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bassistgak
Posted (edited)

I'm pretty sure the OTA EIT stream is to remain it's the MHEG5 stream that's being phased out.

Cheers, well whatever is staying it should be used.

Edited by bassistgak
  • 1 month later...
Posted

I currently use WMC and the OTA guide data in it is sensational.

I'm not a huge local TV watcher or recorder but I do record things at times and Iv'e had much success with OTA. I cant remember the last time I could fault it

 

I used to use ICE for years when it was first implemented and even though the data quality was great, the reliance on a 3rd party solution was always a bug bear. Downloading, schedule changes, cost etc.

 

Personally, I'm another vote for OTA. 

I don't see it going away any time soon

 

Cable networks don't saturate the market here in OZ like a lot of other countries, because of the high cost, lack of infrastructure and low quality of content (plus the owner of Fox is a $#%#)

So FTA TV is definitely here to stay and whilst that is the case, I'm sure there will be a OTA gude to support it

 

I would love to see OTA guide access and I would be very happy to pay for it if need be

It would give WMC users finally an option post WMC v8.1

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bassistgak
Posted (edited)

Congrats to @@Luke , @@ebr and whoever else worked on this.

Emby Server 3.1.36.beta installed. Now with XML TV guide option!!!

 

Confirmed working here in Aus using:

 

1. freeepg.tv as the XML provider, - they are free all you do is register and they will  send you a URL link.

2. next map you xml channels to the channels in Emby (under guide provider click 3 dots next to Xml tv)

3. refresh guide data.

 

Ta DA! Australian network guide.

 

Thanks again team, what a wonderful thing you have done for us!!

Edited by bassistgak
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Posted

Is this for all backends such as mediaportal or only for the hdhomerun live tv plugin?

bassistgak
Posted

This is for the internal  Emby LiveTV which supports HD homerun. Not sure of the others, would require someone else using those platforms to test/comment.

bluemonkey07
Posted

I believe for all other live tv plugins it is the backend that should be supporting xml tv

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Posted

I believe for all other live tv plugins it is the backend that should be supporting xml tv

 

Yup.

Trevor68
Posted

Ok so if I understand this correctly then we are still at only supporting HD Homerun tuners then, not PCI or USB tuners?

 

Not complaining, just trying to understand as if this is the way forward I will go and buy one.

Trevor68
Posted

Congrats to @@Luke , @@ebr and whoever else worked on this.

Emby Server 3.1.36.beta installed. Now with XML TV guide option!!!

 

Confirmed working here in Aus using:

 

1. freeepg.tv as the XML provider, - they are free all you do is register and they will  send you a URL link.

2. next map you xml channels to the channels in Emby (under guide provider click 3 dots next to Xml tv)

3. refresh guide data.

 

Ta DA! Australian network guide.

 

Thanks again team, what a wonderful thing you have done for us!!

is there a link to register? the address you gave just gives me an xml parsing error

bassistgak
Posted

is there a link to register? the address you gave just gives me an xml parsing error

You need to web browse to freepg.tv

Once you are there, register

They will email you once registered

The email will have a url, place this url in emby tv

Posted

Ok so if I understand this correctly then we are still at only supporting HD Homerun tuners then, not PCI or USB tuners?

 

Not complaining, just trying to understand as if this is the way forward I will go and buy one.

 

That is correct right now.

Posted

Congrats to @@Luke , @@ebr and whoever else worked on this.

Emby Server 3.1.36.beta installed. Now with XML TV guide option!!!

 

Confirmed working here in Aus using:

 

1. freeepg.tv as the XML provider, - they are free all you do is register and they will  send you a URL link.

2. next map you xml channels to the channels in Emby (under guide provider click 3 dots next to Xml tv)

3. refresh guide data.

 

Ta DA! Australian network guide.

 

Thanks again team, what a wonderful thing you have done for us!!

 

Shout out to @chubbyarse who helped out.

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Posted

Fantastic news guys! Thanks so much! I'm off to buy a couple of HD Homeruns!

Posted

Is OTA EIT scanner still on the cards or this workflow of finding xml provider is going to be the way forward short-mid term ?

  • 1 month later...
kingy444
Posted (edited)

Congrats to @@Luke , @@ebr and whoever else worked on this.

Emby Server 3.1.36.beta installed. Now with XML TV guide option!!!

