Official Emby Logo Submission Thread

[jedninjaro 39]

 

I'm just not sure if it's emby, Emby or EMBY.

 

I agree that we need to start enforcing a standard capitalization on the website and in all of the clients. The webclient seems to capitalize all of the letters while Android just uses a capital E. Which is correct so that those of us mods and devs can start using the correct capitalization when referring to the project?

 

Let me jump into that discussion, emby, Emby or EMBY?

 

If you ask me what the right capitalization is when referring to it in a sentence, it's not really a discussion it's Emby (capital E, lower case mby) it's a name, 

 

But when it comes down to what should be used in a logo (lower case or capital), It's a different story.

And the simple truth about it is, that is doesn't matter! it's what you like the most.

It's about 1. what you like the most 2.What seperates you the most from others. 3.what you think Emby stands for.

 

whilst older compagnies like Microsoft or Google have upper case.

brands like facebook or twitter have lower case.

Thinking about the psychologie behind it is useless. they just thought it looked better and distinguised them the most.

And there is no one thinking, heeee! shouldnt facebook be with a capital F. Cause when referring to it in a sentence they use Facebook (with a capital F)

 

So then when looking at KODI, PLEX Xbmc Infuce VLC, Lowercase will set you apart the most.

And there is absolutely no rule that says you can't!

Added bonus: when putting .media behind it lowercase looks a bit better then Emby.media. (but that might just be my oppinion.)

 

And just for last when referring to it in a sentence as EMBY! YOU DON'T NEED TO SHOUT, nor do you need to use higher cassings for it to stand out in a sentence,

Emby is a name recognizible enough to stand out in sentence without it.

[Starkadius 219]

 

For some reason it reminds me of this logo, specifically the letter B. Maybe it is just my eyes.

[Angelblue05 4132]

They are all the same height, lowercase ends up being bigger, like the xbmc logo (not Kodi):

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2015 by Angelblue05

[AdrianW 1058]

I was out walking today and I passed this shop.

 

The shop logo reminds me quite strongly of this submission by @@chef :

[jedninjaro 39]

I like it. It reminds me of a water wheel or a timer. Just not sure how it relates to the product. What's the concept/idea behind the design? (Sorry if you already explained it, I must have missed it.)

At first, Thank you. 

I assume you're reffering to my design?

 

Some people see a powerbutton a mouse a water wheel a timer etc. in it.

When designing it, i wasn't really bussy with a direct association with the brand. i was working on a positive feeling towards it.

 

i Think a logo is more about the emotion, and about what sets it apart. then it is about making a direct connection,

Because there is more then one way to make a connection with a brand.

After all VLC is not a compagnie that produces traffic cones, nor does google microsoft plex xmbc or kodi thell you what there product is about.

And when trying to make a direct connection through a logo, Emby is impossible.

Emby has outgrown the use for it. It has become so much more!

looking at it, using a play icon clapper tv, film wheel, photo, audio, game icon, film reel, popcorn, book camera only tells one tale.

Using them all would make it a very busy logo, and something only for startups, who need it.

 

After all, we are looking for a logo, Not an icon.

Beause Emby is not just film, not just tv, not just game or music. Emby is Emby. and that is saying a lot.

 

It's problay also the reason that xbmx didnt went that way in a logo. It would be an impossible job. Or only tell half the story.

 

So thank you, You like the logo, some might even love it, they say the logo speaks to them and that it stands out.

it gives them a positive feeling.

And that is what the logo is about.

 

it tells a bigger story then a play icon will

Emby is more, Emby is Emby.

I love Emby!

Telling you why in one icon that says it all. is impossible for me.

i tried designing that, didn't work out!

and in the end i thought! it's simply Emby!

 

And now i've rambled on long enough, lol

[jedninjaro 39]

 

For some reason it reminds me of this logo, specifically the letter B. Maybe it is just my eyes.

Thanks for the comment.

i personally don't know this brand in my country!

And as is said before. with millions of logo's out there, you will always be able to find something that reminds you of it.

Just upload to google, and search images.

As long as the logo doesn't have any association with big brands, or direct competitors or brands that come close. then it doesn't matter.

