Saving Artwork into Folders

[Spyderturbo007 19]

I found this setting in my Library and was wondering if it is retroactive?  Meaning if I turn it on, will it copy everything from the cache drive of the server into the individual folders?  If so, how will this effect my Kodi installations?  I wouldn't think that it would, but wanted to be sure.

 

"Save artwork and metadata into media folders"

 

I'd feel more comfortable if the images were with the movies, only because they are sitting on my cache drive with no redundancy right now and don't appear to get backed up with the Emby backup task.  The array is parity protected, so the hours of time I've spend making everything look pretty would be lost if the cache drive died.

[Luke 42080]

No, only new metadata going forward. To apply to existing content will require manual refreshing

[Spyderturbo007 19]

I tested it with a few of the TV shows, but I'm not sure how to get it to copy over the existing images?  It doesn't matter which setting I choose, it sometimes pulls different images than the ones that I have set.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Spyderturbo007

[Luke 42080]

You can refresh from a top level folder using the metadata manager.

[Spyderturbo007 19]

Thanks Luke.  I just found that in another thread.  Is there a way to get it to use the existing artwork? 

 

Also, it doesn't appear to be finding everything.  Log attached.

 

For example, I refreshed American Horror Story.  Here is the initial screenshot prior to using the Refresh:

 

 

Here is what was in the directory after the refresh.  Notice that it's missing the images for Season 01, 02 & 03.

 

 

If I manually open Season 03 and hit Refresh, it will load the image.

 

 

Log.txt

Edited January 29, 2017 by Spyderturbo007

[Luke 42080]

That screenshot looks good to me, what is the issue exactly? Why not just leave it alone?

[Spyderturbo007 19]

The screenshot was before the refresh, not after. 

 

The exact issue is that posters for Season01, Season 02 & Season 03, were not downloaded during the refresh operation.

 

I don't want to let it alone because it isn't copying the images correctly.  I'd like all of the images on the parity protected array in case my cache drive dies.

[Happy2Play 9782]

And what images are in the Season folder?

[arztonyou 17]

I found this setting in my Library and was wondering if it is retroactive?  Meaning if I turn it on, will it copy everything from the cache drive of the server into the individual folders?  If so, how will this effect my Kodi installations?  I wouldn't think that it would, but wanted to be sure.

 

"Save artwork and metadata into media folders"

 

I'd feel more comfortable if the images were with the movies, only because they are sitting on my cache drive with no redundancy right now and don't appear to get backed up with the Emby backup task.  The array is parity protected, so the hours of time I've spend making everything look pretty would be lost if the cache drive died.

 

What are you using for the parity protection?  I'd been thinking about moving my metadata from the media folders to a custom location because I recently had some issues restoring a drive using Snapraid.  I had a drive failure within my first few weeks of getting Snapraid up and running.  When I went to restore the drive, a few of the files couldn't be restored.  From the log it looked like Emby had updated a few .nfo files since the last sync after videos were watched, but because files changed on the drives that didn't fail, it caused issues restoring the drive that did fail.

 

I don't know a ton about Snapraid, so I've been meaning to ask on here to see what others do if they run Emby server and Snapraid or something similar.  In my case, I didn't lose anything that I couldn't just reload and it still saved me hours of reloading a bunch of stuff I own.

[PenkethBoy 2068]

I found this setting in my Library and was wondering if it is retroactive?  Meaning if I turn it on, will it copy everything from the cache drive of the server into the individual folders?  If so, how will this effect my Kodi installations?  I wouldn't think that it would, but wanted to be sure.

 

"Save artwork and metadata into media folders"

 

I'd feel more comfortable if the images were with the movies, only because they are sitting on my cache drive with no redundancy right now and don't appear to get backed up with the Emby backup task.  The array is parity protected, so the hours of time I've spend making everything look pretty would be lost if the cache drive died.

Why not just Backup you cache drive/images?

[Spyderturbo007 19]

And what images are in the Season folder?

 

Only the .mkv file, the .nfo file and a thumbnail image for each of the episodes.

 

 

What are you using for the parity protection?  I'd been thinking about moving my metadata from the media folders to a custom location because I recently had some issues restoring a drive using Snapraid.  I had a drive failure within my first few weeks of getting Snapraid up and running.  When I went to restore the drive, a few of the files couldn't be restored.  From the log it looked like Emby had updated a few .nfo files since the last sync after videos were watched, but because files changed on the drives that didn't fail, it caused issues restoring the drive that did fail.

