Metadata Services>Seasons

[PenkethBoy 2068]

Quick question

 

Are Seasons under Metadata Services redundant as we have Series?

 

As Seasons only looks at TheMovieDb?

[Luke 42085]

Redundant in what way?

[Koleckai Silvestri 1154]

Series are what the British call a Season. The US calls them seasons. A television season in the US traditionally runs between September and May with 23 episodes. That is being blurred with today's cable channels and binge-watching habits. However, in this instance they are different. In the US a Series is the show, such as "Doctor Who" or "Law and Order". Whereas a Season would be those episodes that aired in the 2009-2010 time period.

 

Language Barriers...

Edited January 20, 2017 by Koleckai Silvestri

[PenkethBoy 2068]

well "season" does not have TheTVDB only TheMovieDB

 

but "series" looks at both TheTVDB and the TheMovieDB

 

as they are the same thing depending what side of the Atlantic you live should they not have the same metadata lookup?

 

 

My question was more - why have both? - only need one option with name change based on language settings?

 

Additional question - how does Emby decide which setting to use as they are currently different

 

I raise this as i am adding "Star trek The Next Generation" and was getting weird Season 0/Special titles being picked up that were not in TheTVDB but were in TheMovieDB which is the first time i had seen this and was looking for a "cause" till i found the data on the TheMovieDb site 

[Happy2Play 9784]

Because TMDB is the only provider that provides metadata for season level, TVDB has no information.

 

 

TMDB has a overview, TVDB does not

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/1412-arrow/season/1

http://thetvdb.com/?tab=season&seriesid=257655&seasonid=492243&lid=7

 

As for Series/Show level everyone wants options.  Just like the TVMaze plugin that allows you to add them as a provider also.  No site has all the information and each provider only has what the community adds. 

[PenkethBoy 2068]

Exactly why having seasons and series is redundant as you need both to get the full info hence why i asked the question.

[Koleckai Silvestri 1154]

They aren't redundant. The X-Files is a television Series which has 10 different Seasons.

 

Maybe Series should be labeled as Show or Television Show so the difference is more apparent.

Edited January 21, 2017 by Koleckai Silvestri

[PenkethBoy 2068]

We have two services in metadata 

 

one does potentially two look ups - more likley  to find all the data available

 

ond does only one - less likley to find all the data available

 

Both are for TV shows 

 

Why have two services when one does it all - the other is redundant - depending how its implemented which i have asked but no reply on that as yet

 

Nothing to do with what you call them

[Happy2Play 9784]

Exactly why having seasons and series is redundant as you need both to get the full info hence why i asked the question.

With that logic I should never use TVDB since they do not provide Season metadata, correct?

 

Series and Season are separate information.

 

Series

 

Season

[PenkethBoy 2068]

No as TVDB has more TV series in total  - accepting the session description

 

I am not saying the services are wrong and we should not use them - its just odd to have two services 

[Happy2Play 9784]

Back to user preference,  Just like people like IMDB ratings over TMDB so they use the OMDB api.  In this case one site offers more information than the other.