 

for every logo submitted i can find a logo that reminds me of something else.

but i won't because i don't see any use for that.

especially when it's something totally unrelated to the brand.

 

but if indeed a problem! when adjusting the font a little bit, it's easilly adjusted.

[jedninjaro 39]

I was out walking today and I passed this shop.

 

The shop logo reminds me quite strongly of this submission by @@chef :

and here again the same story as above.

different enough, and an unrelated shop brand.

[jedninjaro 39]

They are all the same height, lowercase ends up being bigger, like the xbmc logo (not Kodi):

 

 

 

And in my vision, as i said, lowercase sets it apart the most.

[Angelblue05 4132]

Plex uses a stylized play icon. Netflix uses a "movie rental" font. A logo is much more than just the product, yes, but it still stays true to it's source somehow (font, color, treatment, shape).

 

I just think we are in a difficult place. The name Emby means nothing and it's a brand new change. For future potential users, we need a clear association to the media world or else it could end up being a missed opportunity. A clear definition at first glance (without being too obvious) helps make the brand much more approachable by the mass. This is what's important, in my opinion.

 

 

Edit: Agreed, lowercase looks best. All caps becomes busy (too many lines) and Emby turns out to be the "smallest" logo because of the height.

Edited April 8, 2015 by Angelblue05

[jedninjaro 39]

Plex uses a stylized play icon. Netflix uses a "movie rental" font. A logo is much more than just the product, yes, but it still stays true to it's source somehow (font, color, treatment, shape).

 

-I most definitly see where you're comming from, but plex is only for streaming media (eg film tv music). so the play button tells the whole story, Netflix is only for rental, so it tells the whole story

emby is more then just a play icon, games don't use a play icon. Again why xbmc doesn't try to incorpirate any or KODI.

And even if a media icon does tell enough, will it still in 5 or 10 years from now, So you also need a logo that is able to grow, without having to choose or create a new one every so years.

And when trying to tell more in a logo, it easly gets over complicated and loses it's style.

 

I just think we are in a difficult place. The name Emby means nothing and it's a brand new change. For future potential users, we need a clear association to the media world or else it could end up being a missed opportunity. A clear definition at first glance (without being too obvious) helps make the brand much more approachable by the mass. This is what's important, in my opinion.

 

I think we are indeed in a difficult place, cause at first the name media browser told a clear cut story about it's functions, the name Emby doesn't indeed.

you're asking for a logo to make a clear definition, to help make it approachable, a very understandable opinion.

However you want a logo to accomplish all of that, is putting your faith in the wrong place, did people start using google because it has a fancy logo or because of what it could do. 

i also didn't start using netflix because i saw a logo and thought, hey they rent movies.

It's because i googled movie rental and it came up first.

brand recognision is something that needs to grow, you cannot create it in a logo. it's through marketing advertisement and so on that you reach that level.

recognition can also be achieved trough using the right slogan. wich can tell more, or a background, or putting some small icons underneath the logo, with a gamepad moviewheel etc, in it.

 

I'm not saying it would be impossible to create a logo with some association to media, or that it wouldn't help.

i'm just saying it would do a lot less then you're imagining it would, cause it's not where a programs strengt comes from, no compagnie grew of having a fancy logo or of it telling a story, it used its own strenght.

Facebook wouldn't have grow bigger or faster if it used anything other then that f.

 

There simply comes a time when your asking to much for a logo to do. And it simply can't

 

When you cant tell the whole story: don't try to tell it at all. or else you start up being misinturpirated.

Ow a logo with a play icon, well i mostly play games, so ill keep using plex, and search for an other program.

 

the biggest compagnies didn't miss out on anything of not having an association, they just delivered something worth while!

put your faith in emby, not it's logo, and market market market.

 

So to recap: Although very and i mean very, understandable. you would never be able to accomplish growth trough a logo.

I'm looking now at my browsers shorcut bar. and i don't see any logo with direct association in its logo, nor did i put them there because of a logo.

