Lost me at Premium

[Deathsquirrel 745]

I believe that for those who are truly testing the new Theater or commit to expanding it via themes and plugins, they should get free access to the app. If they are just using it, like I am, then Premium is the way to go. A purchase price similar to other apps should be available if the user doesn't want to commit to a full Premium subscription.

 

Not a solution that is 100% of what everyone wants but one that can help the project move forward.

 

I've never been a monthly subscriber but assuming there is either a validation server that has a time limit recorded against the key or the key has a time limit built in, it should at least be technically possible.  PITA to manage though unless it's kept pretty small.

[Jobber8742 9]

I've been using MediaBrowser for quite a few years now. I've bought the app for 2 different Android phones and the iPad. I bought the CoverArt Add-on and the Theme Add-ons. I'd say I paid $25-$30 to you already. I like it and will continue to use it. It looks like the Premiere subscription is $100 lifetime for Theater plus all these other things that I already paid for. I have no objection to paying money, but I certainly don't want to pay for things twice. Will there be any sort of discount for those of us who have already purchased these other items? Also, in that other thread you said that MediaBrowser Theater will remain free always, and it appears it is. Now you say Emby Theater costs $100 lifetime. What if down the road you decide updates have gone far enough and now you are going to release Emby Theater 2. Am I going to have to pay another $100?

[Luke 42077]

I've been using MediaBrowser for quite a few years now. I've bought the app for 2 different Android phones and the iPad. I bought the CoverArt Add-on and the Theme Add-ons. I'd say I paid $25-$30 to you already. I like it and will continue to use it. It looks like the Premiere subscription is $100 lifetime for Theater plus all these other things that I already paid for. I have no objection to paying money, but I certainly don't want to pay for things twice. Will there be any sort of discount for those of us who have already purchased these other items? Also, in that other thread you said that MediaBrowser Theater will remain free always, and it appears it is. Now you say Emby Theater costs $100 lifetime. What if down the road you decide updates have gone far enough and now you are going to release Emby Theater 2. Am I going to have to pay another $100?

 

If you bought Cover Art then you already have Premiere. Note that I'm referring to Cover Art in Media Browser 3/Emby.

[Schroinx 10]

Will the ET be offered as a app at the price point or how is it going to be?

[Dazik 46]

I will give a few minutes of my time to this thread once again.

 

The initial problem I had with the new ET being paid only was that it simply was not announced that way. Multiple issues where reported and people where told to wait for the new version, which was fine. However, on the day of the release we where greeted with a message saying to upgrade to the new ET with no mention of it being paid. This was quickly fixed by Luke after a few of us complained and it was clearly known that it was a "paid application".

 

With that initial problem solved this turned into a debate about the price and why you should have to pay. I was a part of the opposition. Let's face it, the majority of us are pirates in some way and when something we use that is free gets locked to paid, we don't like it.

 

With that being conveyed, I have used Emby since it was called Video Browser (I honestly cant remember the first name, think that's it). I now use it daily where back then, which was more than 5 years ago I'd think, I used it every now and then. Point is, I use Emby quite a bit, my entire family does, from my wife to my daughter, daily. So after a few days to get over the bad taste in my mouth from the release, I went ahead and donated for premiere, it's done right by me, $100 is a bit much, but hey $100 for 5+ years of use already is nothing.

 

It's worth it for an HTPC setup, hands down. It has its flaws at the moment but I expect some rather ridiculous things to come from the new Emby Theater, just looking at the files now I can see things that no other media server/player has even attempted.

 

A sweetener to this knowledge is that upon using the new ET the first time there was some issues I really couldn't stand, I'll make a list of the 3 that bugged me most:-

• Escape not bound to 'Back' function. Fixed
• Need setting to disable navigation sounds. Fixed
• Progress bar not showing on pause. Fixed

2 of these issues where reported by me and where "fixed" within HOURS of my complaining The third was a bit more of a change and took a few days, but it's now "fixed" also.

 

 

Basically, I made a fuss about the new Emby Theater being paid. Then I caved and paid for it. Now I'm all for it. The fact that the devs are actively watching the forum for minor issues and FIXING them nearly immediately is a clear indication of why my opinion has taken a full turn.

 

There is no better option for a true HTPC setup. And it's absolutely worth it. Look at it as spending $100 on software you will use for years to come. Some of us have 20TB+ of space. That's half a hard drive (if you are buying the correct ones).

