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jachin99
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Right now I have my music videos and concerts nested inside of their own folder structure with each file going inside of a folder with a given artist's name.  Can I or should I nest these videos inside of the artist's folders for my music library instead?  I am looking for the best way to get accurate metadata, while ensuring smooth playback in every client.  I use EMC, EWA and Emby UWP on XB1.  Thanks.

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Can I or should I nest these videos inside of the artist's folders for my music library instead?

 

Currently no but I think this is something we should allow and support in the future.

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aspdend
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Currently no but I think this is something we should allow and support in the future.

I agree - this would be the best way to organise all of these

Tremas
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In my setup, music videos already show up under the appropriate artists in the music section. All of my music videos are in a separate "Music Videos" folder and not mixed in with music files. There is actually a library type for music videos, so I have created a separate library containing the "Music Videos" folder. The music videos are named <artist> - <song>.ext and I have also included a .nfo file for each. Emby correctly picks up the artists and matches them in the music section. It's worked well so far (better than Plex in my opinion).

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In my setup, music videos already show up under the appropriate artists in the music section. All of my music videos are in a separate "Music Videos" folder and not mixed in with music files. There is actually a library type for music videos, so I have created a separate library containing the "Music Videos" folder. The music videos are named - .ext and I have also included a .nfo file for each. Emby correctly picks up the artists and matches them in the music section. It's worked well so far (better than Plex in my opinion).

 

Thanks for the feedback !

jachin99
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In my setup, music videos already show up under the appropriate artists in the music section. All of my music videos are in a separate "Music Videos" folder and not mixed in with music files. There is actually a library type for music videos, so I have created a separate library containing the "Music Videos" folder. The music videos are named <artist> - <song>.ext and I have also included a .nfo file for each. Emby correctly picks up the artists and matches them in the music section. It's worked well so far (better than Plex in my opinion).

I tried this, and I tried nesting each video in a folder with the artist's name, and I get about the same results.  When I rename my videos (all of which are in a folder labled music videos comprising an emby library that is also named music videos) I named them litterally artist - song including the - symbol in the name.  Is this right?  What kind of metadata are you getting, Backdrops? disc covers? Thanks.

aspdend
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I tried this, and I tried nesting each video in a folder with the artist's name, and I get about the same results.  When I rename my videos (all of which are in a folder labled music videos comprising an emby library that is also named music videos) I named them litterally artist - song including the - symbol in the name.  Is this right?  What kind of metadata are you getting, Backdrops? disc covers? Thanks.

I'd be interested to know as well - I have a separate library called music videos and I have folders per artist and under each artist I have the videos each in a folder labelled artist name - title and the videos are in the separate folders labelled with artist name - title.ext and the metadata seems hit and miss

Tremas
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Hi guys. I have found that most systems (Kodi, Plex, etc) don't have a great way to handle Music Videos, but I get the best results with Emby when using .nfo files to store the metadata. I originally set things up to work across Kodi and Emby, but have used Emby almost exclusively now that Theater has the ability to shuffle, filter and sort the based on year, genre, etc. My music videos show up in the music video library and also under the artists in the music section. I guess the trick is to make sure that Emby picks up the artist metadata. I don't think this is the only way to do it,  but here is my setup:

  • Folder which contains all music videos
  • File naming: artist name - title.ext ("The Cure - Just Like Heaven.mp4")
  • I use MediaMonkey ( http://www.mediamonkey.com)to add the meta data (artist, album, genres, year, album art, etc.) and to automate the file naming/location
  • I then use a MediaMonkey script to output a .nfo file with the same naming convention (The Cure - Just Like Heaven.nfo) for each video (https://github.com/scott967/Music-video-nfo-generator)
  • The .nfo file could also be generated or changed using a simple text editor
  • The format of the .nfo file can follow Kodi conventions (https://kodi.wiki/view/NFO_files/Music_videos)

Personally, I don't like nesting the video files in an artist folder - I keep it a flat structure (all music video files and nfo's in the same folder). This is a personal preference and it shouldn't effect the way the system reads the nfo metadata. The advantage to keeping a flat structure is that I can go to the Music Videos collection to see all the videos sorted by year (or whatever I choose) and then filter/shuffle/make a playlist without having to go into each artist folder to find tracks. If I want to see videos sorted by artist, I go into the music section or search to find and artist, and all of the videos are there (listed at the bottom of the page). Music Video files are small enough that you should be able to just create a test folder with a few videos and add it as a new Music Video library to see which way you prefer. Use notepad to throw in a simple .nfo with artist, genre, and year tags and see if it works for you.