 

Your looking for a logo that says Emby, whilst in all onesty, no logo will do that completely

 

when you see a yellow m you think mcdonalds, it says nothing about the brand. and at first people may have thought a yellow m what is that about, thats a stupid logo!

now it's the most recognisable brand logo. and it's beacause of their product, not there logo.

also nike, just do it,,,swoosh.

 

in 5 years people will see an e and think heey Emby. not because of it's logo, but because of it's product.

 

and now ill stop rambling again

 

 

 

Edit: Agreed, lowercase looks best. All caps becomes busy (too many lines) and Emby turns out to be the "smallest" logo because of the height.

[xnappo 1611]

The is no doubt in my mind that it should be lower case!  Looks the best by far.

 

I am loving the power button, and I think others are too.. But I noticed when rebooting my Openelec box that it is pretty similar to their logo:

 

xnappo

 

P.S. It is xnappo, not Xnappo - and it is pronounced as a 'z'

[ebr 16169]

 

 

When you cant tell the whole story: don't try to tell it at all. or else you start up being misinterpreted[sic].

 

This is a huge point in my opinion and is why the name is now Emby and not some known word with pre-conceived associations.

 

That is not to say that we may not be able to find a media-related shape that works - just that we don't necessarily have to and it may be better not to.

[josephasmith1 3]

I wanted to throw my hat into the ring.  I included some screenshots of ideas I had. The stylized "E" is the logo, the text could be altered once capital/lowercase is agreed upon. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jedninjaro 39]

The is no doubt in my mind that it should be lower case!  Looks the best by far.

 

I am loving the power button, and I think others are too.. But I noticed when rebooting my Openelec box that it is pretty similar to their logo:

 

 

Thank you and good comment,

It's a simple tweak to the font of the mby,and also thies the b in a little more with the y.

After all it's mostly the e that makes the logo, the mby can go differrent ways, Also the grey background is its biggest similarity, wich is just for display, ellimenate that and youll see it's more then different enough.

well at least in my opinion it's different enough

 

[aspdend 177]

 

The is no doubt in my mind that it should be lower case!  Looks the best by far.

 

I am loving the power button, and I think others are too.. But I noticed when rebooting my Openelec box that it is pretty similar to their logo:

 

 

Thank you and good comment,

It's a simple tweak to the font of the mby,and also thies the b in a little more with the y.

After all it's mostly the e that makes the logo, the mby can go differrent ways, Also the grey background is its biggest similarity, wich is just for display, ellimenate that and youll see it's more then different enough.

well at least in my opinion it's different enough

 

 

I see what you are saying @@jedninjaro but I think it is similar enough to the openelec 'e' that it may need to be tweaked slightly. It is still one of the top 2 or 3 contenders in my eyes though!

[Nikolaech 32]

name change = marketing error.
none of the submitted logos, not be compared to the design and meaning with the old name.

 

изменение имени = маркетинговая ошибка.

ни один из представленных логотипов, не сравнится по дизайну и смысловой нагрузкой со старым названием.

[jedninjaro 39]

Probably not according to all wishes, but keeping on with power on with Emby.

 

[cshaun 31]

Probably not according to all wishes, but keeping on with power on with Emby.

 

 

Nice idea. But lose to much readability I think. Also kind of makes me think of when you turn on/off a TV how the image sort of collapses into a line and disappears (maybe just in cartoons).

[cshaun 31]

While your thicker one looks a little odd in your mock-up (probably just used to the thinner one) or maybe the rounded edges on "b", "y" etc (understand it's just a quick mock-up).

 

When smaller which I think is going to be far more typical usage for example on the Trakt page, the thicker one looks better in my opinion. I've butchered it a bit as I don't have vectors, but it's the thicker version from your previous post. Could even possibly be a bit thicker (say as think as KODI).

 

 

 

While others typically show it bigger like below, I think above is more realistic. It's more a visual size thing than actual letter height etc.

Edited April 8, 2015 by cshaun

[cshaun 31]

Let me jump into that discussion, emby, Emby or EMBY?

 

If you ask me what the right capitalization is when referring to it in a sentence, it's not really a discussion it's Emby (capital E, lower case mby) it's a name, 

 

But when it comes down to what should be used in a logo (lower case or capital), It's a different story.

