nojaha 4 Posted March 8 Posted March 8 Hi everyone, I’m running into an issue where a drive spins up specifically when I access the details page of a movie (and other media for that matter). I want to browse my library without it triggering drive spin-ups. To try and achieve this, I have configured the following: Disabled: "Save artwork into media folders" (for all libraries). Disabled: "Keep a cached copy of images in the server's metadata folder" (for all libraries)(Assuming this wasn't needed since I'm not saving images to media folders and everything is on the same machine). Enabled: "Download images in advance" (for all libraries). My media drives only contain the .mkv and the .nfo files. Despite these settings, certain movies trigger a drive spin-up when viewed. When this happens, I see the following in the Emby server log: 2026-03-08 19:26:30.113 Info ProviderManager: Saving image to /config/metadata/people/c/Corey Parker-tmdb-111902/folder.jpg At the same moment, my unRAID syslog shows the drive being accessed, which is just a standard SMART read on drive spin-up: Mar 8 19:26:30 skynetstreaming emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdi If Emby is saving the "People" image to the internal /config/metadata folder, why is the media drive (where the .mkv lives) being spun up? I would expect the metadata folder activity to stay on my appdata/cache SSD drive. I've attached my full Emby server log for reference. Any insights into why these specific metadata saves are probing the storage array would be greatly appreciated! For context, this is what I'm running: ASUS NUC 13 Pro (1315U) unRAID 7.2.4 Emby 4.9.3.0 Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME SSD for all Docker appdata, and Emby metadata WD Red Plus drives for all the media itself (in a QNAP TL-D800C enclosure) embyserver.txt
nojaha 4 Posted March 8 Author Posted March 8 Writing this post actually got me thinking. I realized I also have "NFO" enabled under Metadata Savers. Could it be that Emby is attempting to update the .nfo file immediately after saving a "People" image to the internal metadata folder? Even if the .nfo already references the image, perhaps the act of downloading a previously missing image triggers a file update (like a timestamp or a metadata status change). If this is the case, could I solve this by either: The "Bulk Sync" approach: If I run a manual library refresh using the "Search for missing metadata" mode, will this effectively find all missing images and update the .nfo files in one go? My hope is to get the "writing" out of the way all at once so that daily browsing remains read-only. The "Manual Toggle" approach: Would it be better to keep the NFO Metadata Saver disabled for daily use, and then only enable it once a month (or after adding new media) to run a "Search for missing metadata" scan? This would keep the drives spun down while browsing, while still giving me the .nfo backups I want. Does anyone else with a "spun-down" array use a similar workflow, or is there a setting I’m missing that prevents these incidental .nfo writes during browsing?
Luke 42168 Posted Thursday at 06:53 PM Posted Thursday at 06:53 PM HI, if you can enable debug server logging temporarily and repeat the test, then that might help us isolate this. Also in nfo plugin settings, if you disable the option to save image paths in nfo files, then that might help reduce some disk access.
nojaha 4 Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago Hi Luke, Apologies for the late reply, as I didn't have access to the server. I've attached the server log with debug logging enabled, and this time the spin up happened at 17:59:16 in unRAID. In the log I would guess you'd need to look at 17:59:16.109 when it starts fetching the movie that I clicked on, but I could be mistaken. Please let me know if there's anything else I can provide embyserver_with_debug_logging.txt
Luke 42168 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It's hard to say. I don't see anything obvious. What are the contents of the movie folder?
nojaha 4 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Just the .mkv file itself, and the related .nfo file. The weird thing is, is that I went through all the libraries and refreshed the metadata with a "Search for missing metadata" scan. But apparently it still seems to want to get the latest metadata online. Or they may actually be newer metadata out there, since I updated a week or so ago. If I disable the "Metadata Savers" for NFO then it naturally doesn't happen anymore. Would be great if I didn't have to disable it, but the solution for now seems to be to disable it, and then enable it for the library that I'm adding media to before adding and scanning.
Luke 42168 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Quote The weird thing is, is that I went through all the libraries and refreshed the metadata with a "Search for missing metadata" scan. But apparently it still seems to want to get the latest metadata online. Well that's what refresh metadata does. If you don't want any internet metadata then use the library options to disable it.
Luke 42168 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Quote If I disable the "Metadata Savers" for NFO then it naturally doesn't happen anymore. this is not true. whether you enable nfo saving or not has no bearing on whether refreshing metadata will use the internet.
nojaha 4 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago No, sorry, I meant that when I disable the NFO saving, it stops the drives from spinning up. It of course still refreshes the metadata.
nojaha 4 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago I was just hoping that if the NFO file already had the latest metadata, and that there technically weren't any new metadata online, then it wouldn't try and fetch it again, thereby trying to save the new metadata to the NFO file as well, resulting in the drive spinning up. I guess I wasn't aware of it always pulling the latest metadata whenever you visit a details page.
Luke 42168 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Quote and that there technically weren't any new metadata online, then it wouldn't try and fetch it again How would it know until it fetches it?
Luke 42168 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, nojaha said: I guess I wasn't aware of it always pulling the latest metadata whenever you visit a details page. No, this isn't true. Whatever is spinning up the drives is something else.
nojaha 4 Posted 47 minutes ago Author Posted 47 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, Luke said: How would it know until it fetches it? Again, sorry I'm not being very clear. What I specifically meant was, fetches it / checks for newer metadata, but doesn't necessarily save it if the metadata isn't newer. 16 minutes ago, Luke said: No, this isn't true. Whatever is spinning up the drives is something else. You're probably right, as it doesn't seem to happen consistently with every details page I just wish I knew what it was. The only thing happening in the log when it does spin up a drive is the saving of the metdata. All I can say is, that if I disable the NFO saving, it doesn't happen anymore.
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