 

The last thing I want to explain is my stance on the price. When I first got into the "media hobby" I wasn't making much money, $100 lifetime or even $4/mo would not have been possible for me back then. I assume there are others getting into this now in a similar situation. It shouldn't be a big concern for someone to buy software, even if it is something they use constantly. I'd highly suggest a cheaper "plan" for only playback. $20-$40 for lifetime and $1/mo. I get that the old theater is and will remain free, but in a few months time it won't even compare to the new one.

 

Now, I'm done with this discussion and everything related to it. But my final statement is this, it's worth it, even if you can't see it now, it will be in the near future.

 

Let's all get back to watching our media in peace.

Edited January 28, 2016 by akensai

[Deathsquirrel 745]

2 of these issues where reported by me and where "fixed" within HOURS of my complaining The third was a bit more of a change and took a few days, but it's now "fixed" also.

 

The level of response from this dev team really is fantastic.  I've had multiple issues over the years and always gotten the problems resolved quickly.  They can't fix everything but the fix a LOT.

[Jobber8742 9]

If you bought Cover Art then you already have Premiere. Note that I'm referring to Cover Art in Media Browser 3/Emby.

Wow, Really? That's cool then. How long is the Premiere good for then?

 

Your download link for Emby Theater appears to be broken right now. I get the message 

Error 503 Backend fetch failed

Backend fetch failed

Guru Meditation:

XID: 10875767

Varnish cache server

Edited January 28, 2016 by Jobber8742

[Deathsquirrel 745]

Wow, Really? That's cool then. How long is the Premiere good for then?

 

Very likely a loooong time.  http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/27502-premiere-faq-please-read-before-posting/. I'm assuming you have a lifetime key.

[MSattler 390]

Very likely a loooong time.  http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/27502-premiere-faq-please-read-before-posting/. I'm assuming you have a lifetime key.

 

I don't get all the fuss.  Personally I would even pay $50-75 a year considering the number of constant updates, and the fact that it works pretty damn well.  But alas, I'll go back to eating my popcorn, and watch how much time grown adults can waste on this thread =)

 

Cheers!

[Happy2Play 9780]

Wow, Really? That's cool then. How long is the Premiere good for then?

 

Your download link for Emby Theater appears to be broken right now. I get the message 

Error 503 Backend fetch failed

Backend fetch failed

Guru Meditation:

XID: 10875767

Varnish cache server

Currently there is an issue with GitHub.

 

[Jobber8742 9]

Very likely a loooong time.  http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/27502-premiere-faq-please-read-before-posting/. I'm assuming you have a lifetime key.

 

I'm not sure how to tell. I don't see anything that says the length anywhere and I certainly didn't pay $100.

[overClocked! 65]

If you bought Cover Art then you already have Premiere. Note that I'm referring to Cover Art in Media Browser 3/Emby.

I didn't know that. I knew that the supporter tiers for Media Browser 3 were commuted, but I didn't know about the Cover Art purchase.

 

What would be great is if there were a list posted of the legacy supporter purchases that are honored as Premiere (Lifetime) licenses.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Edited January 28, 2016 by overClocked!

[Happy2Play 9780]

I'm not sure how to tell. I don't see anything that says the length anywhere and I certainly didn't pay $100.

Does the Dashboard show you as a supporter?

 

[Jobber8742 9]

Does the Dashboard show you as a supporter?

 

Yes.

[Happy2Play 9780]

Since you have a supporter key you should have access to all the Premiere features.

[Luke 42077]

The new Emby Theater must be taking down Github

[speechles 2055]

Thats one of the benefits of being an early adopter, and supporting emby when it was still a young mediabrowser3 and helping it become the emby today. Your price is lower. Thats why people complain about $99 even though most certainly that price can and it will go up.

 

Waiting until the project matures to jump in is why so many complain the prices are higher now. They have more features to bring to keep up the pace which is constantly faster and faster. The slower their pace is, the faster their competitor can catch up. So to keep emby competitive, here we are today. The pace creates a higher cost. This cant keep a balance without monetization.

 

Emby doesnt presently make you sit thru paid advertisements to subsidize your wish for a cheaper client and ecosystem. It can. This is an annoying compromise, but it can no longer be an carte blanche free lunch off developer sweat. Those days are over, sorry. It just isnt sustainable that business model.

 

So now this is where people feel the need to vent. Its okay. Everyone cant love raymond. I know the show said otherwise. The show was cancelled though even so. Naturally, there is a certain "greed factor" immediately associated with price hikes.

 

The first thing people think of in fact with a price hike are usually, "bullshit" or "highway robbery". But that most certainly isnt happening here. The "money grab" term is used by others just because of the fact they are mad they waited so long and the price is higher now. Its a case of sour grapes, or maybe, jelly. They are jelly of others.

