that everybody should have noticed long ago arent being noticed until the release version contains these flaws. Beta tesers, developers, people on the inside circle of this forum that is hidden from mere users. Those people need to do better. Find the small tiny details, make them known, have people address them and fix them. Dot the i's cross the t's make it look polished.

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

I guess it is a personal preference.  To me it is doing what it was designed to do.  Let you know a alternated image is being used as you don't have the proper one, with the correct image everything displays properly.  But that is just my take on it.

Edited August 21, 2018 by Happy2Play

[speechles 2055]

Designed to do?

 

Sure.. I can see where having it on the image is indeed. Nice.

 

In this case, you can see above in the images. Which ones look stupid? It is clear.

 

Now when new people install the server, guess what view it gives them? Yep, its the same I use.

 

Now they get the movies I have and the providers lack the resolution which comes set as default.

Now as they build their collection. They wonder like me.. Why no one else has mentioned this?

 

Then others say, "It was designed that way."

 

You mean to say there are more users using emby to curate their collections than users who use emby to play their collections?

Do you see how ridiculous that sounds.

 

It does that so that, people can use emby as a media manager.. okay...but then why does it do it on the screens where obviously the information can be displayed cleanly and polished looking?

 So the administrator can fix the images that don't exist. Oh.. So even when I log in as a mere user. Why then does it still do this? That user can't fix it. Is it so they can ask me, as the administrator to fix it? Well god damn, thats mighty white of you master emby...

 

So people use emby just to curate not really for the player. Okay. I guess some do do that and I guess in that case the web client works as their manager to tell images that are broken. A normal person sees this as a defect. There is no other rational way to see it. But keep bumping this post. It's okay. I do not mind.

 

I'll just keep telling everyone like I always have. It's a longstanding defect.

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

Me personally am not going to used a view that doesn't have the proper images, unless I am going to do the work to make them look right.  So the sever lets me know what images to update.

Edited August 21, 2018 by Happy2Play

[speechles 2055]

Do the work? Doesn't emby import and scan in metadata for your images. It says it does on emby.media website. What work is there else to do. It says emby does it all.

 

 

 

They say emby didn't get some images, and instead ruins some with this watermark of text, instead of putting the text where it goes like the rest did.

 

Now they go.. hmm.. and wait for an answer..

 

Then you say, well, having it look right requires work.

You say, Emby does that to show you need the image it lacks. It makes that image on the fly.

 

Okay they say, I get it.. But why doesn't it repeat the text underneath then, that shows in the image. Or better yet, just not do that to the image, and show the text under normal?

 

You say, because the images are lacking.

 

They say, where you get the images? I just ran emby it missed em.

 

You say, go get em

 

They cry, and pull their hair out, and install plex.

 

It is the small details that catch the most eyes. A lack of detail shows a lack of care and oversight. It shows you don't truly use your own product or test every method. It shows you do not care if others may use other views than you. It makes you look arrogant.

 

https://emby.media/about.html

 

Your media, your way

okay.. so confusion.. my way is.. well.. I discussed my way and it isn't that.

 

Emby organizes your content into easy and elegant presentations. Your personal media will never look the same.

oh really.. except not on the webclient it is view dependent. That part is missing there.

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[speechles 2055]

@@Happy2Play honestly.. now be honest.. the 2 images of mine. You have to agree the issue there is emby. You can't just keep making excuses. It looks awful. Images exist but for some reason emby can't figure out should it show text underneath or in the image. Confused it is. Looks confused. Confuses users. Confuses me. Confusing.

[Happy2Play 9780]

@@Happy2Play honestly.. now be honest.. the 2 images of mine. You have to agree the issue there is emby. You can't just keep making excuses. It looks awful. Images exist but for some reason emby can't figure out should it show text underneath or in the image. Confused it is. Looks confused. Confuses users. Confuses me. Confusing.

 

I understand what you are saying but the view is using a Backdrop image and Emby is reflecting that. 

 

Next confusion will be why do my images not have logo or name on them.  Because they are not Thumbs.

[PenkethBoy 2068]

The issue is the missing images that emby cant download from the providers you have enabled or not

 

the images dont "exist" and a substitute is being used in its place that displays differently - to give you a hint - if it didn't you would get a tutti frutti square instead and yes they look ugly

 

Not that confusing - just a choice that was made by the dev's - in an attempt to make it look more appealing with missing info/files

[speechles 2055]

I understand what you are saying but the view is using a Backdrop image and Emby is reflecting that. 

 

Next confusion will be why do my images not have logo or name on them.  Because they are not Thumbs.

 

Indeed.. the resolution of the image fits the frame. Why does it need the text overlaid. Oh, its not a true backdrop and given the logo inside the image. Okay. But.. it doesn't match the image stored on my server. Clearly why do some have logos and some not is clear to a user. It matches the images you have on your server to the T. Now emby has taken it upon itself to try to be nice and make the image look better. Fitting a title in, where one didnt exist. Only emby didnt do it in an artistic or beautiful way. It did it like a machine with a big grey watermark. Okay. But there was clearly room under the image to lay this text. You mean the emby function laying watermarks on images is just willy nilly? It isn't smart enough to say, wait.. There is room for this thumbnail to display text, and work just like a backdrop. There is no need for this removing text underneath and watermarking it onto the image. There isn't a brain telling it that.

