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dprovencher
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It would really be great if I could forbid users to select other quality settings than "auto", or just silently ignore the quality they set.  The problem is the transcode, I don't want to transcode anything, except if necessary for the device, etc. so always direct play if possible.

 

Thank you,

visproduction
Posted

DP,

I believe this is already true.  If something transcodes, then your end user's system is not signaling through that it can play directly.  This can be either a bandwidth, user hardware, software, cable connection, Wifi, or some other incompatibility that causes transcoding to start.  If a users system can play directly and everything in between works correctly and no network issues or compatibility with TV Apps, browser or system OS and device drivers, then direct play can work.  Often there is something in the delivery path that has an issue and transcoding starts.    Is that what you are asking?  Direct play already works when it's possible.

dprovencher
Posted

If I select "360p" in quality setting when playing something, this triggers transcode.  I want to disable this exact scenario, either disable selecting something other than "auto" or disregard what the user selects completely.

Posted

So, if a user's connection cannot support the bitrate of the item, you just want playback to either fail or stutter horribly with no recourse for the user?

dprovencher
Posted (edited)

Yes.  This should be a per user setting exactly like a thread I saw here while searching yesterday.  In the particular thread, what I need was about to happen and got changed to the auto quality hardcoded bitrate we now have, which is awesome btw, but the functionalities are not the same, and would be perfect together -> force auto quality, and set auto to custom bitrate, wonderful.

 

The thread I'm talking about : 

 

 

In my case, all my files have 1-2mbps with some going up to 5 and very rarely 9 (old grainy 1080p BD rips).  I have 99% x264 and 1% x265 nothing else.  I want old devices to be able to transcode x265 to be able to watch those at all, and when someone uses some mkv incompatible device like Edge, etc. so the "mandatory" transcodes, but never transcode or allow "user-selected" transcoding based on bitrate (quality).  A per-user setting would be perfect.  A "reset-to-auto" would be better but I guess that would mean client apps updating for you and much more complicated.

 

I have an old CPU, no GPU.  At the moment I can barely transcode at all (~130fps default cfr super/ultrafast), and anyway direct play is much nicer and easier to navigate than transcodes, with forwarding, resume , etc. on my machine at least.

 

Thank you,

Edited by dprovencher
Posted
17 minutes ago, dprovencher said:

Yes.  This should be a per user setting exactly like a thread I saw here while searching yesterday.  In the particular thread, what I need was about to happen and got changed to the auto quality hardcoded bitrate we now have, which is awesome btw, but the functionalities are not the same, and would be perfect together -> force auto quality, and set auto to custom bitrate, wonderful.

 

The thread I'm talking about : 

 

 

In my case, all my files have 1-2mbps with some going up to 5 and very rarely 9 (old grainy 1080p BD rips).  I have 99% x264 and 1% x265 nothing else.  I want old devices to be able to transcode x265 to be able to watch those at all, and when someone uses some mkv incompatible device like Edge, etc. so the "mandatory" transcodes, but never transcode or allow "user-selected" transcoding based on bitrate (quality).  A per-user setting would be perfect.  A "reset-to-auto" would be better but I guess that would mean client apps updating for you and much more complicated.

 

I have an old CPU, no GPU.  At the moment I can barely transcode at all (~130fps default cfr super/ultrafast), and anyway direct play is much nicer and easier to navigate than transcodes, with forwarding, resume , etc. on my machine at least.

 

Thank you,

Hi, have you explored user permissions on the server where you can already do this?

dprovencher
Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi, have you explored user permissions on the server where you can already do this?

Well I didn't see this option.  In the thread I linked above you said the option was dropped in favor of the "auto" bitrate.  Is it incoming already in beta?

 

This is what I have :

 

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This is what I need :

 

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Edited by dprovencher
Posted
53 minutes ago, dprovencher said:

Well I didn't see this option.  In the thread I linked above you said the option was dropped in favor of the "auto" bitrate.  Is it incoming already in beta?

 

This is what I have :

 

image.png.1ed813f581f168d68caf6214b9f3398e.png

 

This is what I need :

 

image.png.3e38c8802c55c94a55564a2c291e7e90.png

OK right that isn't there anymore, but you have two choices that can still help. You can set the default auto quality which will be used as long as they don't touch the client-side option.

Then as a last resort, you can cut off all video transcoding if absolutely necessary.

dprovencher
Posted
56 minutes ago, Luke said:

OK right that isn't there anymore, but you have two choices that can still help. You can set the default auto quality which will be used as long as they don't touch the client-side option.

Then as a last resort, you can cut off all video transcoding if absolutely necessary.

Thanks Luke, I did know about those 2 options.  What I would like is a middle-ground option, to force "auto" quality so the bitrate I set in "default auto quality" is used , or bring back the option in the screenshot above, that would be exactly what I need.

So keep the absolutely necessary transcoding activated but disable or ignore the quality setting (max bitrate) on the client.

Thanks,

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