 

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Edited January 28, 2016 by speechles

[JeremyFr79 228]

Thats one of the benefits of being an early adopter, and supporting emby when it was still a young mediabrowser3 and helping it become the emby today. Your price is lower. Thats why people complain about $99 even though most certainly that price can and it will go up.

 

Waiting until the project matures to jump in is why so many complain the prices are higher now. They have more features to bring to keep up the pace which is constantly faster and faster. The slower their pace is, the faster their competitor can catch up. So to keep emby competitive, here we are today. The pace creates a higher cost. This cant keep a balance without monetization.

 

Emby doesnt presently make you sit thru paid advertisements to subsidize your wish for a cheaper client and ecosystem. It can. This is an annoying compromise, but it can no longer be an carte blanche free lunch off developer sweat. Those days are over, sorry. It just isnt sustainable that business model.

 

So now this is where people feel the need to vent. Its okay. Everyone cant love raymond. I know the show said otherwise. The show was cancelled though even so. Naturally, there is a certain "greed factor" immediately associated with price hikes.

 

The first thing people think of in fact with a price hike are usually, "bullshit" or "highway robbery". But that most certainly isnt happening here. The "money grab" term is used by others just because of the fact they are mad they waited so long and the price is higher now. Its a case of sour grapes, or maybe, jelly. They are jelly of others.

 

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

 

^This, when I made my original "donation" to Emby, it wasn't to get anything extra at the time, it was simply "hey this software is badass and I want it to get even more badass so I'm gonna pitch in so these guys have some incentive to do more badass things!"  And guess what it was money well spent.  And while they didn't have to they gave us early supporters lifetime premiere memberships (thanks for that you guys rock) and even still I've been wanting to kick them some extra money and will once I become employed again myself.

[albumman 7]

An observation from an emby newbie who's just started using it over the last couple of months to organize his library....  for the love of GOD please add glossary of all the different products/components in this suite.   

 

 "old" theater vs "new" theater is clearly causing confusion and in this thread I must have seen 30 different abbreviated references to various offerings of the past or subcomponents of the current solution(s?)...  PLEASE give your new/prospective customers a glossary somewhere.  Thanks!

 

 

 

Scott

[Luke 42077]

An observation from an emby newbie who's just started using it over the last couple of months to organize his library....  for the love of GOD please add glossary of all the different products/components in this suite.   

 

 "old" theater vs "new" theater is clearly causing confusion and in this thread I must have seen 30 different abbreviated references to various offerings of the past or subcomponents of the current solution(s?)...  PLEASE give your new/prospective customers a glossary somewhere.  Thanks!

 

 

 

Scott

 

Very good idea, thank you.

[skrk1 0]

Been fighting with emby, next pvr,theater for probably 2 years. was semi usable with wmc till windows 10.

been lifetime member and even kicked in another year donation with theater premeire. But with all the glitches and trying to get things to work to wifes acceptance.

I am done.

Goodbye

[Deathsquirrel 745]

Been fighting with emby, next pvr,theater for probably 2 years. was semi usable with wmc till windows 10.

been lifetime member and even kicked in another year donation with theater premeire. But with all the glitches and trying to get things to work to wifes acceptance.

I am done.

Goodbye

 

Is it just me or are there a lot of one-post long time members that have been trying to get things working for years but never asking for help that came here to say they quit lately?

 

Not saying this specific poster is a fake account but I'm pretty sure the percentage of this sort of post in the last couple of weeks that is fake isn't zero.

Edited January 30, 2016 by Deathsquirrel

[Redshirt 1487]

It's not just you. All I see in this thread is 

 

[SHSPVR 123]

Deathsquirrel, on 30 Jan 2016 - 12:17 AM, said:Deathsquirrel, on 30 Jan 2016 - 12:17 AM, said:

Is it just me or are there a lot of one-post long time members that have been trying to get things working for years but never asking for help that came here to say they quit lately?

 

Not saying this specific poster is a fake account but I'm pretty sure the percentage of this sort of post in the last couple of weeks that is fake isn't zero.

You can find 99 percentage of the problem all ready listed here with out ever sign up or ask for help 

Edited January 30, 2016 by SHSPVR

[AdrianW 1058]

You can find 99 percentage of the problem all ready listed here with out ever sign up or ask for help 

 

Well, yes you're right you can find heaps of info without signing up to the forums. But that user mentioned "fighting" for two years to get emby working and WMC only being "semi-usable". So, it's very unlikely he even read the forums at all.