And the simple truth about it is, that is doesn't matter! it's what you like the most.

It's about 1. what you like the most 2.What seperates you the most from others. 3.what you think Emby stands for.

 

whilst older compagnies like Microsoft or Google have upper case.

brands like facebook or twitter have lower case.

Thinking about the psychologie behind it is useless. they just thought it looked better and distinguised them the most.

And there is no one thinking, heeee! shouldnt facebook be with a capital F. Cause when referring to it in a sentence they use Facebook (with a capital F)

 

So then when looking at KODI, PLEX Xbmc Infuce VLC, Lowercase will set you apart the most.

And there is absolutely no rule that says you can't!

Added bonus: when putting .media behind it lowercase looks a bit better then Emby.media. (but that might just be my oppinion.)

 

And just for last when referring to it in a sentence as EMBY! YOU DON'T NEED TO SHOUT, nor do you need to use higher cassings for it to stand out in a sentence,

Emby is a name recognizible enough to stand out in sentence without it.

 

Agree with this. Being a name capital E, when every mentioning in text/writing.

Logo obviously doesn't matter and agree lowercase just seems to look better with the other letters being so round. (Unless all capital in the logo.)

[josephasmith1 3]

In that comparison image, it is the largest icon/name of the group and still completely illegible on mobile.

[Angelblue05 4132]

I had some spare time to make two quick ad banner mockups. I went with two different directions, one more simplistic to go with the vibe. One more dynamic to go with the vibrant color. Just having fun, hope you like it! 

 

 

Edited April 9, 2015 by Angelblue05

[aspdend 177]

I had some spare time to make two quick ad banner mockups. I went with two different directions, one more simplistic to go with the vibe. One more dynamic to go with the vibrant color. Just having fun, hope you like it! 

 

 

I do still like this logo idea - I think the green on grey looks very effective - I like the purple, although with the black box it looks a bit harsh to my eyes...

[Angelblue05 4132]

I do still like this logo idea - I think the green on grey looks very effective - I like the purple, although with the black box it looks a bit harsh to my eyes...

Haha, ok. Is this better?  It looks better. Basically, just use the lighter version only. Inspired by fractal geometry.

 

 

32*32 and 16*16, still readable:

 

 

The font does not become too thin when shrunk. No chance of misreading it, by having a logo+name instead of merging the two. Emby, simple. Fresh, young, vibrant.

Edited April 9, 2015 by Angelblue05

[jedninjaro 39]

While your thicker one looks a little odd in your mock-up (probably just used to the thinner one) or maybe the rounded edges on "b", "y" etc (understand it's just a quick mock-up).

 

When smaller which I think is going to be far more typical usage for example on the Trakt page, the thicker one looks better in my opinion. I've butchered it a bit as I don't have vectors, but it's the thicker version from your previous post. Could even possibly be a bit thicker (say as think as KODI).

 

 

 

I made another mockup to adress the tickness issue.

and foung the issue with the ticker mockup version i made

1 and 6 are the normal thickness

2 is a little thicker (1 and 2 are from your mockup for comparison.)

3 is even slightly ticker

4 is the same tickness as kodi

5, en here comes the trick is thinner then kodi, but more adjusted to spacing.

i adjusted the spacing already from 1 to 4, but apperently not enough to keep the same look as 1.

so the don't grow in height only in thickness and spacing. and the spacing was the issue. (in my opinion)

 

 

 

 

As for the other problems adressed.

Making it emby green makes it easier for the website, keeping its original colour, and not forcing a redesign.

and yes it's also slanted, but that makes for a poor comparrison in my opinion. i can put it straight but then someone will shout internet explorer.

so i'm geussing blue is my biggest enemy in this one.

I still like the fact that is simple in almost it's purest form, without trying to tell just one side of the story.

it just powers up all your media.

 

but for now ill let this logo rest. unless request are made, or if en when i made an adjustment that i think is worth posting.

we know it can be made thicker, or an other colour, but the concept stays the same,if spacing adjusted accordingly

just a quick mockup above.