 

Another way to do this may be editing each file's metadata using the Emby metadata manager, but I find that using a .nfo file keeps everything centralized and tends to work cross-platform (Kodi, Plex, etc). If I edit a field in MeidaMonkey, it's super easy to just re-run the .nfo script and it overwrites the previous one.

 

Just as a side note, I don't make .nfo files for any other type of media. Emby's online metadata sources work great for movies and TV (Music is touchy but it works if you fuss with it). Nobody seems to handle Music Videos great, but Emby comes closest. I haven't played with the IMVDB metadata import because I like my setup and they still have big gaps in their database - but it's a good start and I'm glad it's there.

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Tremas
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Oh, one more note. If you embed album art in the video file (through MediaMonkey or your editor of choice) Emby will display that. If you don't have embedded album art, or an image in the folder with the same name as the file, Emby will create a thumbnail from some point in the video.

 

Also, if you make changes to the art or .nfo you may need to run a metadata update in Emby to pick it up.

 

Cheers!

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Great info, thanks.

jachin99
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@@Tremas is any of this automated, or are you manually editing the .nfo, and tags for each?  I have audioshell to manually edit things so I don't think I need mediamonkey.  If you have to edit all of your .nfo files by hand then I might not need the script for that either.  Just making sure its going to be easier before I start installing things.  Thanks.

Tremas
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@@Tremas is any of this automated, or are you manually editing the .nfo, and tags for each? I have audioshell to manually edit things so I don't think I need mediamonkey. If you have to edit all of your .nfo files by hand then I might not need the script for that either. Just making sure its going to be easier before I start installing things. Thanks.

Sorry for the late reply.

 

I automate the lookup of album info through MediaMonkey since that is what I was already using for music. It works for both music and video files. The script within MediaMonkey then lets me automatically export nfo files in bulk. I don’t manually edit the nfo files in my process, but I wanted to make sure that I mentioned that it could be done that way because it makes for an easy way to test the system. I’m sure there are other ways to automate the nfo creation without MediaMonkey as they are simple text files.

 

 

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jachin99
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Alright thanks, I'll take a look. Is all of this free in media monkey?

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Thanks a million for this info, awesome work. I will definitely try this myself. And yes Emby handles music videos way better than other media managers.

 

Oh, one more note. If you embed album art in the video file (through MediaMonkey or your editor of choice) Emby will display that. If you don't have embedded album art, or an image in the folder with the same name as the file, Emby will create a thumbnail from some point in the video.

 

Also, if you make changes to the art or .nfo you may need to run a metadata update in Emby to pick it up.

 

Cheers!

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On 10/05/2018 at 16:56, Tremas said:

In my setup, music videos already show up under the appropriate artists in the music section. All of my music videos are in a separate "Music Videos" folder and not mixed in with music files. There is actually a library type for music videos, so I have created a separate library containing the "Music Videos" folder. The music videos are named <artist> - <song>.ext and I have also included a .nfo file for each. Emby correctly picks up the artists and matches them in the music section. It's worked well so far (better than Plex in my opinion).

will this behavior translate to Kodi via Emby connect? or is this Emby specific? I wasn't even aware that this was possible. thank you so much for the info.

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On 9/9/2020 at 6:09 PM, Ayala said:

will this behavior translate to Kodi via Emby connect? or is this Emby specific? I wasn't even aware that this was possible. thank you so much for the info.

For best results with that I would use a music videos library.

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