Plugin: AutoTag

[crusher11 1112]

Question about the scheduler.

Say I have the Trakt trending movies tagged as Spotlight, but then I schedule AutoTag to tag my horror movies as Spotlight in October and my noir movies as Spotlight in November. Will the Trending movies still get mixed in with that? It seems like they will. Might make sense to have a “remove all other rules” option or something? A way to have a fallback if no schedule is applied, but not have that fallback get mixed in with a scheduled list.

[soderlund91 60]

9 hours ago, crusher11 said:

Well, for example, all TV shows where the title contains "law & order."

Tagging by genre, director, actor, etc. as well. It's November? Spotlight film noir. David Lynch died? Spotlight films he directed. Robert Redford died? Spotlight films he starred in.

Release date, too. Films with the genre "film noir" released between 1940 and 1950, to filter out neo-noir. Films celebrating their 100th anniversary this year. 

There's so much metadata already on the server, it just feels silly that I have to manually curate lists elsewhere. I do love the Trakt integration for Trending and the like though. 

Can you clarify how I get an API key? 

 

You can already Spotlight a collection, but if I could use this to dynamically tag its contents I don't need to go reconfigure the Spotlight once I'm done spotlighting that collection and want to go back to tags. 

API key: At the top of the plugin-page you have a "Help" button, there you have instructions and links how to obtain the API key. 
For Trakt, just give it a name and leave everything blank. For the redirect you have to put something in, just type "http://localhost"

It would be awesome to have all this functionality, but it's a lot of work and time that i dont have. And purpose of this plugin is to use list from MDBList that have all of these options avalibale. Create your own list at MDBList (there is tons of filtering options!) and just put the URL into AutoTag. 
 

4 hours ago, crusher11 said:

Question about the scheduler.

Say I have the Trakt trending movies tagged as Spotlight, but then I schedule AutoTag to tag my horror movies as Spotlight in October and my noir movies as Spotlight in November. Will the Trending movies still get mixed in with that? It seems like they will. Might make sense to have a “remove all other rules” option or something? A way to have a fallback if no schedule is applied, but not have that fallback get mixed in with a scheduled list.

If you have two entries using the same name/tag, they will all get the same tag end get "mixed". 
If you give two entries same collection name, i'm not sure what will happen to be honest.. 

I see your point, and it's not a bad idéa. Maybe somwhere down the road i'll look into it. At the moment there are more urgent things to do.
 

At the end you could quite easily set this up yourself if you put a little effort into sorting the tags/scheduels. 
For ex have a "standard" spotligt active during jan-sep and nov-dec. During october you have your "horror spotlight". 
And if David Lych dies, create a new spotligt with his movies, and just disable the standard spotligt. 

I might look into the option to separate the name of each entry and the tag-name for better overview in the UI. This will enable to have two separate entries that both tag "spotligt" but in the UI you could name them "horror spotlight" and standard spotlight". 

[crusher11 1112]

3 minutes ago, soderlund91 said:

It would be awesome to have all this functionality, but it's a lot of work and time that i dont have. And purpose of this plugin is to use list from MDBList that have all of these options avalibale. Create your own list at MDBList (there is tons of filtering options!) and just put the URL into AutoTag. 

Well, from what was said upthread it sounds like MDBList costs a bit of money, and then the time to go through and curate it all...which, as I said, seems pointless when Emby already has the information I'm trying to use. I have a lot of my own subgenres that I've added, on top of everything Emby has already scraped, and things like the date media was added to my server are obviously not going to be available to an external source.

6 minutes ago, soderlund91 said:

At the end you could quite easily set this up yourself if you put a little effort into sorting the tags/scheduels. 
For ex have a "standard" spotligt active during jan-sep and nov-dec. During october you have your "horror spotlight". 

If the horror spotlight is all I have for scheduled, sure, but once you start adding more scheduled spotlights the scheduling for the fallback becomes pretty unwieldy. Oscars spotlight early in the year, maybe birthday spotlights for some of my favorite actors and directors, horror in October, noir in November, Christmas/New Year's...

But then, if there's no way to tag things using the Emby metadata, I'm not sure how many of those are even feasible.

9 minutes ago, soderlund91 said:

I might look into the option to separate the name of each entry and the tag-name for better overview in the UI.

Yeah, I was going to bring that up too. Everything is just labeled as “spotlight” at the moment so it's basically impossible to know what's what.

