Can we have the ability to turn off all metadata in Music?

[negativzeroe 80]

Or at least show "most recent album" as artist art? Something to have some sort of sanity. Half the time it just skips the audiodb and only pulls from Musicbrainz, and for some reason can pull Insomnium, but not Kansas, Journey or Incubus? What about Last.fm?

 

There used to be settings in the server dashboard that you could verify and re-arrange the sources by preferred order, but apparently that is just gone.

 

Edit, added image again because it didn't take the first time.

Edited June 26, 2018 by negativzeroe

[Luke 42079]

If you make sure your albums have a musicbrainz id then it will pull from audio db.

[d00zah 149]

Settings are now 'per library' & located in the 'Library > Metadata' config tab. Select 'Music Artists' in 'Customize for media type:' field.

 

Artists are currently identified by name, rather than any embedded tags (although there are improvements in beta), so best solution is to manually Identify (3-dot menu) & if necessary, provide your own images.

 

In a perfect world, it would all happen automagically. Fortunately, things evolve.

[negativzeroe 80]

If you make sure your albums have a musicbrainz id then it will pull from audio db.

 

They have mb id, but I have to go to Identify, then try each of the 4-7 entries that all have the name. Typically it's the last one that has anything.

 

Settings are now 'per library' & located in the 'Library > Metadata' config tab. Select 'Music Artists' in 'Customize for media type:' field.

 

Artists are currently identified by name, rather than any embedded tags (although there are improvements in beta), so best solution is to manually Identify (3-dot menu) & if necessary, provide your own images.

 

In a perfect world, it would all happen automagically. Fortunately, things evolve.

 

Thank you! Problem with providing my own images is that only half my my artists have them and I spent nearly three hours trying to get to C. I'll check out the beta and see what kind of magic has been happening.

 

Are there any plans to add last.fm and/or discogs to the searcher? A lot of my bands don't even exist on audiodb.

Edited June 26, 2018 by negativzeroe

[d00zah 149]

I find many artists' MusicBrainz pages have a Discogs link (on the right) which, more often than not, have a suitable image, although cropping may be required. And, as always, Google (in this case) is your friend.

[negativzeroe 80]

I find many artists' MusicBrainz pages have a Discogs link (on the right) which, more often than not, have a suitable image, although cropping may be required. And, as always, Google (in this case) is your friend.

 

Yeah that is why it's taking so long. And some of the time even Google doesn't have any images so I have to go find their Facebook page, last.fm page or metal-archives.com page. It's been different with each one as to what medium has any info on them, and even then some are any at all, which Is why I'd prefer to just turn metadata off like a more traditional music player, so I don't have half my library tagged and the other half broken because that half is all bands that did like one album and then disbanded or something.

[Luke 42079]

If you have to use identify then they must not have the right music brainz id.

[negativzeroe 80]

Right but I don't think that is Emby's fault, (or maybe it is idk how the algorithms work) I think MBz and TADB just suck. Creed is another example of one that wasn't properly tagged.

 

 

 

But again, then there is Archeon, barely anything at MBz, doesn't exist on TADB, but here is their last.fm profile and it's nice and full.

 

https://musicbrainz.org/artist/d31a8fc5-768b-4652-bc93-e069e6e39862

 

https://www.last.fm/music/Archeon

 

If my library consisted of nothing but the big names it probably wouldn't be this bad, after four tries identifying Creed, it finally grabbed, but I have a lot of bands like Archeon that makes doing it all manually a major task.

 

Edit, should clarify that when I select Identify, was just putting in band name. But still going through half my library and manually entering MBz id's sounds like a chore. Especially if it ends up being for nought in the end.

Edited June 26, 2018 by negativzeroe

[d00zah 149]

Like you, my library consists of ALOT of obscure music. My thinking was...  spend some (long!) time up front to get things 'right' (your OCD MAY vary) & never deal with it again.