 

Things need to evolve from the one view point of mind. Please testers test other views, find even the most minor detail incorrect and bring it up. Thats half the issue is the haphazard nature of this project. Sometimes you wonder is the cart leading the horse or the horse really in charge. Is there such a race to add features that any other details are left to shine in sun? It can't be that hard to find testers who actually test can it? I see people with beta tester and alpha tester under their name. They really do nothing? Strip them of their rank. Get new bodies. Do something.. lol

[speechles 2055]

The issue is the missing images that emby cant download from the providers you have enabled or not

 

the images dont "exist" and a substitute is being used in its place that displays differently - to give you a hint - if it didn't you would get a tutti frutti square instead and yes they look ugly

 

Not that confusing - just a choice that was made by the dev's - in an attempt to make it look more appealing with missing info/files

 

It has an image. Notice the image emby destroyed underneath the overlay?

 

When a landscape doesn't exist, use the fanart without destroying it if the text can fit underneath. Is it that hard to accomplish? Why is that alpha picker there when I sort by runtime? Nobody tests these things. Seriously.. It's a big issue with emby how clumsy things look. Not knocking, but adding themes maybe added to the complications here? It isn't hard to fix.

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[speechles 2055]

Not to double post. Went to edit and didn't edit.. so see post above this.. lol

 

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

After looking at the view options again, why are there title displayed in Thumb view?  Isn't that why there is a Thumb card view?  Card View resolves your issue.

 

Same with Poster and Poster Card?

 

 

Otherwise what is the point of the two views as they are the same (some shading differences)?

Edited August 21, 2018 by Happy2Play

[speechles 2055]

Yeah, see there is something odd. I used that thumb view to get the transparent area for the text below. So its just an image frame, with floating text. I assumed thumb card view would provide a black rim or overlay under the text to enclose the image into a frame card. I didn't want that. I wanted the transparent floating effect similar to blue neon and the official roku app. The closest is the windows media center theme.

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[PenkethBoy 2068]

This is obviously hard to understand but you have missing thumb images - so its using a background image instead but treating it differently - you dont like lthat - change the view or put thumb/landscape images in the media folder.

 

The image has an overlay its not been changed/destroyed

 

It appears its a big issue for you - but me not so much

 

Yes it could be changed but doubt its very high on the priority list

[speechles 2055]

Okay, something oddball indeed.. Ghosts are in my machine?

 

Above: Thumb Card

 

Above: Thumb

 

See the difference? Why is thumb making my images look worse when the text can still be displayed underneath? Windows Media Theme...

 

@@PenkethBoy btw, has nothing to do with that. See above. Explains it all, yes? yes..

Edited August 21, 2018 by speechles

[PenkethBoy 2068]

Go check your folders - kill bill etc will have a missing landscape/thumb image - just checked for one of mine that has the overlay like yours - and a thumb and it goes away

[speechles 2055]

Go check your folders - kill bill etc will have a missing landscape/thumb image - just checked for one of mine that has the overlay like yours - and a thumb and it goes away

 

brah.. please.. let me go into detail with my pictures.. For every word you type I am getting 1000 for every pic. I understand what you are saying. But.. did you not see my picture? Why is thumb card right, but thumb is jacked? this is the issue, not about what I have, my political affiliation, how long my schlong is.. is simply.. it is what it is.. no more.. no less

 

Nice looking sort menu, even go so far as to say sexy... but messed up images.. in thumb view

 

Same thumb view..but in genre, messed up sort menu, fugly as fug gets...... but the images arent messed up.

(3 hours until dead, 3-headed shark and 4got10 missing the images but perfectly fine here. not ruined by overlay)

 

There are two different mechanisms for things. Here on the genre, it does it right, but man is that a goofy mechanism to choose filters and such.. Why does it look nothing like the main movie page one? Why such a non consistent look? 1995 called. They want their design problems back.. lol..

 

BTW.. I  <3 EMBY

(and when you love something, it makes you mad when it misbehaves)

Edited August 22, 2018 by speechles

[Happy2Play 9780]

I think I somewhat understand what you are saying about quality, view (Thumb) in url shows "quality=70" and other view (genre) "quality=90".

 

But there are multiple things being discussed here.  As for the Title to me this is a defect in Thumbs and Posters actually showing Titles or the Card views can be deleted.  To me Thumb should be the same as unchecking "Show Titles" in genre filter.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Happy2Play

[PenkethBoy 2068]

Sorry - but you are explaining yourself very badly and those images look the same - but comparing a screen grab is not a good way to compare and the shark and 3 hours images are probably poor to start with

 

Yes card view are redundant as all they do is move the text to be left justified from center

 

Genre view is fixed format so nothing we can do with that. - sorry thats wrong you can change it

Edited August 22, 2018 by PenkethBoy