 

I don't know a ton about Snapraid, so I've been meaning to ask on here to see what others do if they run Emby server and Snapraid or something similar.  In my case, I didn't lose anything that I couldn't just reload and it still saved me hours of reloading a bunch of stuff I own.

 

I'm not familiar with Snapraid, but I use a program called unRAID.  I currently have 22TB of storage and a 6TB parity drive.  After my last upgrade, I noticed that they added support for dual parity drives.  I have another 6TB on order in case something bad happens.  I'd really like to build another server and move it offsite, but buying 28TB of drive space isn't the cheapest thing in the world. 

 

Why not just Backup you cache drive/images?

 

It's easier to let the parity drive handle things.  I'm also not sure if I'll be using any add-ons in the future that will want to access the images directly, as opposed to going through Emby.

[Happy2Play 9782]

Only thing I can think of is the images in /metadata/library/xx/xxxxx"itemid"xxxxx are still taking priority.

[PenkethBoy 2068]

@@Spyderturbo007

 

"It's easier to let the parity drive handle things" - eek! 

[Spyderturbo007 19]

@@Spyderturbo007

 

"It's easier to let the parity drive handle things" - eek!

I'm not quite sure I see the issue? I am quite aware that parity or any type of RAID is not a backup, but I'm not dealing with my family photos or other data that isn't easily able to be recreated.

 

In this case, I'd prefer to have my Emby images on a rotational drive that's spun down most of the time. With unRAID, each bit of data is dropped on the cache drive on its way to being written to the 22TB array.

 

The chance that my SSD will fail, is significantly higher than losing 2 drives in the array simultaneously. Especially since the cache drive is being pushed so hard.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Spyderturbo007

[Spyderturbo007 19]

Only thing I can think of is the images in /metadata/library/xx/xxxxx"itemid"xxxxx are still taking priority.

Is there a way to confirm that's the case?

[Happy2Play 9782]

Is there a way to confirm that's the case?

 

You would need to navigate to that season and look at the url to get the item id and search for the id in the metadata/library folder.  See what images are in that folder.

 

Example

[PenkethBoy 2068]

I'm not quite sure I see the issue? I am quite aware that parity or any type of RAID is not a backup, but I'm not dealing with my family photos or other data that isn't easily able to be recreated.

 

In this case, I'd prefer to have my Emby images on a rotational drive that's spun down most of the time. With unRAID, each bit of data is dropped on the cache drive on its way to being written to the 22TB array.

 

The chance that my SSD will fail, is significantly higher than losing 2 drives in the array simultaneously. Especially since the cache drive is being pushed so hard.

So move you metadata to the HDD rather than leaving it on the cache drive?

 

The data can be recreated as you say so not sure why its an issue - other than any manual edits you have done which would be covered by a simple backup 

 

Many arrays fail when being rebuilt as a second drive fails - and yes lots of people say "i can recreate the data" - usually change their mind when they have to do it 

 

Its your data so up to you

[Spyderturbo007 19]

So move you metadata to the HDD rather than leaving it on the cache drive?

 

The data can be recreated as you say so not sure why its an issue - other than any manual edits you have done which would be covered by a simple backup 

 

Many arrays fail when being rebuilt as a second drive fails - and yes lots of people say "i can recreate the data" - usually change their mind when they have to do it 

 

Its your data so up to you

 

If there were to be a second drive failure during the array rebuild, it wouldn't be an issue as unRAID allows for a second parity drive.  The one time I had a drive in the pre-fail stage, I took the array offline during the parity rebuild stage.  When a HDD dies, you can normally retrieve data from the drive.  However, when a SSD dies, you might as well just throw it in the trash.

 

I also don't want to deal with needing an always on computer to do the backups.  The automated Emby backup only backs up the library file and not the metadata.

 

The main reason I want it out of the Emby metadata folder is so that it's easily accessible to other programs that utilize the library.  I can't seem to find any documentation on how the metadata storage is handled by Emby or able to be accessed by other programs.   I've asked on the forums and didn't get much of an answer. 

 

My idea was to move the data into their respective folders so it behaves like a normal folder structure.  Then I don't have to worry about how to handle a secondary program that wants access to cover art or a trailer.

Edited February 2, 2017 by Spyderturbo007

[Spyderturbo007 19]

You would need to navigate to that season and look at the url to get the item id and search for the id in the metadata/library folder.  See what images are in that folder.

 

Example

 

The only thing in the Emby metadata folder is the Season Cover Art, which isn't in the folder with the shows / NFOs.