Confirmation needed - TV - internal app (emby) won't passthrough TrueHD

[gator99 5]

After fighting with this for a while I think I have searched enough and would just like a confirmation on what I have read on this forum and other (AVS etc).

A while ago changed from a projector  to a 98" TV (TCL 98Q672G) and like the simplicity of the setup and previously had used a shield 2017 for everything.

But discovered that with the TV's Emby app could not get Atmos to play - so after cable upgrades and a new AVR with 2.1 eArc (Onkyo RZ-30) - still couldn't get Atmos from tv to receiver - though shield does work, server says that it is "Direct Play" for audio (TrueHD 7.1) and video for both TV and Shield.

So I was under the impression that with 2.1 HDMI (cables, TV HDMI and receiver) that eArc would pass Atmos (passthrough setup on TV etc).

Guess I was ill informed. - so thought I would get confirmation and accept that if I want Atmos from Emby that I have to use the Shield - which I really wanted to get away from.

Thanks in Advance.

[ebr 16168]

Hi.  Atmos isn't your problem. The issue is the TV probably doesn't support the underlying format of TrueHD - especially in 7.1.  A DD+ track with Atmos will probably work just fine.

 

[gator99 5]

9 minutes ago, ebr said:

Hi.  Atmos isn't your problem. The issue is the TV probably doesn't support the underlying format of TrueHD - especially in 7.1.  A DD+ track with Atmos will probably work just fine.

 

thanks, sorry meant to say that streaming serivces with DD+ Atmos work,  so my understanding of passthrough on the TV is incorrect then and the TV will not pass the TrueHD 7.1 Atmos track through eArc to the Receiver - if that is the case I guess nothing I can do.

Thanks again, just trying to make sure I am ruling out everything before I give up on the TV's internal app - everything else on TV to receiver works great.

[Neminem 1515]

With Tdarr or handbreak you can downscale 7.1 to 5.1 and leave the old audio stream as is.

Creating a new 5.1 to be used.

Then you can chose 5.1 when you need to.

[gator99 5]

2 minutes ago, Neminem said:

With Tdarr or handbreak you can downscale 7.1 to 5.1 and leave the old audio stream as is.

Creating a new 5.1 to be used.

Then you can chose 5.1 when you need to.

Thank you for the reply, I have both 7.1 and 5.1 streams so I can switch between 2, just would love the Atmos.

Thanks again for the info.

[Sammy 790]

7 hours ago, Neminem said:

With Tdarr or handbreak you can downscale 7.1 to 5.1 and leave the old audio stream as is.

Creating a new 5.1 to be used.

Then you can chose 5.1 when you need to.

Tdarr is a new one on me. Is it better than handbrake (which I haven't had to use in years BTW)?

Edited Saturday at 11:03 PM by Sammy

[Sammy 790]

Atmos is just a height channel. My Denon will add height to a stream without it.

[justinrh 259]

Connect the Shield to the sound bar/receiver and use its pass thru to get the video to the TV.

[Luke 42077]

@gator99has this helped?

[gator99 5]

11 hours ago, Luke said:

@gator99has this helped?

Luke it has EBR, confirmed that the internal apps cannot pass true hd, though they do pas DTS 6.1 MA

[Luke 42077]

14 hours ago, gator99 said:

Luke it has EBR, confirmed that the internal apps cannot pass true hd, though they do pas DTS 6.1 MA

Hi, no that's not what he said:

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The issue is the TV probably doesn't support the underlying format of TrueHD

 

[gator99 5]

Thanks for the clarification 

[ebr 16168]

Yeah, I hypothesized that but you'll need to confirm if that is actually the case.  I think it probably is because, at this time, I think only the LG OLEDs support passing TrueHD via eARC.