[seanbuff 1325]

1 hour ago, crusher11 said:

Well, from what was said upthread it sounds like MDBList costs a bit of money

MDBList is free if all you use are the public lists, which there are many great and well maintained lists for almost anything I've ever searched for



Once you found a list you like, all you need is the public URL to pop into AutoTag.

[soderlund91 60]

1 hour ago, crusher11 said:

Well, from what was said upthread it sounds like MDBList costs a bit of money, and then the time to go through and curate it all...which, as I said, seems pointless when Emby already has the information I'm trying to use. I have a lot of my own subgenres that I've added, on top of everything Emby has already scraped, and things like the date media was added to my server are obviously not going to be available to an external source.

 

Honestly its pretty cheap in my opinion. 1 or 2 euros/month and you get a lot of possibilities! 
https://docs.mdblist.com/docs/supporter

1 hour ago, crusher11 said:

If the horror spotlight is all I have for scheduled, sure, but once you start adding more scheduled spotlights the scheduling for the fallback becomes pretty unwieldy. Oscars spotlight early in the year, maybe birthday spotlights for some of my favorite actors and directors, horror in October, noir in November, Christmas/New Year's...

But then, if there's no way to tag things using the Emby metadata, I'm not sure how many of those are even feasible.

 

Yeah, i see your point. Maybe you can look into the smart playlist plugin? That will create a collection using a lot of the available metadata. For the next release of AutoTag i have created an option to use already excisting collection as a source, so you can then easily tag the items from a collection. 

1 hour ago, crusher11 said:

Yeah, I was going to bring that up too. Everything is just labeled as “spotlight” at the moment so it's basically impossible to know what's what.

Already ready for the next release. Expect to release/comple it by tomorrow. 

 

[soderlund91 60]

New release -  Version 2.3.0.0.
Download .dll here: https://github.com/soderlund91/AutoTag/releases/tag/v2.3.0.0
Also attached to this post
(Added a .NET 6 version for MacOS/Legacy support)

New Features

• Collection poster and description: You can now add a cover photo/poster and description for collections directly from the plugin.
• Sources: You can now create tags (and collections) based on local information such as:
  -Existing collections and playlists
  -Local media information (4K, Dolby Atmos, etc.)
• Update avalibale: Added a clickable text/title that is visible when there is a new release of the plugin.

Improvements

• Separation of tag and name: You can now set a custom name for each entry. For example, if you want two entries that both apply the tag "spotlight", you can now visually separate them as "Summer spotlight" and "Winter spotlight", while both still set the "spotlight" tag.

Fixes

 

• Overall bug fixes
• Theme: Better support for light theme

 

Note
If you don't see the changes after updating, please refresh your page and clear the browser cache.

AutoTag.dll AutoTag_NET6_MacOS.dll

[crusher11 1112]

15 hours ago, soderlund91 said:

Yeah, i see your point. Maybe you can look into the smart playlist plugin?

I see two, both of them apparently abandoned. And it would require a redundant collection being created; bypassing that was a big part of the appeal of your plugin.

 

15 hours ago, soderlund91 said:

Honestly its pretty cheap in my opinion. 1 or 2 euros/month and you get a lot of possibilities! 
https://docs.mdblist.com/docs/supporter

That's still one or two euros more than nothing, and having to create everything in MDBList. Or Trakt, were I to use that. Whereas Emby already knows which movies I own, what language they're in, when they were released, how long they are, who directed them, who starred in them, what genres they are, what their RT and IMDB community ratings are...

I mean, a lot of this is just that from hearing about your plugin I expected it to be one thing and it turns out to be a different thing, and as I said I'm still getting some decent mileage out of the Trakt lists for Trending or Best Picture nominees or whatever. It's just frustrating to have come in expecting to be able to quickly whip up a film noir tag, or a horror tag, or a directed-by-David-Lynch tag, or whatever else, without having to recreate my database on another platform. With the subgenres I've been manually adding I could even do things like locked-door murder mysteries the week the new Knives Out drops, things like that.

[crusher11 1112]

I just updated to the latest version. I had two spotlight tags set up: one using the Trakt trending list, which I had disabled, and one scheduled for Jan 20-Mar 15 with Best Picture winners, which I had enabled. The update merged them into the same scheduled tag with two source lists.

Looks like it took the empty blacklist from the Oscars list, rather than the filled-out blacklist from the Trending list, so I have to do that all over again...

Edited 5 hours ago by crusher11

[shinedou 6]

9 minutes ago, crusher11 said:

I see two, both of them apparently abandoned. And it would require a redundant collection being created; bypassing that was a big part of the appeal of your plugin.

