3.1.5.0 will not remember automatic update setting

[Diedrich 377]

Up to now this has been a minor annoyance: After an update, the "Automatic Update" checkbox would be checked even though I had it unchecked in the previous version. I don't like to update to the latest and greatest version - I like to give it a week or two to let it prove its worth, then I update, on my own.

 

I was happily sitting on 3.1.2 with automatic updates OFF and the next thing I know, I'm on 3.1.4! WTF? So I did some testing. I turned off automatic updates. Go to the Schedules Tasks and manually check for application updates. SURE ENOUGH; the Automatic Updates checkbox was changed to ON even though I had it off 5 seconds ago! I tried this several more times just to make sure I was seeing this bug correctly. I was then forced to 3.1.5.0 because of the automatic update! Argh! The issue still persists in 3.1.5.0.

 

1. Please fix it so that if the automatic updates checkbox is unchecked that it stays that way through a scheduled task check.

 

2. Please fix it so that after an update that the automatic updates checkbox remains unchecked if previously set that way. _I_ will decide when/if I want/need to update.

Edited January 28, 2017 by dvgmar

[Happy2Play 9780]

I have seen this happen also.  One sure fix you can do is delete the update triggers to check for updates.

[gjviii 48]

i have noticed this for the last few beta releases as well

[Happy2Play 9780]

Updated for .286 to .287 and "Enable automatic server updates" was re-enabled.

[diaz1510 154]

This is frustrating because it just happened to me too.  I am currently gone for a few months (in the military). I intentionally leave auto-updates off, because we all know Emby is famous for having some serious issues from time to time when updating server versions.  I didn't want to disrupt my household (wife and kids) while I'm away and having to deal with a possible major server issue that makes it so they are unable to watch.  Well, the most recent update crashed Emby.  I get a call from the wife and I have to remote into my home server, I restart it and so far so good...it doesn't SEEM to have any issues from me at least currently.

 

But my main problem is...I DON"T WANT FREAKIN AUTO-UPDATES!!!!  I specifically turned that feature off and saved it before I left.  So WHY did it update???

 

Man, this is getting frustrating...I'm getting kind of tired of having to babysit this program so much.  I don't really have time to troubleshoot anything major right now and that could put my family out of the ability to watch media while I'm away.

 

Is it possible to please make auto-updates an option and just notify us on the dashboard that there is an update available so we can do it manually? I too like to wait until a server version has proven itself before I update it.  And I DEFINITELY don't like to do updates while I'm away, I like to stick to a stable version until I get back and have time to address issues that develop.

[ryandavidg 30]

Mine also auto-updated from 3.12 to 3.14 even though I had auto updates off. Frustrating as I like to choose when to update - and in this case would have gone straight to 3.15.

[diaz1510 154]

well 3.1.5 is crashing on me continuously and not sure why.  I don't have time to really address it as I'm out of town and will have to deal with it when I get back.  I've just rolled back to 3.1.2, made sure the auto-update is OFF AGAIN, and this time I deleted the triggers in the Scheduled Tasks.  Hopefully that will get me by until I return and minimize the disruption to the family.

[blade005 185]

Removing the CHECK FOR APPLICATION UPDATES from the Scheduled Tasks seems like a reasonable alternative to 'counting' on the ENABLE AUTOMATIC SERVER UPDATES to remain unchecked and respected over time.

 

If you really want to control your updates, this will allow you to go into SCHEDULED TASKS and only have it check for new updates when you manually request (click) on it.

[Diedrich 377]

well 3.1.5 is crashing on me continuously and not sure why. I don't have time to really address it as I'm out of town and will have to deal with it when I get back. I've just rolled back to 3.1.2, made sure the auto-update is OFF AGAIN, and this time I deleted the triggers in the Scheduled Tasks. Hopefully that will get me by until I return and minimize the disruption to the family.

Are there any issues you've noticed with the rollback? I thought I saw some sort of database upgrade notification during one of the automatic updates.

[Diedrich 377]

I have seen this happen also. One sure fix you can do is delete the update triggers to check for updates.

I wouldn't call it a fix because now I have no way of knowing if there is a new version to consider. I guess I could read through the "latest news" feed for notifications... Bottom line, it's a bug that needs to be fixed.

