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TomTiddler
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Forgive me if this is already common knowledge somewhere, but ............. is a "Collection" the ony way to deal with a Box Set? It seems to me that there's a subtle difference between a collection and a genuine Box Set. For me, I'd love to have an "icon" for each Boxed Set appearing in the normal movie list, e.g a single cover icon saying Lord Of The Rings, and when clicked on, i see icons for each movie in the set. I can't quite see how to achieve this with a Collection.

 

Any advice please?

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Good day,

 

Some way as:

 

1 - Install the plugin "Auto Box Sets" and run it.

 

2 - Or simply:

 

- Hold mouse left click on a title for like 2 seconds or so, then option to select items to add to a collection that already you created before or for new create box set, name it and then you are done.

- Click on the 3 dots and select add to collection, either here you create new name or add to created one already.

 

It all simple matters.

 

My best

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TomTiddler
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My worst fears realized - I now have many collection items, each of which contains instances of a) Complete BluRay, B) BluRay main feature only, and c) .mkv rip of BluRay, which when combined with some movies that have 2 discs per movie, leads to a massive set of choices for users who are, in thye main, ignorant of, or oblivious to the correct choice for the equipment they are viewing on. Seems to me this is a fundamental flaw in the "Library" model. Some parts of the abstraction access all parts of a "Library", and there can only be one Library.

 

In my case, I actually own physical copies of all the DVDs and BluRays in my library. The use of Emby is a "convenience" for my fmil so that they don't have to have any knowledge of the physical media involved, nor about the device they are using to view the content. (For example, WDTV boxes can play BluRays directly from a Windows share, Roku boxes cannot, but can manage well with an .mkv rip). I got over the "which version of the media" problem by only letting certain devices look at certain parts of the library.

 

Now suddenly, collections via "Auto Box Sets" breaks this model completely. Sigh.

 

Guess I'll have to experiment with other ways :)

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That wouldn't have happened if you had use the system-supported methods for grouping multiple versions of the same content together.

TomTiddler
Posted

Bazinga indeed, Luke! Amazing what you miss if you don't use the RTFM approach. I'll check it out.

 

Ian

TomTiddler
Posted

OK Luke,

                 I created an experimental library consisting of multiple versions of a single movie as below ....

 

   \\Movies\2 Guns\

          

           \2 Guns - Complete Bluray\

                      \BDMV

                           \STREAM

                                 \xxxxxxxx.m2ts

          \2 Guns - Bluray Main Feature

                      \BDMV

                           \STREAM

                                 \mainfeature.m2ts

           \2 Guns - MKV for Roku

                      \2 Guns - Main feature.mkv

 

Did a library scan; fired up Emby theatre from another PC; lo and behold, it shows me three "icons", each of which is identical, so my family is still left trying to decide which one to pick! (The odds, of course, of picking the correct one are 1 in 3, so not great!) For the life of me I can't see how this solves any kind of problem, what am I missing? Probably should add, that I can "solve" my problem by using the 2 instances of a server, and control which server a particular kind of media box accesses.

 

Thanx for chiming in, but I'm still failing to see the value of the "multiple versions" solution.

 

Ian

Deathsquirrel
Posted (edited)

OK Luke,

                 I created an experimental library consisting of multiple versions of a single movie as below ....

 

   \\Movies\2 Guns\

          

           \2 Guns - Complete Bluray\

                      \BDMV

                           \STREAM

                                 \xxxxxxxx.m2ts

          \2 Guns - Bluray Main Feature

                      \BDMV

                           \STREAM

                                 \mainfeature.m2ts

           \2 Guns - MKV for Roku

                      \2 Guns - Main feature.mkv

 

Did a library scan; fired up Emby theatre from another PC; lo and behold, it shows me three "icons", each of which is identical, so my family is still left trying to decide which one to pick! (The odds, of course, of picking the correct one are 1 in 3, so not great!) For the life of me I can't see how this solves any kind of problem, what am I missing? Probably should add, that I can "solve" my problem by using the 2 instances of a server, and control which server a particular kind of media box accesses.

 

Thanx for chiming in, but I'm still failing to see the value of the "multiple versions" solution.

 

Ian

 

I'm not sure there even IS a native solution for that kind of situation.  The normal organization would be to drop the blu-ray rip folders entirely and have one folder for the movie and any desired extras, likely in MKV format since it appears you want the original Audio and video source untouched.  If you had additional copies of the same film at different resolutions those would go in the same folder following the naming wiki rules.  With your current setup you should see what you do see, three identical movies.  To each their own but your current setup makes absolutely no sense in my experience.

Edited by Deathsquirrel
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As far as multi-version folder rips go, there is no native solution based on folder structure, so they would need to just be two separate movies. But then you can group them manually in the web interface using the multi-select tool.

Deathsquirrel
Posted

As far as multi-version folder rips go, there is no native solution based on folder structure, so they would need to just be two separate movies. But then you can group them manually in the web interface using the multi-select tool.

 

When I try that option it says clients will automatically pick the appropriate version.  I assume there is no UI for selecting the version you want to play?  If that's the case I don't think it helps here.  He'd need collections of collections or something equivalent that lets you click the title and then choose 'full disc/movie only/roku version'...ignoring how very little sense these options make to me.

Posted

Yes that's correct.

Posted

Give each of them different names and put them in a collection.

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