Here is the dll for the most recent smart playlist plugin that works with the current stable release of Emby. It may work with beta but I'm not sure.

 

[Neminem 1543]

3 hours ago, crusher11 said:

I mean, a lot of this is just that from hearing about your plugin I expected it to be one thing and it turns out to be a different thing, and as I said I'm still getting some decent mileage out of the Trakt lists for Trending or Best Picture nominees or whatever. It's just frustrating to have come in expecting to be able to quickly whip up a film noir tag, or a horror tag, or a directed-by-David-Lynch tag, or whatever else, without having to recreate my database on another platform. With the subgenres I've been manually adding I could even do things like locked-door murder mysteries the week the new Knives Out drops, things like that.

Guess you where mislead, and you expect to much.

From someone using there sparetime making something great for us willing to use the time using it.

Have you no respect for people around you, trying to help the community.

Anyways.... Thank you @soderlund91for creating this 9'th wonder.

Edited 1 hour ago by Neminem

[rbjtech 5296]

3 hours ago, crusher11 said:

I just updated to the latest version. I had two spotlight tags set up: one using the Trakt trending list, which I had disabled, and one scheduled for Jan 20-Mar 15 with Best Picture winners, which I had enabled. The update merged them into the same scheduled tag with two source lists.

Looks like it took the empty blacklist from the Oscars list, rather than the filled-out blacklist from the Trending list, so I have to do that all over again...

did you pick your username or was it chosen for you ?  just asking for a friend .. 

[soderlund91 60]

3 hours ago, crusher11 said:

I see two, both of them apparently abandoned. And it would require a redundant collection being created; bypassing that was a big part of the appeal of your plugin.

 

That's still one or two euros more than nothing, and having to create everything in MDBList. Or Trakt, were I to use that. Whereas Emby already knows which movies I own, what language they're in, when they were released, how long they are, who directed them, who starred in them, what genres they are, what their RT and IMDB community ratings are...

I mean, a lot of this is just that from hearing about your plugin I expected it to be one thing and it turns out to be a different thing, and as I said I'm still getting some decent mileage out of the Trakt lists for Trending or Best Picture nominees or whatever. It's just frustrating to have come in expecting to be able to quickly whip up a film noir tag, or a horror tag, or a directed-by-David-Lynch tag, or whatever else, without having to recreate my database on another platform. With the subgenres I've been manually adding I could even do things like locked-door murder mysteries the week the new Knives Out drops, things like that.

Sorry if you have been mislead, not sure what you expected. My description of this plugin has always been “create tags from external lists”.. 

What you want is achievable with paying a small amount of money (or free) for MDBList, and also with the help of the smart playlist plugin. 
 

Rumor has it that the Emby devs are working on a native smart playlist. 

3 hours ago, crusher11 said:

I just updated to the latest version. I had two spotlight tags set up: one using the Trakt trending list, which I had disabled, and one scheduled for Jan 20-Mar 15 with Best Picture winners, which I had enabled. The update merged them into the same scheduled tag with two source lists.

Looks like it took the empty blacklist from the Oscars list, rather than the filled-out blacklist from the Trending list, so I have to do that all over again...

That’s a shame.. Sorry about that, I didn’t really test that scenario before releasing.
Did you make a backup before updating? (Always recommended to do). Then you could open that in a text editor and you will have all the info there

[crusher11 1112]

3 minutes ago, soderlund91 said:

Sorry if you have been mislead, not sure what you expected. My description of this plugin has always been “create tags from external lists”.. 

 

I don't think anyone was being misleading, I just saw it mentioned a lot in the context of “lets you do lots of cool stuff with the new home page” and thus thought of it in terms of the sorts of things I, personally, wanted to do with my homepage. And I guess most people on here already use Trakt, so it's less of a redundancy there (do I need to be a VIP on Trakt to create lists? I can't see a way to do it).

I've also spent a lot of time with the VirtualTV plugin, setting up channels, and that allows you to do more things with the Emby metadata rather than relying on external sources, so I just kinda came in with those expectations I guess. Not anybody's fault.

[Neminem 1543]

@crusher11So you did not read anything in the first post about the plugin

tbh typical you.

 

[crusher11 1112]

34 minutes ago, Neminem said:

@crusher11So you did not read anything in the first post about the plugin

Not before I'd entered this thread, no, but that seems entirely reasonable to me. I'd heard about this plugin a lot over in the various home screen threads before ever actually coming over here to dig into it.