[Happy2Play 9780]

I wouldn't call it a fix because now I have no way of knowing if there is a new version to consider. I guess I could read through the "latest news" feed for notifications... Bottom line, it's a bug that needs to be fixed.

Sure, but anyone that comes to the forum can see announcement and blog that show all updates.  Or change the trigger from daily and startup to weekly or monthly.  As stable releases are usually at least a month apart.

[diaz1510 154]

Are there any issues you've noticed with the rollback? I thought I saw some sort of database upgrade notification during one of the automatic updates.

So far nothing...its running fine as far as I can tell.  But I'm not home so hard for me to be accurate on it.  I have been watching my media via emby theater remotely and all is well so far since I rolled back onto 3.1.2

[diaz1510 154]

Sure, but anyone that comes to the forum can see announcement and blog that show all updates.  Or change the trigger from daily and startup to weekly or monthly.  As stable releases are usually at least a month apart.

I get what everybody is saying, but I personally think a solution to this would be to have Emby Server DEFAULT to manual update instead of the other way around as is the current setup. Currently, even if you uncheck auto-update and decide to perform a manual update, that auto-update box re-checks.  You have to go into Advanced Options each time you do a server update to manually uncheck that option. Defaulting to manual update might mitigate issues that people are having who want to wait to upgrade or have issues where the auto-upgrade occurs without being checked, or somehow doesn't save when unchecking.

[390x99xdsa 6]

Complained about this for a long time.  Was told Its a feature. Funny how developers think something is a feature that users regard as a bug. 

[Luke 42077]

Complained about this for a long time.  Was told Its a feature. Funny how developers think something is a feature that users regard as a bug. 

 

We did not say that at any point.

[Diedrich 377]

The fact that the box gets rechecked after unchecking it makes it a bug. A "feature" would be if the box gets checked after an upgrade. Any rechecking of the box after an upgrade is a bug.

[Diedrich 377]

We did not say that at any point.

Luke, will anything break if I downgrade to 3.1.2 from 3.1.5?

[Luke 42077]

There isn't any reason to do that.

[diaz1510 154]

There isn't any reason to do that.

Except for all the reasons why folks like myself have been...because I'm away frequently and sometimes for long periods...I can't afford for issues to creep up while I'm away and have it affect my family.  I'd prefer to be able to manually update when I decide  Usually when I'm home with some time to be able to address any issues that the upgrade may cause...

 

I've downgraded to 3.1.2 and unchecked auto update as well as remove all update triggers from scheduled tasks.  Been running this way since 28 Jan and no issues yet.  I'll wait until this issue is resolved before I update, thank you.

Edited February 5, 2017 by diaz1510

[Diedrich 377]

Okay, there is something seriously wrong with the update services. I not only disabled the automatic updating but also disabled all events under Check for Application Updates. I just got the notification to upgrade to 3.2.4 and the scheduled task says it was last run two days ago when I ran it manually AND the Automatic Update box is checked AGAIN! How is this happening?!!! This is not right! Please fix this!

Edited February 26, 2017 by dvgmar

[Luke 42077]

@, the only thing that will revert the setting is what was mentioned in this topic already, and that is manually clicking the update now button. you must have done that, if not now then during a previous release. there is a workaround, which is just use the website to install updates.

[Diedrich 377]

@, the only thing that will revert the setting is what was mentioned in this topic already, and that is manually clicking the update now button. you must have done that, if not now then during a previous release. there is a workaround, which is just use the website to install updates.

Unfortunately this is not the case for 3.2.4. I went ahead and went up to 3.2.4 - ensured Automatic Update was unchecked and made sure the scheduled task was disabled (no tasks at all). It still notified me that there was a system update. Fine. But technically it should not have. I have a suspicion that it's the plugin update task that is picking up the server notification. Might be something to look in to.

 

Edit: it's definitely not the plugin task because that last ran two weeks ago.

Edited February 28, 2017 by dvgmar

[Luke 42077]

It still notified me that there was a system update. Fine. But technically it should not have

This is not true. If you disable automatic updates it will still check and tell you there is an update available.