pgriffith 88 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi all Is there a way to disable this feature so specials only exist in the specials folder. I HATE them mixed in with normal episodes I've looked everywhere for an option to no avail. Help ? Cheers
Solution Starkadius 219 Posted February 18, 2014 Solution Posted February 18, 2014 Edit the series you don't want specials to appear in seasons, when in the metadata editor scroll down and look for Display Settings. Uncheck "Display specials within season they aired in." and save. I may be wrong but I don't think there is a universal way of doing this in the server settings so you may have to do these changes for every series. 1
pagali 62 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Another factor to consider... this only works if all your specials were broadcast on TV, and are listed in TVDB, and you have them identified the same as shown there. For me, it only works with Battlestar Gallactica, because my other series have specials extracted from my DVD or Bluray boxsets. Most of those aren't listed in TVDB, but MB3 insists on trying to assign them a specials number.... even though I have the series marked to not collect metadata! I drove myself crazy going back in and removing the arbitrary episode numbers that MB3 kept insisting on assigning and displaying... finally just recently gave up and moved my TV specials into their own collection, designated as Home Videos and marked for NO METADATA. All except for BSG.... this includes Big Bang Theory, Deadwood, Dexter, Game of Thrones, Justified, West Wing, X-files... to name a few. It would be much much nicer to be able to keep them with the series, but it just won't work for me. We really need some way to allow for Disk-based and/or user-customized specials in the future. As an example... my niece just loves the songs from Glee, so I extracted just those from each season. No way could MB3 deal with those...
ebr 16178 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 If you have items in a "Specials" folder and don't set the AirsBefore/AirsAfter information, then they shouldn't be showing up in-line in any seasons. Are you saying that they are showing up there even when this is the case?
pagali 62 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) It's not easy, but very easy! Was that intended as an answer to my Specials problem? Because it really isn't related at all... We weren't talking about missing or unaired episodes.... we were talking about special features. Edited February 18, 2014 by pagali
WWWestern 94 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Ha, I forgot that the global setting is removed
Koleckai Silvestri 1154 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Another factor to consider... this only works if all your specials were broadcast on TV, and are listed in TVDB, and you have them identified the same as shown there. For me, it only works with Battlestar Gallactica, because my other series have specials extracted from my DVD or Bluray boxsets. Most of those aren't listed in TVDB, but MB3 insists on trying to assign them a specials number.... even though I have the series marked to not collect metadata! I drove myself crazy going back in and removing the arbitrary episode numbers that MB3 kept insisting on assigning and displaying... finally just recently gave up and moved my TV specials into their own collection, designated as Home Videos and marked for NO METADATA. All except for BSG.... this includes Big Bang Theory, Deadwood, Dexter, Game of Thrones, Justified, West Wing, X-files... to name a few. It would be much much nicer to be able to keep them with the series, but it just won't work for me. We really need some way to allow for Disk-based and/or user-customized specials in the future. As an example... my niece just loves the songs from Glee, so I extracted just those from each season. No way could MB3 deal with those... You can edit the metadata of the "specials" to indicate where they are shown or turn off the showing of specials within seasons using the switch above. It is a season by season switch.
pagali 62 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) ^No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that my disk-sourced extras didn't work properly even before this enhancement, whether in a Specials folder, or in the season folders. MB3 insists on trying to match them up with broadcasted specials listed in TVDB, and an entire collection of special features wind up with the same arbitrary episode number... for example. The X-Files has 9 seasons, with about 60 extras in all. I have them named like "Season 1 - Bloopers" etc etc. MB3 gives every one of those extras the episode number 93, so that same file would be listed in the metadata editor and in the clients as "93 - Season 1 - Bloopers" I reported the problem before, and I was told it was working as intended. I've read over and over that MB3 doesn't mess with metadata, like a sort name that's already in place. But yet there it is.... it gets changed back over and over, with the sort name being changed as you see below. No matter what I do to disable metadata being pulled, those messed up phony episode titles come back. I have metadata turned off globally, at the Collection level, Series level, Season 0 folder level... I even added [DontFetchMeta] in the folder name... but nothing stops it. Edited February 18, 2014 by pagali
Luke 42078 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 give it another shot after the next server version is released.
pagali 62 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I guess I didn't make my point clearly. The 'specials' I'm talking about are those extracted from the purchased DVD or Bluray boxsets of the TV series. there ARE no 'show before' or 'show after' designations because most of them were never broadcast on TV and are not listed in TVDB. What I was trying to point out is that the option of showing broadcast TV specials within the correct season is very nice, but will only work in a very limited scenario... like for BSG. It does no good at all for disk-sourced specials that weren't ever shown on TV. Which 99% of mine are, and I don't imagine I'm that unique. The only solution I can see would be for the MB3 developers to allow the use of customized "Extras" folders that could be accessed from within the show listing. Ideally, MB3 would not try to assign arbitrary episode numbers to these custom folders... let the user arrange them however he/she desires and then leave them alone! (As much as I hate to look back instead of forward... this is the way MB2 worked, and it worked fine!)
pgriffith 88 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Edit the series you don't want specials to appear in seasons, when in the metadata editor scroll down and look for Display Settings. Uncheck "Display specials within season they aired in." and save. I may be wrong but I don't think there is a universal way of doing this in the server settings so you may have to do these changes for every series. YAY !! Looked everywhere but didn't see this option hidden away. Now for the server dev...Luke, can you add a global option for this somewhere, I have a lot of series which I'm not looking forward to doing one by one. ...pretty please Cheers
pagali 62 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 give it another shot after the next server version is released. I tested by moving 3 features back into a Justified/Season 0 folder. MB3 quickly assigned arbitrary episode numbers to them. But, unlike previous behavior, after I went in and deleted the episode numbers and edited the sort names, it HAS left them alone since then. 3 Days Now. So, this I can live with. Even though it shouldn't have assigned phony episode numbers, at least when I remove them they're staying removed! Thank you!
pagali 62 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 ^OK, understood. But I'm not sure I get why the program can't try to match with TVDB, if no match is found then just leave the episode number blank? And the Sort Name? Just use the filename?
pagali 62 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Oops. Just when we thought the problems were fixed... Now I discover that even though series like BSG were displaying specials correctly within seasons with the first new server beta (Feb 23)... it's no longer doing so. (updated this morning to 5150) I verified that 'Display Specials within Seasons they aired in' is still checked, and each special is still marked properly in the 'Special Episode Info' section.
Luke 42078 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Yes, it should have assigned phony numbers, and it's up to you to correct them. The library wiki is very clear about what episode naming conventions are supported. If you add files that to do not follow the convention then you are going to have side effects such as this and the only resolution is to correct and lock them. I understand why you did it so I'm not saying you shouldn't be putting those files there. I am only saying it is working as expected.
pagali 62 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 This thread says Answered, but it really isn't. 'Display Specials within Seasons they aired in' still isn't working with the new server beta, v. 5171.
Koleckai Silvestri 1154 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I am using Version 3.0.5171.26597 and the setting is working for me... Could be a configuration issue. I do like that it is a per-series option. Edited February 28, 2014 by Wayne Luke
pagali 62 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Well, that's very strange. Earlier, BSG was the only show that this feature did work with... and now it doesn't, although all the settings seem correct...
daedalus 434 Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 same here, specials are not getting sorted into the seasons neither in MBC nor the web interface i know for sure this worked some time ago and today i noticed it doesnt any more
daedalus 434 Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 i was on the latest beta before just updated to the latest dev 3.0.5211.13380 to check if this will fix it but no still not working
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