 

Confirmed working here in Aus using:

 

1. freeepg.tv as the XML provider, - they are free all you do is register and they will  send you a URL link.

2. next map you xml channels to the channels in Emby (under guide provider click 3 dots next to Xml tv)

3. refresh guide data.

 

Ta DA! Australian network guide.

 

Thanks again team, what a wonderful thing you have done for us!!

@bassistgak hoping you can help

 

I have tried the above (Stable - 3.0.6060.0), but when i go to map channels the page doesnt display any channels to map.

 

I can watch the channels etc so the tuner is working, and can see the xml content if i copy it to a browser.

 

Did you have any issues configuring?

I can see that they deliver the xml in a gz for compression reasons, can emby handle this @Luke or @ebr ?

Edited by kingy444
bassistgak
Posted

Hi @@kingy444,

 

I have moved back to using HD homerun through Kodi, as no offence to Emby TV, but i find it too slow for channel changes at this stage, but will keep watching the forums for improvements on this.

Saying that though i did reinstate Emby TV on my server to test for you, and added back the XML guide, sorry to say it all worked correctly for me.

currently using Sever version 3.1.81.0.

Posted

It certainly is very slow compared to kodi it is very impressive how kodi does it. It is unbelievable how fast channel change is on pi. Emby still has long way to go to look good as wmc so I also keep testing it that one day i can replace it with emby. But on devices that don't need transcoding, it's very fast.

Posted

The channel changing speed is not really an Emby problem so much as it is a device video player problem. If the video player we're using can't direct play the tv stream, then transcoding will take longer to start.

pünktchen
Posted

It certainly is very slow compared to kodi it is very impressive how kodi does it. It is unbelievable how fast channel change is on pi. Emby still has long way to go to look good as wmc so I also keep testing it that one day i can replace it with emby. But on devices that don't need transcoding, it's very fast.

What is very fast for you? You are using a HDHomerun with core tv right?

With an external tv plugin it's always slow, because we have to probe the stream, otherwise we don't get direct play at all [emoji25]

bassistgak
Posted

The channel changing speed is not really an Emby problem so much as it is a device video player problem. If the video player we're using can't direct play the tv stream, then transcoding will take longer to start.

Hi @@Luke,

 

Just to check if its an issue with my system.  I'm currently using Emby Theatre installed on the same Windows 10 machine as my Emby Server and there is a couple second delay when showing the guide and also switching channels I would assume I should have no issue with Direct play of the HD Homerun through Emby TV on a Win 10 machine? Maybe there is something i am missing.

 

As a comparsion using the unofficial HDHomerun PVR Addon in Kodi is lightning quick for channel changes on both the same Windows 10 machine and Kodi on my Nexus Player, in comparison it is as quick as changing channels on a normal TV tuner. It also grabs the guide data directly from the HDHomerun with no external guide provider needed and can present it in a nice guide view.

 

I am only talking a couple a seconds difference between the two but it is noticeable enough to be annoying. I'm sure you have probably seen the Kodi Add-on above, but if you haven't, take a look, its the way it should be done for HD Homerun. 

 

Again not offence to Emby TV, it could be something I am doing, I just have had no issues with the Kodi addon as a comparison.

Posted

I tested kodi and emby on the same pc that is running the emby server and it takes 2 to 3 seconds for channel change. It is direct playing all channels so no transcoding is involved and it is still that slow.

 

As bassistgak says if you try kodi with the hdhome run pvr it is instant channel change. It is even more remarkable that a simple device as pi 2 can do that but emby cannot. I am using hdhomerun connect with dvb-t.

bluemonkey07
Posted

It's not that remarkable, emby server needs to do more "stuff" before whichever client plays the stream than kodi does

Posted

I thought when it is direct playing it doesn't do anything like in Kodi. I still think that is impressive that a device like pi can do that hopefully one day emby theatre would be available on the pi so a proper comparison can be made.

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bluemonkey07
Posted (edited)

I'm just a user but I imagine emby server will still need to probe the stream every channel change and determine if the client can direct stream

Edited by Vidman
  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

I'm just a user but I imagine emby server will still need to probe the stream every channel change and determine if the client can direct stream

It would be good if it could just probe for the first play of a channel and then remember the decision for subsequent plays. That would solve everyone issues with direct play TV.

 

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