 

Suggestion: Make sure to archive the 'metadata/artists' folder once you have everything to your liking, to avoid this exercise in the future.

[Spaceboy 2573]

If you have to use identify then they must not have the right music brainz id

I'm not certain this is correct. I have all my albums tagged with a correct musicbrainz id. All albums are identified correctly per the tags. But it doesn't seem that to have any effect on the identification of artists. in fact the musicbrainz id for the artist within a correctly identified album is not filled in by emby. it seems that artists are identified by name only, and very poorly as you would expect given the number of duplicate artists on musicbrainz.

 

Can you explain better how this should work?

[d00zah 149]

Pretty thorough discussion here:

 

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/57759-incorrect-musicbrainz-id/

[Luke 42079]

What I mean by wrong mbz id is that many artists and albums have duplicate records on musicbrainz.

 

So while you might have one of those mbz ids, if it's not the one that audio db is using then you won't get any images from audio db.

[Spaceboy 2573]

ok, i'm not sure who is responding to who here. my question is:

 

if an album is correctly tagged with a musicbrainzid then why is emby not able to identify the artist from being associated with the album id?

 

i have many albums that are correctly tagged with an album id but no artist id

[Vicpa 611]

ok, i'm not sure who is responding to who here. my question is:

 

if an album is correctly tagged with a musicbrainzid then why is emby not able to identify the artist from being associated with the album id?

 

i have many albums that are correctly tagged with an album id but no artist id

 

Hi @@Luke

 

I am confused also. the server never seems to id an album artist from the tags in the file at least it never displays it.

 

this is Aretha Franklin, not obscure by any measure. 

 

 

I have been manually fixing/adding them for ages.

 

 

Thanks,

vicpa

[Spaceboy 2573]

Hi @@Luke

 

I am confused also. the server never seems to id an album artist from the tags in the file at least it never displays it.

 

this is Aretha Franklin, not obscure by any measure.

 

 

I have been manually fixing/adding them for ages.

 

 

Thanks,

vicpa

this is exactly what I am asking, thanks!

[Luke 42079]

ok, i'm not sure who is responding to who here. my question is:

 

if an album is correctly tagged with a musicbrainzid then why is emby not able to identify the artist from being associated with the album id?

 

i have many albums that are correctly tagged with an album id but no artist id

Are the songs also tagged? Because yes the artist lookup will extract artist ids from the songs but might not be getting it from the albums. I'll have to check on that. Thanks.

[Guest asrequested]

Even using identify, I've had to manually edit so much of my music. I go to mbz grab to specific id, paste it in...and I still need to edit.

[Luke 42079]

Can you go over an example?

[Guest asrequested]

I've been working through correcting my music, so next time it happens, I'll be able to show an example.

[Spaceboy 2573]

Are the songs also tagged? Because yes the artist lookup will extract artist ids from the songs but might not be getting it from the albums. I'll have to check on that. Thanks.

yes, i tagged them all through musicbrainz picard, it was a long exercise!

[Luke 42079]

Can someone provide a specific audio file for testing? a zipped up artist folder would be great so that i can test an identical scenario. thanks.

[PenkethBoy 2068]

PM sent

[Luke 42079]

Thanks.

[negativzeroe 80]

Update, Ok after going through my entire library with Picard, I've got everything pretty much corrected.

 

Two things, firstly, if there were a last.fm scraper, all that manual work I did for my artists would not have been necessary save like 2.

 

Secondly, How can I get rid of featured artists? For example, in Picard, I took out the featured artist from all the artist fields, and used the plugin to put it in the track name instead. But I still have the artist.

 

Example:

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EDIT: Moved my collection to another location, restarted server to remove music because just scanning wouldn't, then added back. They are gone.

 

What would be nice though (unless I'm missing it somewhere) is to prefer embedded images to albums rather than downloading? A lot of the ones it picks up are ugly and clipped.

Edited July 3, 2018 by negativzeroe

[Spaceboy 2573]

@@Luke, any progress here please?