1 box for emby server & 1 box for NAS vs 1 box for both

[Eddie 12]

Current setup

FreeNAS Server holding all my media and running emby as a plugin

 

Future

I am considering moving my emby server to a another computer but still keeping my media files on the FreeNAS box.

The Emby server and the FreeNAS box will be connected via a 1 Gigabit cat 5e ethernet cable running through a switch

 

Fears

When a client tries to stream a movie, the movie will have to be first streamed to emby server from FreeNAS where the movie is located, and then it will be streamed to the client essentially doubling the bandwidth used inside my network compared to my prior setup of having emby and NAS all in 1 computer?

 

or will this only happen if i need to transcode a file for the client?

 

It just sounds terribly ineffecient

 

Thanks in Advance

 

[mastrmind11 722]

Correct.  It will direct play from the source when applicable. However, I'm curious why you think it would matter.

[Eddie 12]

In terms of performance I would imagine it faster for emby to access the media through a Harddrive connected to computer through sata vs a 1 gig Ethernet connection... I don't know if by separating emby from the source media it would slow down things down like seek time in a movie or browsing library or transcoding movies ...

[PenkethBoy 2068]

A 1 gig network is more than enough to handle a 4k movie being streamed - actually more than one

 

Remember unless you are using a client app directly on the same machine as the emby server - all data is going via the network in one way or another

 

Things might be slightly faster done all local but to be honest its not going to be noticeable in 99% of cases.

 

A lot of people use a NAS with Emby and some use local storage - its down to preference/need

 

I use both options and there is no real world significant difference - the only difference i do see is down to the speed of the cpu of the server - faster cpu = faster scans

 

i7 takes 37 seconds and my Qnap (celeron) takes 2 minutes or so - both scanning the same media (copies of each other)

[Eddie 12]

Thank you for the response it was very helpful... I'm running my 5 terrabyte freenas server with the bare minimum of only 8 gigs of ram which is the max for my board... I also happen be running madsonic and emby on the same server and wondering if I'm running to much on insufficient hardware so I'm think of breaking out all my services on separate boxes to see how it goes

[PenkethBoy 2068]

or get a newer m/b that supports more ram?

 

are you seeing issues or imagining them? 

[Eddie 12]

Most likely i am imagining... movies stream fine... I feel when viewing my home pictures from my cell phone... a page of 100 pictures that are around 4 megs each loads the thumbnails very slow.... i also cant seem to transfer data faster than 50 megabytes per second from my freenas to my desktop... I know it could be 100000 things but I thought it wouldnt hurt to try separating things

[PenkethBoy 2068]

well the mobile "issue" sounds par for large pictures - could be wireless speed or the speed of the phone or.....

 

50MB/s is low approx half what you should get - mines flat at 118MB/s from my QNAP - could be the disks have problems, driver issues - is it a m/b network interface or separate card - non intel by chance?

 

Cant help with FreeNAs as i only looked at it briefly 5+ years ago and ran away very quickly

[Eddie 12]

I installed Intel nics in freenas and client computer which boosted me to 50 megabytes per second but something is holding me back from hitting 100.. I have 2 wd 5 terrabyte reds in raid 1... so i dont know.. most need to just go buy some decent hardware for my freenas...

[PenkethBoy 2068]

maybe

 

but i would fix the issue before spending cash as you could end up buying new stuff and find you still have the problem

 

have you asked on the freenas forums?

[Eddie 12]

I tried asking on the freenas forums they attempted to help but it didn't really work the freenas box is running an AMD system I'm wondering if that could be part of the cause I don't know the FreeBSD compatibility with AMD

[PenkethBoy 2068]

do you have a third pc to test speeds with?

 

is there a disk speed checker on freenas? those 5tb disks should be able to saturate your network at 100MB/s +

 

might be the drivers in freenas for your network cards or on your pc do not work well - or settings you have

 

as you say could be a lot of things

[Eddie 12]

The mobo cpu case and psu i got for free.

I upgraded the RAM, and HD, and installed the intel nic and its been chugging along just fine 

My best guess is its an AMD system so in the future i may upgrade to something better

I did run iperf test and dd command and conclusion at the end of everything was there was something wrong with smb because the issue would only pop up when i transferred files in the gui but not using commands like cp and iperf... it was really wierd i just gave up after a few months

 

OS: FreeNAS-11.0-U2 (up to date)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/FM2-A55M-E33.html
CPU: Phenom II X6 1045T
RAM: 8 Gigs of DDR3 ECC
Hard Drive: 6 TB RED WD Drives X 2 in RAID 1
Network Card: Intel PWLA8391GT Desktop Adapter PRO/1000 GT 10/100/1000Mbps PCI 1 x RJ45

[PenkethBoy 2068]

are you copying to an Apple by chance?

[Eddie 12]

This was my client and server.. my client now changed to a Ryzen 1600X with ubuntu 16.04.3

 

i pmed... you the forum topic on another forum of me trying to trouble shoot the problem.. didnt want to post in this forum because i didnt know if it was against the rules...

this week i most likely wont have too much time to test the setup but... i should have more time next week

 

Switch: Netgear GS108

FreeNAS
OS: FreeNAS-11.0-U2 (up to date)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/FM2-A55M-E33.html
CPU: Phenom II X6 1045T
RAM: 8 Gigs of DDR3 ECC
Hard Drive: 6 TB RED WD Drives X 2 in RAID 1 ..... 1.7 Terrabytes used with around 3.7 available.
Network Card: Intel PWLA8391GT Desktop Adapter PRO/1000 GT 10/100/1000Mbps PCI 1 x RJ45

DESKTOP (Client)
OS: Ubuntu Mate 16.04.3 (up to date)
Motherboard: M4A78T-E
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M4A78TE/
CPU: Phenom II X4 980 Processor
RAM: 12 Gigs of DDR3
Hard Drive: Crucial® 250 Gig MX200 SSD  with 555 Sequential Read and 500 Sequential Write
http://www.crucial.com/wcsstore/Cru...crucial-mx200-ssd-product-flyer-letter-en.pdf
Network Card: Intel PWLA8391GT Desktop Adapter PRO/1000 GT 10/100/1000Mbps PCI 1 x RJ45