PBzeer 6 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I'm wondering why, when you uncheck internet providers in the dashboard, you still have to do it in the metadata editor (after it's already screwed up your sort titles)?
PBzeer 6 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Posted February 10, 2014 Well, it certainly happened to me. Here's the steps I took ... Download and install server. Configured everything except the media folders, before adding media.(Especially being sure to disable internet providers, which I knew from MB2) After letting the server scan all my media, I then downloaded and installed MBC. Configured MBC, then opened. Despite <SortTitle> in my XML file for each movie (which worked fine in MB2), the movies did not display in the order of my sort tags. Went to the metadata editor in the library and manually assigned sort titles. (At this point, I have to admit I didn't scroll down far enough to see the metadata option at the bottom.) Movies still out of order, so back to the editor, and see my new titles gone. Looked deeper, which was when I saw metadata option at the bottom of the page. Disabled internet providers in Movies and now a lock icon apppears and my titles stay as I changed and saved them. This is my metadata page before I added any media:
PBzeer 6 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I guess what I'm wqndering is .... if it's an override, why didn't it override? I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to understand why I had to redo everything. As well as why it ignored my XML in the first place. Since if it does, I won't bother with it, and just make any changes in the metadata editor instead. What I do for my metadata is make a folder for the movie before I rip it. Then use Media Center Master to fetch the metadata. Then, if it's say A Good Day to Die Hard, I then open the XML in Notepad and change or add a sorttitle of die hard 5. That worked fine in MB2. As I said, this isn't by way of a complaint, just a question. For someone like me, who lives on a boat, where space is at a premium, it's great to be able to keep and watch my movies without the disc. So don't think your efforts aren't appreciated. Edited February 10, 2014 by PBzeer
ebr 16169 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 This doesn't directly address your question, but that seems like a difficult and manual process. Is there something about MCM that makes you really want or need to use it for the metadata fetching? Our internal fetchers are pretty good and they retrieve all the information that the system relies upon. We try really hard to stay compatible with the other metadata products out there but, if there isn't some good reason for you to continue to use one, I would suggest giving our providers a try.
PBzeer 6 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 Mostly, it's a question of control. I found that sometimes my diy xml for my homemade movies was getting overwritten, so once I have things set, it doesn't get rescanned or "refreshed" by anything. Plus, it gives me something to do while the dvd is getting processed on my other laptop.
Luke 42077 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 well you're in luck because we're moving in that direction
Luke 42077 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 The option on the page is an override of the default setting. So changing the global setting will produce the same result.
PBzeer 6 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 On with the further adventures .... Decided to do a test, so I made a media folder for my VIDEO_TS rips and added that to the library. Same metadata as in my MKV rips, but with no internet providers now locked in, thought I'd see what happens. Again, it overrode my XML, just as it did before. This would seem to indicate the metadata is saved somewhere on the server. So, went looking for where the metadata was ... and couldn't find it in the server program files. (And no, it's not in my movie folders either). My question now is ... where do I find it and can I replace it with mine? (All I'm concerned with is the XML, not backdrops or folders)
Koleckai Silvestri 1154 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Are you storing Metadata with your media? If so make sure there isn't a hidden metadata folder within your media folder. Some tools like Media Center Master mark this folder as hidden. If not, then I believe it is stored in %appdata%/MediaBrowser-Server/data by the ID assigned by MediaBrowser. The Data field is a 32 byte string. You can see it in the browser's address bar if you pull up the item in the Web Client.
Luke 42077 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 i wouldn't worry about the library explorer and just go by what you see in the web client. individual item settings override the global server settings in the metadata section.
PBzeer 6 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Posted February 14, 2014 You went into every movie and turned off metadata collection? Or just in the options for the server. I would suspect the server setting would override the setting in individual movie folders. No, if you turn it off for the main folder, Movies, Music, whatever, it turns it off for all the folders within. It's turned off for the library, which turns it off for all the folders in the library (I checked the individual titles as I set the new sort titles). Evidently, the server doesn't see them, or I would think the key would have been true, not false (least as how I understand it works). Anyways, I just keep posting my experiences in case they do some good.
PBzeer 6 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Posted February 14, 2014 Went exploring in the Library Explorer, where upon, I find this ... "DontFetchMeta": false, ... I'm no expert, but doesn't that mean it WILL fetch? Despite having turned off every fetch button everywhere I can find one?
Koleckai Silvestri 1154 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 You went into every movie and turned off metadata collection? Or just in the options for the server. I would suspect the server setting would override the setting in individual movie folders.
PBzeer 6 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 Went back in the Library Explorer and saw that while the parent folders for each collection (Movies, Music, etc.) were set to true for Don'tFetchMeta, the root folder and all the children within each collection were set to false. Seems to me, if your global value is don't fetch, then they should all have a value of true. I can imagine root has to be set to false, to allow new folders to the Library, but shouldn't the items within each collection, if the collection is set to Don't Fetch, be true, rather than false? Don't mean to seem anal about this, just trying to understand it, and learn how it works.
Luke 42077 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Went back in the Library Explorer and saw that while the parent folders for each collection (Movies, Music, etc.) were set to true for Don'tFetchMeta, the root folder and all the children within each collection were set to false. Seems to me, if your global value is don't fetch, then they should all have a value of true. I can imagine root has to be set to false, to allow new folders to the Library, but shouldn't the items within each collection, if the collection is set to Don't Fetch, be true, rather than false? Don't mean to seem anal about this, just trying to understand it, and learn how it works. Is there actually a problem or are you just digging through json values?
PBzeer 6 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 I wouldn't call it a problem, since it's easy to deal with (other than when adding a new large folder). For some reason, it ignores the <SortTitle> in my metadata. It's not overwriting my XML, nor adding missing metadata, nor adding a new XML file. I know it's reading my metadata, because I had a couple of titles that had some blank fields, and once I edited it in my XML, not the Editor, it showed up. So it would seem that something on the server is forcing sort by the movie title, rather than the sort title. It's not a problem, it's an annoyance ... especially when you have to go in and manually change 50-60 sort titles in the Editor. Once it's done, then it's easy enough to edit one or two new editions to the folder. But if for some reason, you have to re-enter the movie folder, then it's back to the beginning. I certainly don't have the knowledge level to figure it out, but through my questions, I'm getting a better understanding of what is not the cause. Which is all I'm really trying to do.
yardameus 221 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I noticed the same thing happening to my sort titles in MetaBrowser, but it really has only been an issue when I am viewing the info in metabrowser. Doesn't seem to have an effect on the sorting in MediaBrowser. As the metadata management becomes more robust in MBS, the more I find myself tempted to completely switch over.
PBzeer 6 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 Mine followed the sort titles in the Library Browser, the Editor and MBC.
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